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04.21.2009 - 20:26 | jedimetroidfirst?
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04.22.2009 - 10:04 | Holzwarth
From my point of view... This movie has the same flaws of Advent Children:
The producers followed the line:
- Get a great franchise with hardcore fans
- Give it a few good action scenes
- Don't bother with the plot... The fans will pay for the movie anyway
I like TMNT and FFAC... But we all knew they could've been WAY BETTER!!!
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04.22.2009 - 17:46 | Josephes
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03.26.2010 - 18:22 | Ian000450
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09.14.2009 - 00:28 | FalconjudgeHow could Advent Children been better?
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07.16.2010 - 05:28 | SqueejeeYou know, I feel like I was the only person who actually followed FFAC's plot the first time around. The plot itself is actually explained in depth (as much of a fail plot as it was), though the characters doing it have no depth whatsoever.
Where it really lacked was in character development and good scene tension - seriously, we're never given reason to doubt for a moment that Cloud > Sephiroth, so you don't really get on the edge of your seat for the fight.
This was also a key problem in TNMT, where the scale of the action scenes and the acrobatics of the turtles makes you lose touch with their struggle. They never really seem to be in peril, so you never get fully invested into any of the fights. Add to that the problem of a lack of character definition (and motivation) and the whole fight between Raph / Leo seems pointless and indulgent.
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10.11.2010 - 19:21 | makutateridax20that and it probably says fuck it to TMNT 3 i know i would :snicker:
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04.23.2009 - 15:40 | KiNGSHiNiGaMi777
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04.02.2010 - 17:35 | megamonmonit makes more sence if uve watched the 2003 movie
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it was a spin-off of the new show. It makes almost perfect sense if you watched it. For example, the girl leading the foot clan was Shredder's adoptive daughter. SHe started out a hero, helping the turtles, but then the turtles killed Shredder (who was actually an alien criminal), which was when she went apeshit and became the leader of the clan
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[quote]no point in banning the second account..
I didn't say anything offensive save a sarcastic remark about the hypocrisy of you calling me a name and then banning me for name calling. I even typed a well thought out critique of the critic with no swearing or names, but you chose to remove that. I simply wrote out that there are several factual errors in this video, and it is probably the weakest in his library to date.
I also stated that the top 11's aren't typically positive or negative reviews, merely nostalgic lists. Also the original cartoon became so bad that by the end, no would air the last four episodes.
Why would you delete that post and not the one that has caused so much debate.
I'm fine with it, go ahead and delete that one it doesn't communicate what I wanted to get across anyhow. Or leave it up, and live with the double standard you've
created.
Respect Mako, peace[/quote]
Doug has some serious reviews, and uses humor to enhance them. i don't think going for just humor is a positive step
that's all i'm trying to say
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04.28.2009 - 11:09 | Bryguy87
The sephirots are back to take over the globe and punish the people who deserve to die afther what they have done to this planet and miss used the devils power and killed beings and coverd up ufos and stole alien technology. they are going to burn 4 all eternety. the gods have sendt them to make justice to this world
and kill the goverment who made the human race a slave
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You complain that there's no fighting, and when you get the coolest fighting scenes ever, you criticize it as a video game.
I can understand that it was a joke for the video and that in the end you said that the movie was good, but I mean it's still a little awkward :s
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07.24.2009 - 19:19 | Bokkodo
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04.21.2009 - 20:26 | Dr.Mario12
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04.21.2009 - 20:27 | BlackFrenchy25
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04.21.2009 - 20:33 | jedimetroidyour the nostalgia critic, not the angry video game nerd you stupid fuck
you don't have to hate everything, not everything from the past is bad, how about a positive review for once
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04.21.2009 - 21:06 | Hinta0002
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04.21.2009 - 21:29 | Michaud
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04.23.2009 - 06:55 | adrasl300Youre very ban-happy you know.....
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04.23.2009 - 07:28 | Michaud
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04.22.2009 - 00:18 | DarkTom
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Douglas Walker's Character is called the Nostalgia Critic for a reason. He reviews good or bad movies and give a negetive comment. Besides it's a satire, so don't take things seriously. If ya wanna see reviews on good movies I suggest you watch the Bum Reviews on this site.
Plus, Hinta0002 is right. I watch NC's reviews becuase it's funny and creative IMO. So if ya don't like it, SWITCH TO A DIFFERENT WEBSITE. It's that Easy?
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04.22.2009 - 04:19 | DigitalDeadbeat
Hey Jedimetroid
Strange, i dont see reviewer anywhere in his title. i see critic, and allow me to post from dictionary.com the meaning of the word critic:
crit?ic
Pronunciation [krit-ik] –noun
1. [b]a person who judges, evaluates, or criticizes: a poor critic of men.[/b]
2. a person who judges, evaluates, or analyzes literary or artistic works, dramatic or musical performances, or the like, esp. for a newspaper or magazine.
3. [b]a person who tends too readily to make captious, trivial, or harsh judgments; faultfinder.[/b]
and while yes, it says that they also review performances, please note, two of the 3 definitions say that its someone who finds fault.
A critic is someone who generally doesn't give something a good review.
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Did you know that critic derives from some sorta greek word that actually means pointing out good things about a subject.......its true!
Or more like evaluating something. Not just pointing out bad things......
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04.22.2009 - 05:10 | AngelicDiabloIf you do not like it, there is an easy solution. You said that you wanted a "positive review for once," well here is your chance to make it happen. Why not make one yourself and put it on YouTube for all of us to comment on? Considering that you believe that a man who has his own very successful website is a "stupid fuck," you must be a very brilliant mind...capable of producing all sorts of wonderful things! Please sir, show us how great you are and make a "positive review for once." However, I do understand that you may decline my request. If that is the case though, I would kindly like to suggest you keep your stupid comments to yourself.
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I had never read that third definition of critic. I think of critics as being judges of effort or product in the context of expectations, not a wildly vehement thrasher of all that one might enjoy. This one bothered me because unlike Doug's past reviews like say, The Animated Titanic or Street Fighter, this movie wasn't bad. Doug has comedic talent but he really stretched himself to find things wrong with this movie and made a lot of mistakes talking about the plot as it does make reference to the past movies at the end so it is a sequel and not just a reboot.
I called him a "stupid fuck" because that, or some variation of those words or similar words is what he calls things when he's being critical. I suppose there just isn't room in this site for more than 17 or so critics. Later, and Doug, I forgive you.
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while i'm at writing all these near pointless comments
Ralph gets in fight with Leo in the second movie, and in the original Cartoon he is often the voice of dissent in the group. He has a longtime feud with Leonardo that wasn't fully explored until this film, and thanks to Leo's horrible logic (I'll fully concede that one), still isn't fully explored.
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04.22.2009 - 14:54 | dethf_ckThe movie was bad, I hate to break it you. I was falling asleep in the theater when I saw it. Just my opinion.
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04.23.2009 - 06:52 | adrasl300Dont "forgive him" its his thing! And besides he even tells you at the end of the vid that he thought it was a decent movie.
It was just that it suffered from this FF:Advent Children complex....
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the "i forgive you" was actually sarcasm, there is nothing to forgive
doug is awesome, he isn't so insecure as to need my forgiveness.. doesn't mean I agree with this review but I don't need to, I still enjoy some nostalgia critic when it's ripe
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04.22.2009 - 14:51 | dethf_ckHe doesn't hate everything and he has given at [i]least[/i] one good review.
Silly, silly, don't criticize what you don't understand.
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04.27.2009 - 03:00 | QuestionTheMajority
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08.22.2009 - 20:11 | TheGuyWithNoName
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09.29.2009 - 09:23 | Alan MassacreThat's why bum reviews is here, dipshit.
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04.21.2009 - 20:34 | gannopiez
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04.22.2009 - 04:43 | InvisibleBrunetteYeah, the ending kinda blew...
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04.22.2009 - 07:43 | tehceasarlike the ending to the first shrek movie but somehow even cheesier, yeah
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04.21.2009 - 20:34 | The Soda Jerk
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04.21.2009 - 20:34 | Lenneh
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04.21.2009 - 20:37 | imastavrosGeorge of the Jungle is responsible for over one deaths a year.
Amazing as usual.
Happy Birthday!
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04.21.2009 - 20:37 | flukielukieFantastic review NC really funny stuff. Keep it up for another year.
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04.21.2009 - 20:40 | empathy121
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This was actually one of the most positive reviews I've ever seen him give. He acknowledged that the action and CG were very good, he just felt that the plot wasn't very engaging. Which it wasn't.
In fact, something I've always liked about the Nostalgia Critic is his willingness to acknowledge when something has good parts.
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04.21.2009 - 22:25 | Shadow_Dinosaur
[color=navy]Not much explaination on where the turtles came from eh? Oo You have to have had some idea from olf cartoons to get that. Brief Indeed.
Great Review Doug! As Usual!
I still have to see this movie so I can't say whether or not I agree with your points. [/color]
Shadow the D-I-N-O-S-A-U-R B)
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Ok, when you bashed the late, legendary MAKO as the voice of Splinter, this review officially jumped the shark for me.
Sorry NC. I love your shtick, but this review was a waste of time. Some movies aren't that great, but are still not bad or absurd enough for snark fodder... and this is one of them.
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04.21.2009 - 20:50 | SpazzMaster
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04.21.2009 - 20:50 | angel85
I actually got this movie in a sale at comic-con a couple months ago. I thought it was pretty cool except for a couple things I couldn't quite mesh with continuity; like April's JOB. I guess I took it for granted since I watch the cartoon despite being in my early 20's, but why didn't they give Kurai a proper introduction? Not only do you have to be a turtles fan, but you need to have seen nearly every episode of the NEW cartoon to get everything.
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04.21.2009 - 20:51 | edjr1980
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04.21.2009 - 20:52 | ajCHICAGOlol GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TMNT is a embrassament to all ninja turtle fans evrywhere! :pinch:
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04.21.2009 - 20:53 | kittkitani have to say, i am not really a fan of the turtles, but i have noticed that this movie does follow the more recent TMNT cartoon
but that said, they should of made this movie so it could "stand alone" so some random person can watch it and by the end of it, actually understand who the turtles are.
BTW, love the MIB ref
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05.03.2009 - 19:35 | judgeholden
Very entertaining review, sir.
From a technical standpoint, the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles film is the best, in my opinion. No CGI effect can beat those Jim Henson costumes. (One thing I find ironic is that the first Ninja Turtles film, which had the best technical achievements of the four films, happened to have the lowest budget of them all.) Now, in terms of the darker themes like those in the original comics, this CGI film is about the closest we get to matching them.
That being said, all of the TMNT films have one common problem: they're not very good movies. The first one's decent, the second one's lame, the third one flat-out sucks, and this one's just okay, despite the flaws that the Nostalgia Critic points out.
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04.21.2009 - 20:55 | Jenx
Ok, I'm sorry but this was just a bit too much. Saying that the teenage mutant ninja turtles should never be more than the colorful and cheese 80s tv series is just...well it's just stupid. What "Oh you never had a storyline, how dare you have one now!"? What kind of an argument is that? I'm afraid I'll have to go with a previous poster and agree that you are NOT the Angry Video Game Nerd and you don't have to hate and nitpick everything you come across. It stops being funny and ends up being annoying.
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04.22.2009 - 05:30 | RolandTheHeadless
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Hey NC...Leave Splinter Alone.
he "was" voiced by MAKO (Uncle Iroh from Avatar: The Last Airbender)
i am saying this is because He Died in 2006 (TT-TT)
so i am not pleased about that joke...bad taste man
plus this movie was good...not every movie can be like Citizen Kain...
(plus not every one of your reviews have to be about bad movies)
other than that Fuck Up...Great Video
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I already have a crappy Ninja Turtles movie from my childhood that I have to defend... and that one involved Samurai's dancing in a nightclub and reenacting hockey fights! I don't need another non-sensical (though visually stunning) Ninja Turtles movie to argue over.
Great review, Critic.
p.s. Anybody else notice the Shredder helmet in the Turtles gallery of artifacts?
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04.21.2009 - 20:57 | Fiendly
i'm actually surprised at how good this movie is. i mean, it's still [i]bad[/i] and could easily have been a lot better, but i was under the assumption that it was nightmarishly bad, which i think we can all agree it's not. this episode appears to have been done as an answer to the many requests for it, and it still turned out pretty good
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Doug, I like your work and all...
But how DARE you insult the voice of Splinter in this! Do you know who that is?
That's MAKO, fool!
AKA Aku from Samurai Jack!
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Mako_(actor)
Plus this was one of his last roles! You could have a little bit more respect for the dead.
Otherwise, pretty good review there. But still..that is one thing that bugged me.
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04.21.2009 - 21:07 | Seijimei
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[quote=CMWaters]Doug, I like your work and all...
But how DARE you insult the voice of Splinter in this! Do you know who that is?
That's MAKO, fool!
AKA Aku from Samurai Jack!
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Mako_(actor)
Plus this was one of his last roles! You could have a little bit more respect for the dead.
Otherwise, pretty good review there. But still..that is one thing that bugged me.[/quote]
Bah! He was still a bad choice for the voice.
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[quote=CMWaters]Doug, I like your work and all...
But how DARE you insult the voice of Splinter in this! Do you know who that is?
That's MAKO, fool!
AKA Aku from Samurai Jack!
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Mako_(actor)
Plus this was one of his last roles! You could have a little bit more respect for the dead.
Otherwise, pretty good review there. But still..that is one thing that bugged me.[/quote]He doesn't know Mako at all, dummy
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04.21.2009 - 20:59 | EmuFan
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04.21.2009 - 21:09 | snarkatyou
Actually its not an Anime series, the 2003 version was the most well thought out of the cartoons and had a more american style then the most recent ones. (Back to the Sewers for example) Recently it's started to falter though, characterization and animation becoming second best to the toy sales and products they can get kids to buy thanks to the show.
..Uh yeah, sorry. I'll go away now. Just a TMNT fan here who had to pipe up. Sorry about that.
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04.21.2009 - 20:59 | iamnotincompliance
April O'Neill: Tomb Raider?
Eh, couldn't be worse than the original Tomb Raider.
After all, finding a giant talking turtle with mad sword skills in the middle of the jungle makes about as much sense as the crap Lara Croft does.
Smoothly sidestepping the fact I seem to be harping on exactly one point I don't really care about, that video left me in stitches... and horribly confused at the same time, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
Congratulations, good sir, you've done it again.
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04.21.2009 - 21:17 | Karma XNo. Just no.
Sorry, NC, but... this review fails. It fails on every conceivable level.
It's immediately apparent from the beginning that you had to try impossibly hard. Definitely too hard. Because it really isn't bad at all.
I mean, everything that you said about this film through the entire review was an enormously over reactionary nitpick to things that are either A. Not an actual problem with the movie whatsoever, or
B. Such an insignificantly minor nitpick turned over-the-top to the point where the credibility of the critisism itself suffers, making the review sound more like a bad attempt at an April Fools joke, or something.
There is only one minor flaw that the movie has in it's entirety, and that is that while the story was inherently good, it was not as fully fleshed out as it had the full potential to be.
The 13 monsters could have been more defined, and Max Winters could have benefited from an action scene and more of a personality.
Aside from that, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the film.
This is a movie that is more of an B minus student that could have been an A+ student if it worked a bit harder.
Every criticism and problem that you go to great lengths to dig out and embellish in this review is incredibly obvious, and therefore the whole thin sounds like a very poor, hamfisted attempt to try and keep your status quo of usual shtick instead of finding anything actually wrong with the film itself.
From the very beginning, when you went to the great lengths to chide the film for having a breif explanation when frankly, that was all it ever needed, set the standard for the ridiculous criticism that followed through to the very end.
In the end, you really just tried WAY too hard to rip on a film that was actually quite outstanding.
That effort was way too much, when i'm sure all this review is going to do is further alienate you from many of your fans.
I mean, it's starting to become obvious that with this routine, you could just as easily produce a video for any film.
It would be just as easy to ridicule Citizen Kane, Alfred Hitchcock's Psyco, E.T, The Color Purple, or even Shindler's List, by exaggerating every minuscule nitpick through the same means.
And while I'm not exactly comparing TMNT to the quality of any of those films, I could compare it to somethin like The Dark Knight, which also could be easily mocked by the same exaggeration shtick if you tried hard enough.
Sorry, but this is one of the most damaging reviews to your credibility that I fear will cause many fans of yours to lose respect for you.
It doesn't help however, that you already began burning that bridge long ago by also giving the same treatment to the other two wonderful Turtles films, which, you must not have know were "sacred ...
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04.21.2009 - 21:04 | jedimetroidyou said it all, perfect critique
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04.21.2009 - 21:30 | TheAgentK
Heh, ok guys. No need to get all SERIOUS BUSINESS up in here, but I agree in general. TMNT was not at all good review material to begin with, and very few of the criticisms were funny or even valid. You could tell Doug really had to stretch it.
They made such a huge exception to the "pre-2000" rule for this movie, you'd think it was the most godawful piece of crap ever printed on celluloid. While it had lots of flaws, it isn't anywhere near that bad. Save the next "nostalgic franchise reboot review" for something that REALLY deserves it.
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04.21.2009 - 21:33 | Michaud
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04.22.2009 - 02:24 | Manic MonkeyWhere is a newstalgia critic when you need one?
Anyway yeah it was funny but the movie seems good for what it was. :)
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04.22.2009 - 09:22 | DaisukeVulgar
That whole long-winded comment can be put down to this one quote
[quote=Karma X]Sorry, but this is one of the most damaging [b]reviews[/b] to your credibility
that I fear will cause many fans of yours to lose respect for you.[/quote]
He's a critic, not just a reviewer. He critiques things on their flaws, he only occasionally travels into the realm of 'normal reviewing' something, and obviously this wasn't one of those days.
If you go back and watch his original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles review he even says that they are classic movies, but watching and comparing them to today's movies, you'll be surprised that a lot of the details are rather, how should I put it…? Downright retarded? The Super Shredder's small screen time par examplé.
Now, the whole basis over him disliking the film holds the same merit as an adult who grew up on the original Star Wars series now watching the newer Star Wars movies. That person will either love Lucas for continuing the franchise of loath him for the same thing. Doug obviously disliked the route the Ninja Turtles have taken.
Saying that it was only 7 year olds that asked for this video is a harsh and unfounded stereotype. Perhaps people much like you also asked for it in the hopes that Doug would pull out another video like “Follow That Bird” whereby he’d try to be harsh to it but will ultimately fail due to his childhood memories. The same thing has happened to people like Yahtzee; people asked for Halo 3 and finally he cracked and gave it to them, along with his critique as to why it wasn’t as amazing as people believe it to be.
I will agree on one thing, and that is this review was a stretch for him to do, he didn’t watch the series so didn’t know this reboots back story. If he had watched the show I’m sure this video would have contained either a lot more criticisms and/or a better understanding of what the hell was going on.
Basically his love for the original series and their set of movies has made him unchanging in his attitude to what the TMNT are about.
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11.01.2009 - 08:53 | ladiesman217
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04.28.2009 - 09:02 | DaBuddhaI agree completely. The main thing that bugged me was the way he complained that as soon as new characters popped up, it wasn't explained who they were. It seems like if he watches a murder mystery, he wants whoever committed the crime to stand up, raise their hand and shout "I did it!" five minutes into the movie.
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08.17.2009 - 21:21 | gannopiez
wow...you take things too seriously and like this movie way too much. just because you think this movie was "actually quite outstanding," doesnt mean it was, it just means you liked it. oh, and if youre really gonna compare this movie to "Citizen Kane, Alfred Hitchcock's Psyco, E.T, The Color
Purple, or even Shindler's List," then you have problems. just calm down and get that stick out of your ass.
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Your actually comparing TMNT to The Dark Knight and called TMNT an outstanding film.
I got news for you
"The Dark Knight on rottentomatoes.com: 94%"
"TMNT on rottentometoes.com: 33%"
Take that you overanlysing whiner.
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11.01.2009 - 08:50 | ladiesman217
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um, I'm sorry, but it looks like you didn't see the beginning where he stated that this was purely from the massive amounts of people telling him to review it. :angry: And because he is a CRITIC, its his job to nitpick at small details. Did you not read the name "Nostalgia Critic?" He does two things: (1) Reviews old stuff (back when we were kids) and (2) Criticize them. If anything, blame it on the people that made him review it. Besides, to a lot of people, this was enjoyable. So start complaining AFTER you get an as successful sight as his.
And to be fair, for something that he did only because otherwise his e-mail would get flooded more, it was a pretty good review. :)
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01.07.2011 - 16:01 | mrcloudiesbestfriend
Just because you liked it doesn't mean everyone else has to agree its a good movie.
This is a review based on the NC's PERSONAL opinion on the film. Just like with anyone sometimes you'll agree and sometimes you wont.
So don't bitch someone out because they disagree with your viewpoint. Its idiotic and proves nothing.
I agree that TMNT and indeed the two first ones were all bad. Very bad...