Nostalgia Critic - Sailor Moon

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  • SpeedyEric
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    I guess you're FINALLY giving into the fans' request on reviewing Sailor Moon, huh? I'd like to be excited, but I haven't watched Sailor Moon.

    4:29- And people still complain about Hayden Christenson as Anakin Skywalker.

    5:38- Megaforce? You mean somewhere down the road, where gonna have a Sailor Moom/Power Rangers crossover?

    8:34- Don't forget that your car also had an Autobot logo on the trunk in "To Bolly Flee" during Terl' attack on your way to the Plothole.

    10:28- No offense to anyone from Japan or anyone interested in Japanesse culture, but you sure know how to make some weird s**t for the big media. Well, except stuff like Godzilla, which is awesome.
    I also didn't know she was 14 years of age, because of the statement I already gave above.

    16:03- No offense to Sailor Moon fans, but se's not the Wonder Woman, Spirit of Truth, type of super heroine.

    19:51- In speaking of which, Inspector Maggie Sawyer from the Superman animated series is also a lesbian. This wasn't told in the actuall show, but it was in the comics. We even see her lover make an no line cameo in an episode where Sawyer was in a hospital after an attack on the city.

    I tink it's reasons NC stated at the end shows why I'm not a big fan of anime. I agree that that it's unique and eye-catching, but most of the stories of this genre is a bit to weird to me, which may explain why I started to stop watching Pokemon when I started high school.
  • minnie3434
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    I understand why you don't like it, and why other people don't like it. But for me it's what got me into anime, that in dbz, and I've recently re-watched it in Japanese, and I still love it. Yes it is flawed and kinda weird, but I like weird.
  • YoUnRcker_MoM
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    Yes I loved Sailor Moon and still do but didn't know anime until I was given a VSH copy of First of the North Star about 12yrs ago & still love Anime.
  • ladydiskette
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    I remember watching maybe a few bits and pieces of the episode back when I was in sixth grade, and yeah the anime opening kicked ass. However, I didn't really follow it as closely as I do other anime today.

    But the one thing I thought was lame was those "Sailor Says" segments at the end, they were obviously bowdlerizing this for the American audience where we had those cartoon PSAs at the end of the shows like Captain Planet, Transformers, Jem, and GI Joe. They never had it tagged on in the actual Japanese anime.

    Not a bad review, but I was hoping maybe you would have done this as a crossover with some of the other anime reviewers on the site Doug, offer a point counter-point between a non-anime watcher and a anime watcher.
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    Okay, I don't normally like to spam, but I feel like it's relevant in this point because I did a video about sexuality in Sailor Moon, and I explain why I honestly don't find the short skirts a problem as well as other points on why I think this show is a good show

    http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=C_UgCYZHrmw

    (theres a space between the dash and the word watch so remove that before you try to use the link)

    I also ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE SAILOR URANUS yer-RUH-nus not yer-RAY-nus
  • thorondragon
    with anime it depends on what you are watching. while a lot of it is as crass as can be, some of it is legitimately enjoyable. One piece is perhaps the geratest thing ever to come from a complete psychological breakdown from eating too many shrooms, and fortunately it starts out pretty tame and gets into the really crazy over time.

    one show that is very god damn good is Code Geass........ it has to be one of the greatest shows ever created.
  • SpeedyEric  - Re: minnie3434 & thorondragon
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    It should also be noted that I respect anime fans for having good reasons for enjoying anime, manga, and anything like that.
  • Truaaaaa
    Yea, but Doug needs to see the commentary on the anniversary thing,mino says they're 18, then they laugh and say, forget the plot holes, THEY'RE 18. Also to this day gay relationships are cut out of manga and anime.
  • RosieA
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    Uh...what about yaoi or yuri? Even tame stuff like Loveless has hints of homosexual relationships. I'm sure mainstream stuff cuts it out but I know for a fact that there is a lot of anime and manga that has homosexual relationships in them.
  • PurpleTiger
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    Yaoi, yuri, Shonen-ai, and shoujo-ai series don't count, really. Those are usually aimed at older audiences, and are straight up made for the purpose of being exactly those. I think he means more along the lines of the implications in shows that are marketed in America for younger audiences, more specifically syndicated on television, which usually have at least some homosexual connotation or the implication that at least one character in the show is gay themselves, but that's changed around or edited.

    Back in the day, I still remember the most egregiously obvious example being Cardcaptor Sakura, or Card Captors here in America. Every scene in which Touya and Yuki were alone, unless it was extremely important plot wise, was cut out of the show, leading to hilariously short episode times. However, Touya and Yukito, while there was implication that they had feelings for each other (this being after all a CLAMP series), were still only best friends and I think could have easily been spun as such. Which is why I thought it was hilarious that when they decided to release Sailor Moon S and Haruka and Michiru were brought over they kept the good majority of their scenes, and Haruka's female-to-male cross-dressing, but made them cousins.

    In short, the formula I got from it was pretty much this:

    Two male characters MIGHT have gay feelings for each other = CENSOR EVERYTHING, NOT COOL

    Two outright lesbians who are ACKNOWLEDGED as such = Eh, whatever, just make them lesbians

    Of course, these were all shows released for syndication almost twenty years ago, and things HAVE changed for those. While it's not extremely obvious, they have at least stopped changing genders of characters simply because it would be easier and less controversial. Two examples I can think of are Haku on Naruto and Harley on Pokemon.

    For Haku, it could have been easy to make him female like Zoicite on Sailor Moon to avoid the complications of his femininity. However, instead of doing so they not only kept him male but kept the gender confusion he caused other characters as well. This isn't the best example, I realize, mostly because 1. he was never stated as gay, simply was feminine, and 2. this was also a show that kept things like the Thousand Years of Pain and the Sexy no Jutsu so it was already not too worried about censors.

    However, I consider Harley a great step forward. For anyone who don't know, he was a flamboyantly gay man during the Diamond and Pearl run of Pokemon. Again, while not outright stated "he's gay" there was a LOT of implication of it. He was campy, flamboyant, and even cross-dressed at times. And they kept everything in. Impressive for a show that was aimed at kids. They even worked in one of my favorite stealth-gay-jokes of all time in one episode, in which a web being controlled by one of his Pokemon caught on fire and we got this wonderful dial...
  • KouTheMad
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    indeed, i'm a major anime (And JRPG fan), but due to what i can only assume is......high standards (grew up with the Suikoden Franchise, Ogre Battle 64, Yu Yu Hakusho, and DBZ), i don't like ALOT of anime and JRPGs at the same time.

    i'm also what appears to be one of the few anime/JRPG fans that actually hates the constant pandering and fanservice, and actively want them to minimize or outright remove it.
  • HanSK
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    you monster
  • KouTheMad
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    i find that response kinda hilarious since your icon is of the God Emperor from Warhammer 40k.
  • RJ Dalton
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    Thumbs up to that. Down with the pointless fanservice. If I want porn, I can get the real stuff on the internet for free. Don't try to make me pay $20 for soft core imitation.
  • Cassmi
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    Sailor Moon was made when the Internet was a new thing for many people. (1995-2000)
  • Moreno X  - to SpeedyEric
    I understand why you don't enjoy anime and I'm no stranger whenever Japan produces stuff every now and then. For me, though, even as a kid who didn't know anime or what is anime at first can tell that these (like Sailor Moon) are a lot different in terms of an art form. Something entirely different than what we see and love about western cartoons and films. And I, since the introduction of growing up with the very first anime shows like the original Dragon Ball and DBZ, Hello Kitty, Samurai Pizza Cats and of course Sailor Moon, was fortunate to experience them.

    For how strange and crazy they were, they were the ones that opened the door to see the world of anime. I'm not an anime expert or anything about Japanese culture, however I can say that for a long time since anime had its wave in the late 80s and throughout the 90s, it got me to explore more anime like the Ghibli films and yes Pokemon (by the way, I've been watching Pokemon since it began) and Digimon; and others along the way.

    As you see here, it wasn't easy to get in and accept the style and how artistic anime can achieve in many areas that most western cartoons and films can't. But that doesn't mean anime gets a free pass a lot, and many of them can come out really messy and bad. Check out Crunchyroll.com to find one that you can sit down and enjoy something that'll disappoint you.

    Want my recommendations for something quiet, simple, moving and creative? See the shows:

    1. Myself; Yourself
    2. Ano Natsu de Matteru

    And the films:

    1. Choose whatever Ghibli film you want (I say Princess Mononoke ^_^)
    2. 5 Centimeters Per Second
    3. The Girl Who Leap Through Time

    That's my opinion dude. Probably not the best opinion but nobody says it was a easy opinion when it comes to discussing about anime as a whole.
  • SpeedyEric  - Moreno X
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    I didn't say I don't enjoy anime, I said dispite some of it's weirdness, there are stuff I like about it. In fact, I have The Animatrix and Batman: Gotham Knight in my video library; my favorite being the Batman film.

    Also, I stated back in my comments on the NC review of Ponyo that it actually got me interested in seeing that movie if I ever catch it on TV or at my local library.

    Oh, and recently, I called Power Rangers a live-action anime, with the morphing sequences, Megazord transformations, Power Blaster assembly, Battleizer activations, finishers, and so on.
  • XSpectreGreyX  - SpeedyEric
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    While Batman: Gotham Knight uses Japanese animation, it's WRITTEN by a Western writer (The Animatrix is also apparently influenced heavily by Western writers). When people refer to anime, they usually are referring to animated media written and animated by the Japanese. That's why the difference in culture is prevalent when watching anime that isn't aimed at kids.

    Media that just uses Japanese animation isn't usually considered anime. Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox uses Japanese animation, but you won't see much people calling it anime.

    Also, anime is in itself just something animated and written by the Japanese. There are many genres of anime, and lumping them all together and calling all of anime something just comes off as close-minded. It's like lumping all cartoons in America as light and soft because you watched Teen Titans GO!. There are things like Spawn and South Park that are in no way light and soft.

    Sorry if it seems like I'm singling you out, because I don't mean to, but it bugs me when when someone labels an entire medium as something because of exposure to a little of it (e.g anime and comics), particularly being exposed to very few genres (or even just one genre).
  • SpeedyEric  - XSpectreGreyX
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    That's okay, dude. As you can tell, I'm don't have as much knowledge on Japanesse animation as MarzGurl, JesuOtaku, or any of the other anime experts on this site.
  • Cassmi
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    The very simple rule of thumb is: Anime = Japanese. If it's not Japanese, it's not anime. :)
  • Mechagodzilla24
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    "4:29- And people still complain about Hayden Christenson as Anakin Skywalker."

    Faith in humanity restored.
  • Vismutti
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    I appreciate you being respectful towards anime/manga fans but I'm still going to respond because I can't help myself...

    The thing about anime is... that well, it's really just a western term for all of Japanese animation. And the Japanese use animation much more widely than western countries. So it's almost like lumping all American TV series together as one "genre". It's just that the ones that get exported tend to be the weird ones that people are curious about. And the most popular ones in Japan, of course. And well, it ends up usually being the stuff that appeals to the lowest common denominator. Sometimes good, often formulaic, cliché and stupid. Almost always flashy and over the top. And almost always it's the stuff that's meant for children or teenagers and most often action series. It gives you a pretty monotonic view of the industry but it really is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Not that I expect you to get into anime just because I say there's good stuff you should check out. I just want to set the record straight.

    I think the main reason I got into anime was because it was so refreshing to get away from the western clichés. Of course eventually I got fed up with the Japanese clichés. And now I don't really watch anything unless somebody who's taste I know and trust really recommends it to me...
  • mkeithddc  - Re: Megaforce
    its not Megaforce, shes saying negaforce, like negative force.
  • SpeedyEric  - mkeithddc
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    Sorry. Misheard.
  • secretsheik
    Also, the Sailor V thing is actually relevant. Sailor Moon started out as Sailor V and being just the one sailor scout against evil. Sailor V was then rehashed to become Sailor Venus, even though she was initially meant to be a solo hero in the beginning.

    Yeah I read too much manga...
  • nuckles87
    You shouldn't judge the entire anime industry based on stuff like Pokemon and Sailor Moon. All entertainment industries have their share of brain dead entertainment. I would personally recommend you check out some of the more obscure classics, like Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, FLCL, and Ghost in the Shell. Also check out some newer stuff like Michiko to Hatchin, Tiger & Bunny, Attack on Titan and Fate/Zero.

    A lot of this stuff you can watch legally subbed for free on Youtube, as well as dubbed on Netflix.
  • XSpectreGreyX  - SpeedyEric
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    There's nothing particularly weird about Pokemon. Most people who grew up with it dropped out of it around high school because its formula got old incredibly fast. The characters learn the same lessons over and over, and Ash seemingly loses his skills at the start of each region, and also failing to achieve his goal (of course, that only became a noticeable thing for me around 2005)

    You think Pokemon is weird? Watch FLCL. THAT is weird... and yet awesome. There's an episode wherein a giant guitar pick (I think?) is dressed as a cowboy uses two revolvers to fight an alien space-cop dressed as a Playboy bunny armed with a slingshot... I am not even kidding.

    Oh, and it's sad that a reference to another continuity that nobody who doesn't know of said continuity would get is our equivalent of portraying lesbians to children.
  • Vanderbilt  - a little higher
    I just want to post this a little higher, hopefully.

    I am implying Doug should never have made another video.

    To talk about it seriously, I don't like hearing about things like that, but the truth is that has gone on, and is still going on, and it's important for these matters to be brought to light. Is Doug Walker in a Nostalgia Critic video the one to bring it up? Honestly, if he's passionate about it, I think it's great for him to bring it up. I already saw a different opinion from someone who felt he brought it up in a disrespectful way. I actually disagree.

    But yeah, I honestly didn't find the video funny. Aside from the opening "repetition" gag. And whenever that girl from demo reel comes on, I do almost laugh. She's just funny. She doesn't even have to say anything, really. I don't get why she's so naturally amusing.

    --Katherine
  • LinkarasNum1Fan  - A New Low for NC
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    People who gave this a 5/5 deserve to be shot. Giving your dick a voice and a pistol isn't funny. It's pathetic, extremely immature, and makes you seem like you've lost all creativity. You need to take a look at some of your older reviews and relearn comedy. A little juvenility is okay, but this is way too much.

    Honestly, your review of Milk Money is pretty hypocritical now given how low you've sunk, Doug. Maybe you should wait 4 weeks or longer for the next review. This newer stuff is terrible. Your best episode since the return I would say is probably "Is It Right To Nitpick?" or "Top 11 South Park Moments."

    It's time to get rid of the dead weight that is killing your reviews (Tweedledee and Tweedledum). They're bringing your failure with Demo Reel to NC, and that's shameful, embarrassing, and awful. You're making lame jokes to incorporate them, and they disrupt and detract from YOUR reviews. I thought the worst of it came with the journey of the fart joke, but you proved me wrong with this review.
  • TheMusicCritic
    "People who gave this a 5/5 deserve to be shot."
    R-really? The people who gave this 5/5 deserved to be shot?
    As if saying "This video sucks, and however liked this should burn in hell!"

    "Giving your dick a voice and a pistol isn't funny. It's pathetic, extremely immature, and makes you seem like you've lost all creativity."
    Then why are you watching this?

    "You need to take a look at some of your older reviews and relearn comedy. A little juvenility is okay, but this is way too much."
    And that's the thing, all shows have to change and evolve other wise people will get bored of the same thing over and over again, and it's not like he doesn't try to recapture the "glory" days, I mean, common on, it's not like AVGN who is literally trying his best to scrap up jokes from games.

    "Honestly, your review of Milk Money is pretty hypocritical now given how low you've sunk, Doug."
    Why?

    "Maybe you should wait 4 weeks or longer for the next review."
    Again, why? Other than an apparent hatred for a series but then again, if you don't like, why are you still watching it? You say literally in the next sentence "The newer stuff is terrible" then why watch it?

    "This newer stuff is terrible."
    Your opinion.

    "Your best episode since the return I would say is probably "Is It Right To Nitpick?" or "Top 11 South Park Moments.""
    Than why did you say the newer stuff is terrible when you just named episodes you liked?

    "It's time to get rid of the dead weight that is killing your reviews (Tweedledee and Tweedledum). They're bringing your failure with Demo Reel to NC, and that's shameful, embarrassing, and awful."
    It's not the actors bringing down the show, if you look in the credits, they had nothing to do with the writing, it was Rob and Doug who write the episodes, not the "Tweedledee and Tweedledum" you dumbass.

    "You're making lame jokes to incorporate them, and they disrupt and detract from YOUR reviews."
    Your opinion.

    "I thought the worst of it came with the journey of the fart joke, but you proved me wrong with this review."
    Oh no! A penis with a gun, shame on you, Doug Walker, you went too far!
  • LinkarasNum1Fan
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    lol. I guess you're one of those who voted 5/5?

    I've seen too many great NC episodes to give up on him yet. That's why I keep watching.

    1) Milk Money- if you don't get the connection, that's probably why you voted 5/5.

    2) Series- What series? Sailor Moon? I don't really care one way or another. I watched it a few times when Cartoon Network still was showing Scooby Doo 80% of the time. And I like NC, despite the fact that's he's been floundering lately.

    3) Best episodes- There's a key part you seemed to have overlooked- "since the return." Those 2 episodes don't excuse the extreme fall in quality. I was illustrating that he can still make good videos, but for some reason he's chosen to not do it very often.

    4) Writing- No shit, Sherlock. Of course they're the writers. The thing is, if they didn't bother with the stupid DR actors, it would be better, because they obviously can't find good jokes to incorporate them. Cameos are hard to write for, and these guys are perpetual cameos, not teaming up like with NChick for Fern Gully or JO for Digimon.

    5) Again, watch Milk Money and tell me Doug doesn't harp on them for sinking low with the potty humor.

    Finally, your spelling sucks. It figures the same dumbass who thinks "otherwise" is two words would find this episode to be better than complete shit.
  • James Picard  - Do you think you might be going a bit too far?
    I mean, I felt a little uncomfortable during the talking penis scene too, but that doesn't mean everyone who really enjoyed this episode deserves to be shot. Is it really a bad thing that there are people who were entertained by this video, even if you weren't? Sure, it sucks that you didn't enjoy it, but you don't suck for not enjoying it, and neither do the people who did. People don't need to be killed for having differences in opinion. And Doug can't really choose to make episodes you think are good, he can only choose to make what he thinks is good and hope other people like it. If it's not for you, than maybe your time would be better spent watching the videos you do enjoy, like Linkara or some of the old NCs. As for the DR cast members, you have to keep in mind, Doug had no idea he'd be going back to doing NC, and to simply fire them because he realized DR wasn't working would be unfair to them, since this was how they paid the bills. It's obviously hard to find a job these days, and what's more it would be pretty cruel of Doug to just say 'I'm taking away your job simply because I want to go back to my old show, bye!' All Doug is trying to do is entertain you. If it's not working, that's too bad, but there's no need to go this far.
  • TheMusicCritic
    "lol. I guess you're one of those who voted 5/5?"
    I didn't even vote at all.

    "I've seen too many great NC episodes to give up on him yet. That's why I keep watching."
    If the series is sucking to you know, it's not going to get better for you. You completely misunderstand that series, if they're long running, have to change, they have to mix up the formula, it's a lose-lose situation because that always pisses off someone and gains something.

    "1) Milk Money- if you don't get the connection, that's probably why you voted 5/5."
    Which are you talking about? The movie or the review? Because I've seen the movie, it's absolute shit, I'm assuming you're comparing the sexual humor in that film to one in the episode. If so, there's like only a hand full of sexual humor in the episode. And again, I didn't vote, meaning I didn't vote 5/5 and even if I did, does that actually make me a stupid fuck? That deserve to be shot? For liking a video on the internet?
    Say this to yourself out loud:

    "You deserved to be shot for liking a video on the internet."

    "2) Series- What series? Sailor Moon? I don't really care one way or another. I watched it a few times when Cartoon Network still was showing Scooby Doo 80% of the time. And I like NC, despite the fact that's he's been floundering lately."
    You have to be a dumb shit to not get the connection that "Maybe you should wait 4 weeks or longer for the next review." and "Other than an apparent hatred for a series but then again." were referencing NC.

    "3) Best episodes- There's a key part you seemed to have overlooked- "since the return." Those 2 episodes don't excuse the extreme fall in quality. I was illustrating that he can still make good videos, but for some reason he's chosen to not do it very often."
    You don't seem to comprehend that making videos while finding new ways to make people laugh is hard as shit.

    "4) Writing- No shit, Sherlock. Of course they're the writers. The thing is, if they didn't bother with the stupid DR actors, it would be better, because they obviously can't find good jokes to incorporate them. Cameos are hard to write for, and these guys are perpetual cameos, not teaming up like with NChick for Fern Gully or JO for Digimon."
    Depends on the writer, I myself can make the most of a character cameo if I can find ways to make the personalities clash with each other. And it's ironic yo bring in the NChick because she's supposed to be the female counterpart to NC. And it's entirely your opinion, tho, a lot of people might like those two, why drop them for one asshole on the internet.

    "5) Again, watch Milk Money and tell me Doug doesn't harp on them for sinking low with the potty humor."
    So? What exactly is wrong with potty humor? If it's done right, it c...
  • LinkarasNum1Fan
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    Maybe you didn't vote, but I'm guessing you at least liked it with how much you defend it.

    It's a Darwin Awards thing. It's obvious from your shitty English skills that you have mental problems and would serve the world better ending your consumption of resources.

    "Finding new ways to make people laugh is hard as shit?" Really? Then I wonder how he managed to keep us all laughing week after week, with only a few bad episodes along the way way back when.

    I'm not the only one who recognizes his fall. There are actually a lot of people. Guess what? Opinions aren't unique! Chances are, there's more than one person that shares my opinion! As a matter of fact, I KNOW there are. Again, I realize this is beyond your comprehension, but try to keep up with the rest of the class.

    I guess I have to repeat myself for you to understand it: I've watched him for far too long to give up on him just yet. He still has the ability to make good shows, as he's done a couple of times since the return. But, like a critic, I'm not going to hold back when he screws it up.
  • TheMusicCritic
    "Maybe you didn't vote, but I'm guessing you at least liked it with how much you defend it."
    No fucking shit, I thought it was ok, I'm defending it against you because of the "People who gave this a 5/5 deserve to be shot." line.

    "It's a Darwin Awards thing. It's obvious from your shitty English skills that you have mental problems and would serve the world better ending your consumption of resources."
    Because yes, a few mistakes = dumber than a sack of shit. And yes, the entire fucking planet would be a better place if one guy on the internet end his "consumption of resources".

    ""Finding new ways to make people laugh is hard as shit?" Really? Then I wonder how he managed to keep us all laughing week after week, with only a few bad episodes along the way way back when."
    I like how you implied that everybody loved the Nostalgia Critic back then, hey guess what? I'm pretty sure a lot of people hated the NC when he first started.

    "I'm not the only one who recognizes his fall. There are actually a lot of people. Guess what? Opinions aren't unique! Chances are, there's more than one person that shares my opinion! As a matter of fact, I KNOW there are. Again, I realize this is beyond your comprehension, but try to keep up with the rest of the class."
    I didn't you weren't, there are tons of people who think he fell or was never even good to begin with. Also, apparently opinions aren't unique but you get to say whoever liked this should kill themselves, great logic!

    "I guess I have to repeat myself for you to understand it: I've watched him for far too long to give up on him just yet. He still has the ability to make good shows, as he's done a couple of times since the return. But, like a critic, I'm not going to hold back when he screws it up."
    Yeah, but your argument is invalid the second you say "whoever gave this 5/5 should be shot". And the "like a critic" made me laugh my fucking ass off, because you're nothing like a critic, especially with your rude and disrespectful behavior and the "Go shoot yourself" line. Imagine if Roger Ebert went and told the people who liked "North" that they should shoot themselves. Is that what a critic would do? Tell someone to shoot themselves because they like something?

    Congratulations, you're a dumb fuck who thinks that people who like things you don't should physically harm themselves and that people who make a few mistakes in there spelling/English are fucking stupid. For fucks sake, nobody's perfect, even people from big name companies and even celebrities have spelling made spelling mistakes, that doesn't make them stupid, it's just a simple mistake.

    Linkara should be disgraced to have you as his "Number One fan" which btw, nice original name, never heard that before, I'm do...
  • Vanderbilt
    I agree with you, Linkara's Number One Fan. Giving any kind of a numerical value to Nostalgia Critic's gutter trash videos should be rewarded in kind with a bullet. Metaphorical bullet of course, I do not condone illegal actions. I agree that he is both pathetic and immature. I also agree that his top 11 South Park moments was a fantastic video, and his number one pick actually brought a tear to my eye, as he captured what the episode meant to him and people he knows beautifully. I agree that tweedledee needs to be removed from future episodes, but I would personally like it if tweedledum stuck around for as long as NC episodes are being made. NC has been unwatchable to me since the AI review, make no mistake. But I don't really care....
  • TheGodEmperor
    Man it's nice to see someone not saying "first" for once :)

    Anyways, I want to add, I think it's not fair to call anyone who would enjoy the appearance of a 14 year old as a pedophile. Not cause I am one since I'm not (I actually hate people pre-college age, they're always immature and annoying and not as well developed), but only because I value the importance of knowing definitions of words.

    And since I value definition of words, I would urge people to read this wiki article:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Chronophilia

    Yes, the correct term would be Hebephilia.

    This has been a fun fact and little education from your local God Emperor :P

    As for the age bit itself, meh, man I knew Japan was messed up since age of consent was 13, but I didn't know about the rest of the stuff NC mentioned. Interesting, yet disturbing. I also knew up until the 80s they were the World's #1 source of Child Porn -_- god that's disturbing. But at least they listened to the world's disgust and stopped it since then.

    As for Sailor Moon, I only ever found the first season enjoyable when I was a kid and then got bored of it. For Toonami shows,I very much preferred other ones like Gundam Wing (even if not perfectly written and poor pacing, it was loads better in terms of depth) or Dragon Ball Z (tbh, it's never been well written, but for mindless action it's fun), or especially Cowboy Bebop when that came out (though I think that was only on during the midnight run of Toonami).

    Glad to see NC do this series. Hope he'll do more. Also, I found the little nod to Film Reel (sad you guys removed the show) amusing at the end :)
  • 557deadpool
    that's...that's kind of a stupid reason to not like anime
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  • Rapidfire316
    2nd I guess (I feel less important)
  • SpeedyEric  - Rapidfire316
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    Sorry, dude. I didn't mean to post first, it just happend.
  • Vanderbilt  - Rapidfire
    Being quick on the draw is vital. Do not feel lessened by your place in the Universe.

    --Katherine Vanderbilt
  • ShadowHand
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    Great review N.C and wow didn't know about those cultural differences in japan at all. on the other hand while the girls are said to be 14 they are drawn to look much older. I mean look at azula in avatar she looks like she is the same age as zuko in fact at times I thought she was the older sibling yet she's two years younger than him. You would think this age difference would be more obvious in the flash back episodes like zuko alone but even there they seem to be the same age.
  • FireFlyan  - Re: ShadowHand
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    I agree that Azula looks older than 14, but I thought they were twins the first time I saw the show. Watching it again, I can sort of see it now.

    It sounds like you are implying that Avatar: The Last Airbender was a Japanese show, and it was not. If that's not the case, then I apologize.
  • ShadowHand
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    I know avatar was not a japanese show but the animation did at least try to simulate the anime style. Also what I failed to mention was that it seems in many anime that some characters are younger than they look. Take Yu-gi-oh for example until yu-gi lets yami take over he looks way younger than his friends of course this could just be because he's short but then again in the show rex raptor and weevil underwood are also around the same height as him. And joey tia and triston (I know those aren't the japanese names) look like they could pass for 20 by comparison.
  • FireFlyan
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    Like I said, since it's not, I apologize. But that's very true. I don't know if you've ever seen Prince of Tennis, but all of those characters are in MIDDLE SCHOOL. Even the "seniors" are only in ninth grade, but they look like they are about to graduate high school, not middle school.
    For Yugi, I think the point is that he is supposed to look younger than his real age, that way his transformation is more dramatic. And it's genetic, which hinders his game with Tea, or ladies in general.
  • TooMuchFreeTime
    I liked Luna's English voice so much better.

    When I saw the two 'cousins' I figured out pretty quick that they seemed awfully close, and I was young enough that that sort of thing could have easily gone over my head.
  • Anuthal  - That triggers something.
    We had this stuff in germany to.
    Never was a fan of it. Not even of the skimpy outfits.

    By the way, keep this stuff up Critic.
    Best wishes from your german fan.
  • Ricchan
    I acctually liekd Sailor Moon a lot as a kid.
    Now it's rather Painful to watch.

    Man, does the US Intro suck :D
    German one was way more catchy ^^
  • Dural  - Objection
    Oh boy, where do i even start...

    As german boy who got teased a lot for watching SM, I have gotten used to defend that show.

    26:18 - That formula is an exact representation of SM. Of the first 13 episodes of the 200. And those are a chore to watch. SM has so much more to offer in later seasons.

    I understand that this a review on the American version, but that version is nowhere as good as the original and you reviewed the worst 5% of the show (+ the more controversial aspects). I have to defend the original animated work here ;P

    Your review adressed the following: Localization, sexualisation, ditzy main character and a repetitive series structure with the overusage of stock footage. Let me adress those and then I'll add some reason why those first episodes are clearly no representation of the franchise or the anime.

    Localization issues were always an issue with this series. American voice acting was really crappy and over here it is usually the most dreaded version of 90s anime. The characters really do sound annoying in english. Also the Sailor Says segment was thankfully an American only thing.
    Next thing is the butchering. The whole opening space opera sequence is not in the original. That is usually grand finale stuff. The whole s1 finale was so censored that they made the two parter finale into a single episode. All in all, there are 7 episodes and one whole season missing in the US version.
    The butchering has usually sth to do with people getting injured, dying or the michiru / haruka romance, which, in my opinion, has some of the most well written drama in any anime and the scenes with those two are on par with what any other show has to offer (I let no one of the SM hook without them having watched episode 110 - the talismans). And those beautiful scenes are only one example why i love SM so much, it has such well written dialogues and powerful, visual scenes. After the first episodes, that is and espescially in the story episodes.
    By story episodes, I mean those episodes that advance the plot or lead to the defeat of a mayor evil. Due to the fact that SM is a sentai series like power rangers, SM has a huge amount of episodes that have a monster of week theme. These are by no means bad, but if you don't like the episodic character of this kind of series, it is hard to like SM. The story lines of the first half of the first season are especially bad in comparision as they only feature girlish themes and usually work in the given "Usagi is naive" way.
    The story episodes, however, are simply great. Plot, animation and drama, all extremely well done in my opinion.

    But for me specially, SM is not only about the drama and the action, it is also about the everyday lifes of the 5 girls. The action is a nice addition, but getting to know those characters, learing about their pasts and wishes, watching them interact with each other ...
  • Dural  - part 2
    But for me specially, SM is not only about the drama and the action, it is also about the everyday lifes of the 5 girls. The action is a nice addition, but getting to know those characters, learing about their pasts and wishes, watching them interact with each other and meeting new amazing people with every monster of the week episode feels so nice. Hearing a fictional conductor talking to these girls about his love to music or watching simply hearing the scouts talk about their problems is a huge part of that fandom and i find it beneficial for kids to meet all these different kinds of people.
    But back to the main characters, yes Serena is a ditz, but a beautiful one. As you said, she has character, she brings emotion and she has many more beautiful qualities. SM was the first series to use an all female hero group with a male love interest and that allowed girls to have more than a typical love interest role and diversified the female character in anime, as all scouts represents different aspects of feminity. Making the main hero a ditzy, good for nothing as a comedic relief made the character so much more believable as she has extremely strong moments and a glorious fate, but is also very relateable. And thank god, altough she stays ditzy and naive, she matures a lot.

    Next thing i want to talk about is the stock footage. Yes it is annoying in the first two seasons, when you have to go through that again and again and again. Thankfully, in the later seasons, it's usually off screened. But one has to remember, SM was done in the early 90s. The animation industry was basically dead after the housing crisis and the money pretty tight. And animation is expensive. So every minute you can save to animate, is a lot of money to be spent somewhere else and SM is visually appealling. Just look at those city backgrounds or the enemies bases. Also repetition is normal for all sentai series. How many times have I seen those mighty morphing power zords being pulled by invisble cords to fuse into a giant roboter. It is just how things were done at that time. I know, that doesn't make things better. Season 3 does make things better.

    I don't really want to talk about sexualisation. It would end up as another two page long essay about japanese cultural structure and how that kind of depiction is not naked in the japanese eye and I can save that time as the NC got that right: It is a different cultural background. Nudeness is not seen as sth sexual, or rather nudeness is normal enough to be shown that way in Japan. So I'd really like to not make a huge fuss over sth I personally care so little about and instead would like to focus on the awesome show, that Sailor Moon is.

    SM has great characters, amazing drama, handles themes like death, sacrifice, fate, treachery, murder, losing your only child to the forces of evil, not being able to be with the one you love, what it means to be a parent, extreme beauty vain, illn...
  • Dural  - part 3
    SM has great characters, amazing drama, handles themes like death, sacrifice, fate, treachery, murder, losing your only child to the forces of evil, not being able to be with the one you love, what it means to be a parent, extreme beauty vain, illness and amnesia, while also dealing with the usual teenage problems of exclusion, being passive and defining yourself. In addition it includes many (adult) one shot characters with interessting backgrounds, to which children usually have no access. In addition to the great animation, that still holds up today in most parts, the original series has one of the greatest musical scores I've ever heard. In addition, Haruka and Michiru and their relationship is simply beautiful. That is what defines Sailor Moon for me.
  • Dural  - I found the subbed episode, no if that one doesn't
    animeram com/sailor-moon-s/21/
  • Ricchan
    Sailor Moon?
    That's ... unexpected....
  • redfarmer
    It's understandable you'd be confused by Sailor V. Sailor V was actually the first series in the manga. Sailor Moon was a sequel to it. Sailor V was actually Sailor Venus. She was undercover as a super heroine looking for the moon princess. All this is explained later on but the dub cut most of that out.
  • musiclover9293
    I'm actually one of the few girls that did not watch this as a kid. This review should be fun.
  • Erika N.
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    Great video as always, NC! :)
  • Eyeshot
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    I haven't seen the video yet, but I just wanted to share something. Way back in 2000, a college roommate had a female friend who wanted him to watch a Sailor Moon movie. Being the kind of guy he is (someone with no shame), he decided to watch it with the whole gang (other roommates and a guy across the hall).

    It was an epic experience. We had so much fun making fun of that movie, such as in moments where Serene ate some cookies while falling hundreds of feet and received the power of love and friendship (just from those fricking cookies).
  • Vanderbilt  - Sailor Moon
    First, I'll comment on the very end of your video. I did post"thatguywiththeglasse s.com" under websites that should be taken off the internet.

    Second, the discussion about some things in Japanese culture, I won't mention anything specific, sort of put me in a sad mood. I couldn't just recalibrate my thoughts and continue laughing about the video. I am not saying I found anything in this video funny, but hearing about things like forced prostitution is mildly upsetting for me.

    Third, I didn't watch Sailor Moon, but I did watch Aeon Flux, and I pretended I didn't watch Card Captors.
  • Eyeshot
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    "I am not saying I found anything in this video funny, but hearing about things like forced prostitution is mildly upsetting for me."

    It should indeed be upsetting; no culture should have such a thing. I just wonder if you're implying that such a thing should never be mentioned. It's reality, after all, and denying reality is a tad unhealthy. The NC only brought it up to the content of Sailor Moon into perspective.
  • Sadako
    Yeah, when you look at Japan's really weird love-hate relationship with sex and their stance that the exploitation of underaged girls is their #1 social ill, it seems really skeevy that shows like Sailor Moon and pop groups like AKB48 would be such monumental successes when they are sexualizing teenage girls.
  • stcerberusengel
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    It's been pointed out before, but I'll repeat it here:

    This show in japan was targeted to very young girls, not males, and not adults. The style choices are not meant to sexualize the characters. They're only there for thematic and aesthetic purposes. It's something that gets lost in translation because of the target audience for the English dubbed version.

    What little sexual content the original version of the show had (which was never overtly stated or shown btw) was actually treated very intelligently and quite realistically.
  • dragonimp
    They ARE meant to be sexualized - it's part of the magical girl shtick. Metaphorically, the girl's developing sexuality - puberty - is what gives her power. The American dub cut out a lot of the sexuality, but it's still clearly there. There's no reason for the thematic and aesthetic choices to appear so sexual unless they're meant to be sexual.
  • ohe
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    I think it's pretty clear the one with a paranoid love-hate relationship to sex are the US. That's why we're ill-equipped to ever even talk about these things like proper adults. Like the transformation sequence, no matter how people like Doug insist that it's an "obvious" example of "fanservice" (as if that's some kind of an analysis), if you look at it unbiased it easily leans more towards towards being just a cute thing that's pandering to early teen girls. You'd have to be a hormonal teen boy to assume that a thigh is sexual organ, and when we discuss about what Sailor Moon is actually about in all seriousness, for some cosmic reason it's those guys whose expert opinion gains all the credence.
  • QuietW8
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    Some people underestimate how Freudian art can be. Just because something is marketed towards a specific gender, doesn't mean it wont contain personal projections of how the artists and creators view gender. If an artist views women more sexually than intellectually, there's going to be some evidence of that in the finished product. That's one of the reasons media is often tested to sample audiences and peer reviewed before final release. To gauge response from demographics.

    An artist might sometimes make fictional characters more sexualized not simply because the artist is sexist, but because the environment the artist grew up in was more openly sexual. The creators of Sailor Moon are from Japan, which is a more sexually open culture. Girls in Japan may more open to the "sexy" scenes as seen in Sailor Moon, so that in a way they are merely less questioning of it. That, however, doesn't negate the fact that some degree of sexuality is involved.

    There exists an all too common argument in regards to oversexualization of women in the media. Often someone will say, "Game/Movie is marketed towards men, not women. It is simply appealing to the demographic, and therefore not sexist." Selling sexism exclusively to ones own gender, does not stop it from being sexist. The same goes for racism, and any other socially derogatory mindset. You wouldn't stop saying that the KKK is racist,

    Even if you don't take issue with sexism meant to appeal to a specific demographic, most of us should be able to agree that it's unwise to ignore lucrative markets. Gaming might still be male dominated, but there is an ever-increasing number of female gamers these days. There are girls who play games such as Mortal Kombat, and the creators are no doubt aware of this. Yet that hasn't stopped them from oversexualizing the female characters. Which is odd, considering that the original designs of female MK characters were relatively tame. The series today, with its oversexualized females, hasn't sold much more than the older games. Any slight increase in sales for the newer MK is more attributable to features like online multiplayer. So then why sexualize? The same could be asked of many other games that don't need to make female characters sexy in order to be successful.
  • ohe
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    So, to assume that you even we're on the point at all, your argument is that video game industry is a working allegory for Sailor Moon in the sense that both of them started by pandering to their initial demographic A, but at the prospect of gaining stronger following expanded the focus of pandering towards the secondary demographic B, except for when it specifically didn't and kept pandering to the demographic A instead?

    Seems very contrived to me, and I miss the point. I blame Freud.
  • ohe
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    Seriously though, you're still taking the sexualization (which equals not sexism, by the way) in Sailor Moon as granted without any proof that such sexualization existed in the first place. Thus far we haven't even got a definition of sexualization or sexism, let alone cross-referenced those with Sailor Moon, which in no way supports your declaration that "some degree of sexuality is involved." All we got is the "I-nose-it-when-I-sees- it" attitude of some individuals. Doug's, who gives more weight to his personal attitudes from when he was 14 than to anything else, and yours, because you assume Japan is "a sexually open culture" for whatever that means.
  • Vismutti
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    From what I've seen about both American and Japanese culture (to be fair I haven't ever been to the US but I imagine I have some idea through all the imported TV shows and movies and online content) I'd say it's both that have a paranoid love-hate relationship to sex. It's just that they have it in very different ways.

    Of course nearly all cultures have issues with nudity and sex, at least the so-called "civilized" cultures. But I know that in my culture people are definitely less neurotic about it and nudity isn't really a taboo (it's usually frowned upon to be naked in public in real life but it's not an issue in films). Non-sexual nudity is allowed even in kids movies. And yes, we actually have such a thing as "non-sexual nudity". Also sex ed starts in elementary school (around the age of 11, I think, usually but in my school the basics were first talked about when we were 8 or 9) which I understand is not the case in America? (Although I know the US can have very different customs in different states.)
  • Vanderbilt
    I am implying Doug should never have made another video.

    To talk about it seriously, I don't like hearing about things like that, but the truth is that has gone on, and is still going on, and it's important for these matters to be brought to light. Is Doug Walker in a Nostalgia Critic video the one to bring it up? Honestly, if he's passionate about it, I think it's great for him to bring it up. I already saw a different opinion from someone who felt he brought it up in a disrespectful way. I actually disagree.

    But yeah, I honestly didn't find the video funny. Aside from the opening "repetition" gag. And whenever that girl from demo reel comes on, I do almost laugh. She's just funny. She doesn't even have to say anything, really. I don't get why she's so naturally amusing.
  • Dipper723
    I just watched all 200 episodes earlier this month. Can't wait to see what you think about it.
  • Ricchan
    Man, the english Synchro does suck big time :D

    Also the Localized names are even worse then in the german version. Serena? Really? Here she was called "Bunny", what was already weird, but at least the translation of "Usagi".

    Aaand, teh Villian is called Beryll not barrel iirc. Sailor moon had this tradition to call a lot of people after stones. ^^
  • carfox
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    It actually kind of makes sense. In Japan, rabbits are associated with the moon, and "Serena" means "moon," of course. I think they do call her "Bunny" in the English dub as a sort of nickname.
  • Sadako
    Also, 'Bunny' is a somewhat sexually charged term here in America--the show clearly doesn't need help on that front.
  • Wisteria
    Not for Japanese the name comes from the legend of Rabbits on the Moon. In fact her name in Japanese literally means Moon rabbit.
  • stcerberusengel
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    From what I know, Serena means clear, bright, fair, and joyous.

    What etymology says that it means moon? Just curious.

    I'd have to re-watch the dub, but if they do call her bunny, it's probably Uranus that does so.
  • Sadako
    'Serena' is how you would say 'Selene' with a Japanese accent, lol.

    In all likelihood, they were shooting for similarity with 'Selene' (And might have decided to not name her 'Selena', since Selena Perez had been killed right around when they acquired the rights to the show, and that would have been in pretty poor taste, even for DIC), and they thought it would be amusing to give a name meaning 'calm' to a decidedly not calm 14-year-old spazz.
  • Gatomon41
    Ever heard of the Sea of Serenity? The Mare Serenitatis is one of the major dark basaltic plains on the moon. It also happens to be the former location of the Moon Kingdom in the series.
  • Dural  - Tsuki no Usagi
    Fellow german here: Think of Man in the moon in the western culture. The japanese equivalent is the bunny in the moon.
    Tsukino Usagi is literally Tsuki (moon) no (possesive) Usagi (rabbit).
    Hi no Rei means Fire Spirit and so on...
  • Dural
    phoebe, selene and luna ( the names of the three sisters in gargoyles) all mean moon in different languages. Greek, latin and babylonian i think.
  • Falconfly
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    No, the former two are greek and the latter is latin.
  • Zombieseaweed
    I kind of wondered why Sailor Mars's powers were power of fire. I get the rest of the planet's powers, but isn't Mars freezing cold?
    Also critic, I watched this show a long time ago as a kid. It was terrible at first, but it did get SLIGHTLY better towards the end when it started to have different formulas. But it was still a pretty terrible show for the most part.
  • Ricchan
    Mars is red, it is simple as that ;)
  • KelaRavenwood
    In most mythology Mars is the Fire/War planet because it is red and can be seen to be red with the naked eye.
  • Slowking
    Well not the naked eye, but even old school telescopes will do.
  • Sadako
    The Japanese name of Mars translates to 'Fire Star'. That's why Jupiter also gets plant-themed powers ('Wood Star') in addition to slightly more logical thunder-based attacks, and why Venus has chains in her attack names ('Metal Star').
  • Jeff Jacobson
    The Japanese word for fire is ?. The word for the planet Mars is ?? (literally "fire star").
  • Sadako
    It's too bad kanji gets borked by the message system--it makes explaining this stuff a lot easier, lol
  • Falconfly
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    In asian cultures, the five planets of Jupiter, Mars, Saturn, Venus and Mercury are associated with the elements of Wood/Wind, Fire, Earth, Metal and Water, respectively
  • jaymiechan
    "there are boys and there are girls. choose one"....ouch....so since i am bi, i don't exist? :P
  • Syph26
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    Fine, choose two. Be greedy lol.
  • animesoul167
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    Don't take every little thing as a personal fucking offense. I don't think he had time in the video to mention homo, hetero, bi, pan, a, and demi sexuality. It would have kind of killed the joke.
  • FireFlyan
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    Well, when you chose your partner, it's either a boy or a girl, right?

    ....Unless it's both, so I see your point. :)
  • Falconfly
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    Bisexual dude here too.

    It sort of makes sense as a joke: just as the messages in the Sailor Segments are artificial and shoved at the last moment, so would be the writer's understanding of human sexuality.
  • Toothless Gaming
    During the beginning made me miss Dr.Insano on here :(
  • slingara
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    The Penis bit was hilarious! Good job Doug and Malcolm!

    PS: The Demo Reel reference was hilarious as well!
  • The Dark Avenger
    Oh my God this is one of your funniest reviews to date. That middle sketch about your dick talking to you had me crying from laughter lmfao. I always thought this show was dumb as a kid and boy is it. "And then the fire nation attacked" anyone else sense the foreshadowing to his next review since he's done with the series now. Oh, there will be blood.
  • Mousy Voice
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    All right, a new Nostalgia Critic. What is he going to be reviewing today? Is it some cheesy cartoon for little boys? Or maybe it's a porno or a brainless action flick. Or maybe it's...Sailor Moon? Maybe I clicked on a Nostalgia Chick video by mistake.

    Aside from that surprise, this was certainly an interesting (and disturbing) look at a cult classic anime. I personally never watched it, although perhaps I was just too young to appreciate the...sex appeal of the show. Either that or I was not born with an homicidal dick run amuck from the movie Bruno. Thank God that now a days when full grown men want to watch something cute and girly, they have My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic for that. It's fun, it's imaginative, it's got lovable characters, and no one would be perverted enough to want to sexualize a pony. Right?
  • Vulture
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    theres my little pony fetish stuff. *head desk* rule #34 of the internet: if it exists, there's porn for it.
  • Crossover Princess
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    This was an okay review...

    The first half was MEH...

    However the second half after the comical was where it picked up. I did like him dwelling on Uranus and Neptune.

    But nothing really stood out though it was a pleasant surprise he reviewed it...

    I will say this though... Melvin (or Umino in Japan) needs to be dubbed over by Doctor Insano more!
  • stcerberusengel
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    I sense some weird science in Umino's future! :P
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    I dislike how he pronounced Uranus's name though, IDK if he just wanted to make the Your Anus joke, or if he didn't ever hear them talk, but it's Yuh-RUH-nus not Yuh-RAY-nus
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    I love the Avatar joke :D

    and *nitpick* Usagi and the rest of the inner senshi are 16 by the end of the series, Neptune, Uranus, and Pluto are even older

    But I just feel like I need to defend this show a little because I do genuinely like it (The original, not the American version, the american version sucked)

    First off I don't think the uniforms were that overly sexualized, I did a whole speel on this
    when I reviewed the feminist and homosexual aspects of Sailor Moon (On my page if you want to see it, just click on my username). There outfits were designed for dexterity, like ballerinas who also where one piece leotards with short skirts. If their fukas were any longer, unnecessary fabric would get in the way of fighting. And pants/shorts just aren't as easy to run around in. besides it's not like we're seeing their privates or even their underwear when they bend over, it's just part of a leotard. We see them all the time in swim suits and like I mentioned before, ballerinas, and no one seems to mind. Also nudity isn't as big of a taboo in Japan, in fact for almost the entire last episode of the show Usagi is naked, but it's not a big deal because its not done to be objectifying or sexual its just showing that after this huge battle, she's reverted to her purest and most natural state. Not saying that the series avoids sex by any means, in the manga we see Usagi and Mamoru in bed together several times, and she does have a daughter at 21 which is still pretty young. And Haruka and Michiru (Uranus and Neptune) make sexual comments to each other all the time. But the manga and the original does actually take the time to put it in context so it doesn't come off as perverted, but instead a natural part of growing up.

    I'll admit the transformation scenes were obviously fan service and Sailor Moon creator Naoko Takeuchi has stated that she disliked them. As well as many other things from the Anime including the formulaic-ness. The Manga is NOT that formulaic it unfolds very naturally.

    Also that opening scene was NOT in the original, that scene wasn't supposed to be shown until the third to last episode and there was a lot of build up to it. The Americans (big shock) fucked it up. A lot of episodes that broke away from the formula got cut out, including the entire last season, which was fair and away the best season of the show. Also the animation wasn't repeated as much in the original because the Americans cut A LOT of scenes from the show (which is one of the reasons the dumb ass PSAs happened because they needed to take up time that was cut) a lot of times the fight scenes would be run twice once forwards and once backwards to make up for lost time as well, and so much was cut from the season finally of the first season that it actually was able to fit into one episode instead of the original 2 parter.
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    As it stands even in the original Japanese run the first season which is the most formulaic and has the worst animation, is the WORST the series gets, which is a shame because that's the season everyone remembers. Usagi (Serena) really does grow up, particularly in the last season. She becomes a lot more mature and likable. In fact she becomes so devoted to her friends she's willing to die for them, and occasionally, she does. In the last episode of season one (though it's cut from the american) she burns out her power and it kills her, she's only revived later because of...I'll be honest because of a plot device. In season s she almost kills herself to save Sailor Saturn. And in Super s she jumps off a platform that's several thousand miles in the air to save her daughter. So it's very interesting to see her progression throughout the series

    And that poster she walks by is Sailor Venus, who is actually the leader of the Sailor Senshi
    and was reawakened about six months before Sailor Moon was. She was a bit more flashy and the media took notice of her, and she became famous, that's why she's on the poster. Studios got wind of HER adventures and started making products about her. There's a full manga series about her called Codename Sailor V, and it was actually the authors original project but never quite took off so she changed to Sailor Moon instead.

    I would nitpick that Pluto doesn't have to be a planet since not all the senshi's are named after planets (ex. Sailor Chibi Moon, Sailor Chibi Chibi, the Sailor Stars, Sailor Galaxy and of course Sailor Moon herself) but I liked that joke, so I'll give it a pass :D Actually, it's kind of funny because fans of the show joke that the reason Pluto is basically stuck in solitary confinement watching the space time door for all of eternity is because she is no longer a planet

    I'll admit it's not the best Anime ever, but I really think it was a good show based off a really good manga, the American version really REALLY cocked it up (in fairness it could have been worse, don't believe me, look up "Toon maker Sailor Moon)
  • phoenix252005
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    Your awesome,and super smart:)
  • Dipper723
    Another popular children's show that's formulaic is Phineas & Ferb. And it's the longest running Disney cartoon with 140 episodes, and most of them have two stories in it, so roughly over 250 stories.
  • stealthmidget
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    I love Phineas and Ferb, though. And I'm 29 ^_^

    Sailor Moon I watched every now and again. Mostly for Sailor Mercury. I think that's how girls shows differ from boys shows. Girls shows throw in as many different people as they can knowing the girls will stick with that show if they find at least one character they can identify with.

    And I liked Demo Reel! You need to stop beating yourself up over it. And your mad scientists ^_^
  • Eyeshot
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    I'm the 24th commenter ;) and I can hardly believe Doug and crew made fun of Demo Reels. It was funny, though.
  • Angrier_Jack
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    Man, I freakin loved demo real. I was sad to see the critic go but imo demo reel was a fair trade-off. But no, people just had to bitch and moan until he brought back the critic. Don't get me wrong, I was doing somersaults when I found out through a friend NC was returning, but I just really wanted to see more of DR, I mourned the lost potential there when he wrote it out of existence. Doug, I love everything you do, just wish there were two of you so you could continue both awesome shows.
  • AncientRelic  - YES! Avatar reference!
    Methinks Doug's watching of Avatar will lead to many riffs. That was awesome!
  • Cornered Fox
    Funny ass review NC, I remember sailor moon from my youth, I can remember it would come on... and I'd watch He-Man. Or Toonami.
  • Nykk
    Sailor Moon was ON Toonami. That's where I first saw it.
  • Cornered Fox  - How'd I forget...
    Your right... I still didn't watch it. XD
    Guess at the time it just wasn't for me.
  • gabrieldevue
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    Sailor Moon was really big in Germany. It had it's own pop band, magazines... and stil has tons of fans today.

    Many shows I have rewatched, i could not stand anymore, but whenever i put on sailor moon, i sit here with a huge, stupid grin.

    I despised "Bunny" (how she was called in German) for being so stupid, but luckily, every girl who watched this, had some other character to identify with. The animations blew our minds and we had to wait every day to see the cool transformation animations again - not being able to look them up on youtube whenever we felt like it.

    When I stayed in the US i watched some episodes there and they felt VERY weird. too short, too many interruptions, weird scene transitions.

    Beryl, Zoisite, Kunzite and so on are all fashioned after minerals. And Zoisite and Kunzite were 2 men in the Japanese Original (i think) - they also changed that in German to a Man and a woman. But it was pretty obvious in the German version, that Uranus and Neptun were in love.

    I wish, I knew, why i still like that show, though... I grew out of many things, but especially the 3rd season grew on me so much that i keep rewatching it.
  • animegx43
    The avatar joke made me lol.

    Won't surprise me if we see more of those. XD
  • Samuraiko
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    Oh, Doug, you mad thing, you... and no, I did not watch Sailor Moon.

    BTW - I'm guessing you were the artist for Eureka's cue cards - AUCTION THOSE, DUDE! Those are awesome! Put them up as possible perks for the IndieGoGo thing!

    And that last joke is PRICELESS.
  • Mauropteryx
    You know this show was intended for small girls right?
    Seeing the mini-skirt at my current age is creepy but when I watched it as a 5 year old, I thought nothing of it. I actually didn't notice how young Serena/Usagi was until I tried seeing the Japanese version recently.
    I'm not trying to justify it, I'm just saying 5 year olds can't tell that the character is underage and they're the people watching the show.

    I think the other thing people liked was that the villains used vanity against women while the protagonists had to fight against that. So it involved stories that parents could approve of and girls liked how cute the art style was.
    It also had some interesting characters including two villains who were gay lovers, one of which tries to take revenge when the other dies (at least in the original he dies).

    .And since you didn't bring it up I assume you didn't get as far as the last two episodes so I thought you ought to know....
    in the climax of the first season....

    ...everybody dies.

    They Deus Ex Time Travel With the Power of Love their way out of it but,
    All of the girls; Tuxedo Mask; the cats; Usagi; everybody. DIES. Gruesomely in fact.

    Yeah. Just thought you might be interested to know.
  • Dipper723
    The show wasn't little girls. It was for older children and teenagers, and the fanservice in the show was made to get boys to also watch the show.
  • ToruKun1
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    Sorry, but it WASN'T meant for older kids and teens. The original manga was serialized in a magazine for young girls, the merchandise (transformation wands, makeup, dolls, costumes) were aimed at little girls, THE SHOW ITSELF was aimed at little girls, the fanservice was just an added bonus/gravy. Japanese people just don't insult the intelligence of their kids.
  • TerminalSanity  - Ummm no.....
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    I'll give it to you Sailor moon was primarily marketed to children but calling the fan service made to draw in adolescent boys and men an example of how the Japanese don't insult the intelligence of their children? Sorry no they just don't have same sort of cultural hang ups about sex violence that western cultures do. Cause lets be honest here Sailor moon's ditzy characterization can come off as pretty insulting to the very notion of intelligence.
  • stcerberusengel
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    I thought someone else might beat me to pointing out the target audience. Honestly, I don't even consider the things he points out as fan-service considering the target audience. Although it can be taken that way for the males watching. The choice of clothing is just for aesthetics. All of the sailors have uniforms that resemble female school uniforms from japan. All of Beryl's soldiers have clothing that resembles the boy's school uniforms. And if you look into their back-story, it makes sense why. It was just thematic.

    So, no, it was not meant as fan-service. It was meant to look stylish and pretty because it was aimed at very young girls. The fact that this show found a male audience as well is just an accident and American audiences don't seem to understand that.

    On a separate note, I'm actually kind of pleased with how much Doug seemed to do his research. Though he missed one or two small, but important points, he seemed to go out of his way to learn about the material. Nice job.
  • ohe
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    The thing is exactl
  • BellaWinx  - Dipper723
    This show was very much intended for 10 year old girls. Like She-Ra or MLP:FIM(Both of which I am a fan of)in the west, it grew to have an adult fan base but was very much produced with children in mind. I, literally, fail to see how you would watch this show and think it was for teenagers.
  • Dipper723
    Well in the manga Usagi and Mamoru have sex. How is that for little girls? Also, Toei Animation wanted to add nude transformation sequences to get boys to watch the show, which Naoko Takeuchi didn't like.
  • sunnyl
    Meh, the leotard is sexier than nude anyway.
  • stcerberusengel
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    The manga was more adult, but we're talking about the anime here. But as long as you brought it up, it just comes down to a cultural issue again. From what I know, the Japanese don't shelter their children from the idea of sex as a lot of western cultures do. It's just treated as something that happens. And even the most child-friendly shows (even in America) can have things that adults can relate to.

    Can you point me to the information on Toei's decision to add nudity, because I hadn't heard that.

    It wouldn't surprise me if a studio made such decisions, but from anything I've ever come across, it was just a way to put something flashy on screen. I also seem to remember someone mentioning that Takeuchi was disappointed that Saturn didn't get a transformation sequence, though I haven't found anything to back that up either.

    And on that note...remember also that Chibiusa (Rini in the English dub) has a transformation just like the other girls. Is it also believed that Toei did that to sexualize a 5 year old? And yes, I'm aware of her age in the manga, but again, we're talking about the anime where it is never brought up and she is still very much physically and mentally a little girl.

    No matter what, it still comes across as something done simply for the purpose of putting something bright and magical to look at on screen.
  • Keara
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    because its not quite accurate to say its just for children either oh sure the start of the series is much more milder cause they are much more younger.

    but need I remind you the sailor scouts DIED in this season after a whole bunch of traumatic things occurred like say Darien turing on the woman he loves and through the power of that love finally wakes up.

    so yes its not JUST for teens especially the early stages of it but its not meant just for children either for I highly doubt any parent would let their children watch it given that ending alone and the fact it gets more and more darker and heavier later on in the series and the ending season is the darkest of them all so again its not quite for little girls its more round the age bracket they set with the age of Sailor Moon
  • Shadownukka
    its cause the fan service
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    I know the best formula:muscle packed guys + a lot of sreaming and fighting + a search for some dragons balls = ...emm you know.
  • anathebutterfly
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    Please don't put sexualized pictures up when you're talking about consent issues and human trafficking. I usually watch Nostalgia Critics with my friend and she is a victim of sexual assault so that ruined the review for us. :/
  • Zer0.MediA
    If your friend is offended by "sexualized" pictures, she might want to steer clear of the internet, television, magazines, billboards, and/or public all together.
  • anathebutterfly
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    Random sexualized images are EXTREMELY different than sexualized images in a non-consensual context, though. The non-consensual context is her problem. If you want to make a point about how bad trafficking is, don't add pictures that sexualize it.
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    He did it to prove a point, not make a joke, it's like when shows like SVU show images like that. it's not to ad to the problem, its to show people the problem exists and needs to be stopped
  • anathebutterfly
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    He could have made the exact same point without posting sexualized pictures. He may not have been trying to be part of the problem but his choice in sexualized images only continues the pattern of sexual exploitation. To someone who has actually been sexually exploited, like my friend, said continued pattern is extremely upsetting.
  • ohe
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    It is very unfortunate that your friend is so cripplingly traumatized and has nobody who is able to vocalize the difficulty in a way that makes any reasonable sense.

    I hope some comedy might cheer you up. Don't worry, I'm not trolling, it's not on sexual abuse.

    http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=u0lVbMOMTi0

    Note that the site adds some spaces you need to remove.
  • RavenclawGirl29
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    They aren't even that sexual though, I understand your point, but the pictures he picked were really really tame, half of them weren't even sexual at all, nothing that you couldn't find on the first page of a google image search a lot of major advertising corporations show a lot more risky images on public billboards

    Also considering the source material itself has a LOT of nudity in it such as Usagi and Mamoru being in bed together naked on several occasions (Once on the front cover of the manga) and Usagi fighting the entire final battle completely naked, it's not totally uncalled for
  • ToruKun1
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    Wow, you're an asshole :D
  • Poecilia
    I'm sorry your friend didn't have a warning for that.

    To my eye, the sexualized imagery is a CONTRIBUTOR to those consent issues, and it would do more harm to separate them. It gives people an excuse to call some sexualized imagery "harmless fun", because the worst extent of that same imagery is somewhere far removed. Your friend didn't need to be told this, of course, but most of the world needs to make the conscious connection and decide that it's bad and wrong, and I can see that Doug is helping with that conscientiousness. For the Sailor Moon transformation sequence to be framed by REAL photos of 14-year-old does stress how disturbingly and unrealistically early sexual objectification in society is sparked.

    The fact remains that TGWTG isn't a rigorously reinforced safe space, even with (especially with) this growing conscientiousness. With your friend, perhaps you can watch future videos ahead of her, and then give her the a-okay to watch?
  • Cassmi
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    I'm very sorry to hear about your friend's experience but the world (and entertainment) does not revolve around you or your friend. You can't just kick down the door and be like "you can't show this to thousands of people that don't have a problem with it because this one person does".

    That would be self-entitlement.
  • ducktitswoohoohoo  - re: anathebutterfly
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    If you are going to avoid sexualized pictures, may I suggest a nice cave? Perhaps somewhere on the coast of Norway, where I hear the view is beautiful as the sun sets? Be sure to take some sharp rocks to kill the crabs and seagulls with and maybe learn how to make fire to stay warm at night.
  • diazepam
    I'm sorry about your friend, but if anything remotely sexual, like a girl in a short skirt, sets her off, she needs some serious desensitization therapy. The pictures shown are really, really, tame. Your friend would have to live in a goddamn cave. This website isn't a safe zone. There are no tits or pictures of women getting groped. He just said that they exist. If the fact that BAD THINGS EXIST triggers her, she needs to be admitted to the psych ward because she clearly wouldn't be able to function in society.
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