The Magic Voyage
Tuesday, 12 April 2011 22:55
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04.12.2011 - 22:58 | archiveit
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04.13.2011 - 00:03 | CtuWhy would they do something that shows they know what really happened in history?
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Because maybe then they could make it interesting.
Instead they made it BOIOIOIOIOIOIIIIIING! ...annoying. In addition, and this NEEDS to be said; common knowledge in 1492 dictated that the Earth was round but the ocean was too impossibly big to reach India by sailing West. NOT that the Earth was flat.
Also, Columbus landed in the Caribbean islands and not Florida as is what most people think. I wouldn't be so annoyed by this if the ending didn't show the island turning into frigging Manhattan.
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04.13.2011 - 13:50 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.14.2011 - 12:27 | mrskippy
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04.17.2011 - 02:32 | Johnny User
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04.13.2011 - 16:51 | kiwifruit
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Ok, you do know that CC didn't land in New York or even USA right? He landed somewhere in the carribbean, so both the pyramid, palm trees and tropical climate could be spot on.
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04.13.2011 - 20:06 | JRodHacker
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04.14.2011 - 02:43 | YoJimBobaJoeindeed,it was only the spanish that thought it was flat,but hey spain always was the backward cousin of the europeon nations
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04.14.2011 - 07:55 | ladydiskette
Don't you just love it when they take freaking liberties with historical events in children's shows and f**ck them up against a wall?
Wow, I learned so much today more than my accredited teachers ever taught me! :D
(yeah, I am just going to point out it was sarcasm since its really hard to do that when typing on the internet lol)
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It is true what your saying about Columbus landing on the Caribbeans and that most of his voyages was there. But how can you make that in to a good story about how America was founded if it have no connection to America.:P
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04.15.2011 - 10:49 | MissBlack
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04.16.2011 - 00:19 | ketsudan
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04.17.2011 - 00:16 | LëzenWell, to be fair, there IS no place on our world map simply called "America." Yeah, the Americas (note the plurality) span two continents, North and South, but neither is simply called "America".
Thus I don't think it's really doing any injustice to the other countries of the Americas for "America" to refer exclusively to the United States.
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04.18.2011 - 18:02 | MissBlack
Hm, this depends of how you learn. Where I live, academics consider America as only one continent, the division of north and south (and central) being for speech convenience only. The result is that some people get offended with this terminology. However, the funny thing is that everybody around here still uses it! I guess is easier to say 'americans' than call people from the USA 'unitedstatians' or something :P
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I agree completely with Virgil_theBadassPoet. Columbus's crew sighted San Salvador on October 12, 1492, and landed shortly thereafter. He mistook it for the Indies and continued his quest to find riches. Unfortunately, the idiot never realized it was a New World and kept searching for the Indies. AMERIGO VESPUCCI was the first guy to say, "Duh, these islands ain't got no Asian people, whom we've been interacting with for God knows how many years!" hence, we are named America and not Columbia.
Yes, Columbus was an advocate of slavery. He wrote, in one of his journals, that the Indians were "to be ruled and set to work, to cultivate the land and to do all else that may be necessary... and to adopt our customs."
However, the one of the biggest misconceptions in this movie is this: Christopher Columbus DID NOT SET OUT TO PROVE THE WORLD WAS ROUND. He was in search of the vast riches that the Indies had to offer, a shortcut via water so Spain and the other European countries wouldn't have to deal with all the trade tariffs and land charges, plus warring nations (the route went right through Islamic territory as well as Russian and those are battlefields you do NOT want to cross). He was a money grubbing man-whore and he died in 1506 a disregarded idiot for not realizing that A) the world is round and 2) what he discovered was NOT the Indies.
Thanks to my history professor, Mr. Duncan, for the enlightening lecture on Columbus.
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04.13.2011 - 09:01 | Wermin2A lot of internet history experts here. Watch out !
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04.13.2011 - 18:58 | Jegsimmons
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04.13.2011 - 15:25 | SamhainTheDark
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Heh, only me whou though that a reference to the Master in Doctor Who and the constant noise he was hearing would be fitting at around 06.00? :P
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04.15.2011 - 10:32 | MissBlack
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Murder is an intent to take someone else's life. Bringing small pox to the new world isn't something Columbus set out to do. It's kind of like the guy who released the rabbits in Australia. He didn't intend to wreck the ecosystem there, he just wanted to hunt on his property. Who would have thought 12 rabbits would turn in to millions within a decade? We know this now, but hindsight is always 20/20.
Columbus couldn't have known small pox didn't exist in the new world since it hadn't been discovered by Europeans yet(Well, except the Vikings, but that's another story).
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04.17.2011 - 09:49 | Kallikanzarid
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here's the problem with the dubbing its kinda of like an anime sent to America expect it was rushed and misinterpreted. with an anime you have to get the voice actors to read the translated script. but here it looks like the Germans got the voice actors to read the lines.. but added extra lines to the script cause of our kids Stereotypical attention span at least with an anime its stupid but it can pace its self. in this movie there are times with actors are speaking and the character's mouths aren't even moving this is just a wreck.
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04.12.2011 - 22:58 | Quantum Wolf
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04.13.2011 - 01:43 | rowdycmoore
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04.13.2011 - 02:11 | BooRat
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04.13.2011 - 08:22 | Lotus Prince
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04.13.2011 - 19:13 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.12.2011 - 22:59 | TheDued92
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04.13.2011 - 05:31 | TheBrigeedaRocks
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06.28.2011 - 22:42 | Sheranda
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06.28.2011 - 22:55 | Sheranda
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04.12.2011 - 23:02 | Bullderdash
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04.13.2011 - 08:19 | jawmuncher
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04.21.2011 - 05:05 | doctortanksano
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04.12.2011 - 23:06 | The_Phoenician
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04.13.2011 - 00:01 | OrangeKingAnd they were right, at least in comparison to their existing route. As I recall, Columbus believed the world was smaller than the current (more or less correct) size estimates suggested.
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04.13.2011 - 00:02 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.13.2011 - 00:34 | Telexinwow just another reason of how lazy the makers of this film was
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04.13.2011 - 01:30 | Lucia32Yeah, the argument was never around the world's shape (since people knew the world was round for thousands of years). It was all about size and how quickly you could reach the other side. The whole "Columbus proved the world was round" nonsense was a myth fabricated by Washington Irving and Andrew Dickson White.
The best book on the subject (in my opinion) is "Inventing the Flat Earth: Columbus and Modern Historians" By Jeffrey Russell
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04.13.2011 - 07:02 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.13.2011 - 11:42 | Lucia32Yeah, quite the kick in the nuts isn't it?
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04.13.2011 - 11:59 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.13.2011 - 12:10 | Lucia32So basically this thing is taking place in the same universe as Terry Pratchett's Discworld?
Ugh. Terry deserves better than this!
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04.13.2011 - 12:18 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.13.2011 - 12:19 | Lucia32"Brother"?
Are you saying women can't be Pratchett fans? ;)
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04.14.2011 - 21:47 | Redd
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04.13.2011 - 19:05 | Jegsimmons
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04.14.2011 - 08:02 | ladydiskette
I think in reality they were trying to find a safe route to sail to India for trading and exporting. So that kinda pretty much summed up why the voyage was considered in the first place.
In fact, when he got to the new world and saw the Native Americans, he called them Indians because he thought he was in India. Really Germany, I don't think you are stupid or anything but its not hard to make a children's movie out of that.
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04.15.2011 - 09:56 | hvakrgAnd didn't Alexander get his a** handed to him in India?
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04.12.2011 - 23:06 | TheAngryAnimeAddict
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04.12.2011 - 23:07 | pap64
In before "YOU JERK! ANDREW DICKMAN ALREADY REVIEWED THIS AND HE DID IT BETTER YOU ASSFACE!" :p
But in all seriousness now, I never noticed how noisy the movie was until Doug pointed it out. This is a very common problem in a lot of dubs: they stuff the film with a lot of comments and noise in order to make it active.
That happened in the movie Doogal as well. It's a British kids' movie that was re-dubbed for American audiences, and it too was very noisy. Characters HAD to say something or make a noise in order to be "funny".
It really does feel like a desperate attempt to capture a kid's attention.
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04.13.2011 - 09:18 | whatever42
You are definitely right in this being a common problem, especially in dubs, but this was on another level. Even in other bad dubs they tended to shut up at some point. From how this movie looked, it NEVER shut up and I think I would be far too annoyed to make it through this movie, at least in one sitting, without Arnold's help.
Obviously, this was a bad, stupid movie. Good job getting through it and making it as entertaining as it could be Doug.
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04.13.2011 - 10:08 | QuestionTheMajority
I was about to say something along the same lines. Doug's comparison to a Popeye short was probably more accurate than he intended. The original Popeye cartoons had very little scripted dialogue because the cast of voice actors were all comedians who were well known for being good at improv comedy. They just let the actors do what they were good at by throwing out silly one-liners and joking amongst each other about what they were watching on the screen and it worked. I have a feeling that's what happened here as well except that Corey Feldman is clearly no Jack Mercer.
Also, while on the subject of Popeye cartoons, I just have to go on record of saying that the oldest black-and-white Popeye cartoons were usually very funny and clever while the leap to color apparently meant they were only allowed to use the "Bluto and Popeye fight over Olive" story again and again and again and AGAIN!!! Urgh. Sorry. Just had to get that out of my system.
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04.13.2011 - 13:39 | pap64
I love Popeye in both B&W and in Color (though that TV series, the one from the 60s and 70s, were abysmal).
The thing is that the creators of Popeye were aware that the story was minimal and they wanted the improv.
This HAD a story and set concept. Couldn't they just localize the original script? Again, its as if they feared that kids would get bored and wanted the constant stimulation just to grab their attention.
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04.12.2011 - 23:08 | Dark Crow I
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04.12.2011 - 23:10 | SpeedyEric
I am relieved that you didn’t compare the annoyance of this film to things like Jar Jar Binks and the Autobot Twins, because they are Einstein campared to this.
1:25- Idea and Story by Ure Koll? I just hope that isn’t a fake name for Uwe Boll. If it is, I wouldn’t be surprised.
I first knew about Mickey Rooney from his cameo in “The Simpsons.”
I really love your Grinch joke, along with the rest of the noise, noise, noise, NOISE, NOISE, NOISE, NOISE NOISE NOISE NOISE (insert Arnold clip) …sorry.
10:04- That’s stupider that the ending of “The Geek.” You know; that Bigfoot porno that The Cinema Snob reviewed.
10:21- I wonder if there was any psychiatry help in 1492.
My God, the animation on this thing is really, really bad, and that includes Columbus’s dream sequence. I’d rather see the rapping dog from the Titanic musical again than this animated form of WTF.
14:27- It’s been a long time since you said that, Doug. =)
This is one of the worst animated films based on history I have ever heard of. It’s like if my history book from high school was written by a 70s hippy.
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04.13.2011 - 13:29 | BATZARRO
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04.15.2011 - 22:32 | SpeedyEric
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04.12.2011 - 23:08 | Katze
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04.13.2011 - 02:18 | BooRat
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04.13.2011 - 12:01 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.12.2011 - 23:12 | TheTannedOtaku
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04.12.2011 - 23:13 | NadiaZeta
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04.12.2011 - 23:15 | Esteban
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04.13.2011 - 00:43 | TheAngryAnimeAddict
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04.13.2011 - 09:47 | SlyDante
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04.13.2011 - 12:04 | TragicGuineaPig
I agree, Sly. The reason they got rid of them seems to have something to do with someone complaining about all the thumbs down people who make critical comments (not necessarily insulting comments, but negative none the less) kept getting.
Also, maybe to address lazy trolls who just like to thumb everything down.
I think that bringing back the Thumbs Up button would be nice, though.
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04.13.2011 - 19:09 | Jegsimmons
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04.12.2011 - 23:16 | jcwainci dont remember this one from my past
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06.28.2011 - 22:58 | Sheranda
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04.12.2011 - 23:16 | EarthboundXE
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04.13.2011 - 00:47 | Suren2
Nostalgia Critic in HD? I approve.
I had only ever heard of this movie before. No intention of ever seeing it, since I hate watered-down stories about Christopher Columbus that hide what a genocidal prick he actually was. I recommend reading the book "Lies My Teacher Told Me" if you really want to know about Columbus.
Mickey Rooney will always be Flip from Little Nemo in Slumberland to me.
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04.12.2011 - 23:22 | GameKeeper28
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04.13.2011 - 00:27 | The Hardcore Kid
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04.13.2011 - 23:02 | Jade_Ottsel
"Not true, check out movies like Felidae or Jungledyret Hugo. They're good films."
Felidae, I'll agree on...however, "Hugo"...ehhhh.....the comment that THAT movie is good, that's all a matter of opinion. The english dub especially, where the characters, MUCH like this one, NEVER SHUT THE FUCK UP. >_
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04.13.2011 - 02:20 | BooRat
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04.15.2011 - 14:44 | tencowbrigadeProtip: avoid blanket statements like this, especially in regards to animation.
If I remember correctly, Plague Dogs and Watership Down, both amazing movies, were made in Europe.
It truly depends on the company, really.
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04.12.2011 - 23:22 | Grimfang
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as a non-American, this is the most inaccurate POS i have ever seen in my life.
I mean, how can you fuck up Christopher Columbus? It's basically one of the easiest parts of history, and you fuck it up?
This film should be a manual on how not to fuck up a historical retelling. I know it's for kids, but kids needs proper history in order for them to relate to academically.
ANd seriously, Italians during those days do not sound like Italians today. Atleast have a British voice for Columbus instead of Don DeLuise.
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04.13.2011 - 00:59 | JachraWhy on earth would we use a british voice for a Genoese man?
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06.28.2011 - 23:12 | Sheranda
Could we ever really know how people sounded in the 1400s? For all we know, the Italians could have sounded like Australians speaking a dead Italian dialect.
Also, Christopher Columbus's name was really Cristobal Colón.
And another thing: when Cristobal landed in America, he thought it was India, which is why Native Americans are STILL called Indians. It was Amerigo Vespucci who proved it wasn't India.
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04.12.2011 - 23:26 | BassmasterSo according to this movie, New York City is in the Bahamas? And the Native Americans spoke English BEFORE the English even came to the New World? I feel so enlightened now...all that I have learned as a history major has now been challenged by this movie...
Great review as always Critic. Keep up the awesome work.
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04.13.2011 - 02:23 | BooRat
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04.13.2011 - 13:23 | PhunkyPhazon^ To make it even more confusing, it seems like the movie does get something right by having Colombus land in an area populated by Mayans, but THEN you get actual Native Americans and New York City being built in the area. So yeah, great job on the history there, Germany.
Oh, and Columbus died still thinking he had just landed in Eastern Asia instead of an entirely new continent.
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04.12.2011 - 23:50 | Wiseguy20You mean Elephant?
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04.13.2011 - 14:14 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.15.2011 - 10:47 | MissBlack
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04.12.2011 - 23:29 | Woodland SpenceGreat review as always Critic, great review.
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04.12.2011 - 23:32 | e33lafI guess the makers of this film never knew that the Ancient Greeks had already figured out that the Earth was round...IN THE FREAKING 5TH CENTURY BC!!!
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04.12.2011 - 23:54 | snakes3425They also didn't know the Vikings got to America about 400 years before Columbus
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04.13.2011 - 00:06 | e33laf...And the existence of L'anse Aux Meadows is concrete proof of that fact.
Stuff like this is why a little research goes a long way.
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04.13.2011 - 02:23 | BooRat
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04.13.2011 - 11:48 | some-other-guy-with-glassesNot to mention that Columbus never set foot on American soil; in 4 trips, he landed in the Bahamas EVERY FRICKIN TIME.
Seriously, we do NOT need to commemorate Columbus for jackshit.
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04.13.2011 - 14:21 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.12.2011 - 23:32 | Cloudie
Ahh, Magic Voyage, this movie is probably the reason why I have a problem with watching historical films lol.
I hate to point out, but I thought that the natives in this movie were AFRAID of the swarm, and were glad to be rid of it. Not that they worshiped it... I just assumed the swarm just happened to have taken over the temple containing the idol.Ehh, whatever. Not like it's important lol.
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04.13.2011 - 23:57 | trlkly
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04.12.2011 - 23:33 | Fangheart
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04.12.2011 - 23:39 | Esteban
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04.13.2011 - 14:16 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.13.2011 - 02:25 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 23:36 | draider90
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04.12.2011 - 23:37 | crazyseandxthis review was so much of an epic win that chuck norris has cried happy tears and may never do so again.
QUICK!!! GET THE BUCKETS!! WE NEED THE TEARS FOR CURING CANCER AND whoop too late he stopped -_-
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You do know that Columbus "discovered" America as in the continent, right? Not the United States. He first hit a handful of caribbean islands.
The natives portrayed as aztecs or whathaveyou are still wrong, but only because there's no way there were constructions like that in those tiny islands where no massive civilization could develop. Also because they wear feathers like the stereotypical US native american do.
I mean, seriously... that's an historical inaccuracy as big as a woodworm being the one who told Columbus that the Earth was round.
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He landed in the Bahamas, not North America. Shame on you Critic, shame on you. You're here to point out inaccuracies like that, not purpetuate them!
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04.13.2011 - 01:36 | NitrinoxusHey, in his defense, the crotch-oscope was far more deserving of ridicule than the lack of factual accuracy.
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04.14.2011 - 12:12 | AwatierzI sense Top 11 Nostalgia Critic Fuck Ups 3
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04.15.2011 - 13:25 | Maxwell_34I also do ^^
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04.13.2011 - 00:50 | Moomoof
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04.13.2011 - 19:38 | ZodiacNo, didn't you watch the movie? The natives thanked Columbus for saving their lives from the dreaded Lord Swarm. A great hero to the natives! Why would Columbus thank them?
Also Columbus discovered Manhattan.
He also had a worm smarter than everyone on earth because he figured out the world is round and NOT the Greeks.
And the firefly people were wiped due to retardation from cross breeding.
I also loved the fact that Columbus was a worthless low life but discovering America made him rich and famous.
The whole point of Columbus' journey was to discover gold in new land, man, I thought the history books said he was trying to find a faster trade route to China.
Man, this movie is so edumacational.
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04.13.2011 - 19:41 | VotZ