If there is any animated movie on this earth that I absolutely despise, it's “The Secret of NIMH 2”! It is the most God-awful piece of crap to ever be drawn my human hands. And, ever since I started watching the Nostalgia Critic, I couldn't wait the day when Doug would review this cesspool of a movie. And now that day has come!

“The Secret of NIMH” was, and still is, one of my favorite movies. So, naturally, when I saw this on the video store shelf, I jumped at it. When I put it on and watched it, however, I felt my childhood AND my mind being savagely violated by the serial rapist known as The Disgusting Sequel! I was so bad that it pissed me. I started to complain about it from that point on...and I was 12!

It was awful then, and it's awful now. But, in my opinion, you missed out on only one very important joke...the MOUSE CREDIT CARD: 12:14. However, the Timmy and the Brain joke, and the Fargo reference made up for it. That was so wizard!

Thank you, Nostalgia Critic, for finally giving this movie the review it deserves, blowing it up with the Death Star, and for confirming everything I've been saying is wrong with this movie: http://tinyurl.com/NIMH2. And may God have mercy on your soul!

From the moment I discovered the Critic, I had wanted him to tear this movie a new one. However, I had sufficiently blocked enough of the movie out that I didn't realize what horror I was wishing upon my fellow man. Forgive me, Doug.

Guys... I'm sorry but happened to her parents, again? Did they get saved and I missed that part? Or did they ... well, burn to death, along with the humans-turned-dogs?

In which case... Why in the world is she so damn happy?!?

Wow, completely forgot about that plot point...*goes to watch movie, to see if it's addressed*

...nah, not really.

Actually, he kind of acknowledged that in an earlier review. He, then, said that just because it's a children's show doesn't give them the right not to try.

I had to watch this movie after this review so I Hulu-ed it.

Oh Sweet Chinchilla Jesus, is it worse than the review lets on. Not only is this 78 minute movie stuffed with songs for no reason, but NC's point about Timmy doing nothing is absolutely true. He doesn't "single-handedly save" ANYTHING. The most he did was leave his post TWICE to get everyone into danger! THAT SHOULDN'T COUNT AS SOMETHING.

If anyone is the hero of this film, it's his wedged in love interest Jenny. She risks her life to escape NIMH, find Thorn Valley, escape from Thorn Valley, go back to NIMH and she is the one who technically stops Martin! She has more balls than Timmy is supposed to have AND HE'S A DUDE. Don't even get me started on his "brilliant improvising" when it comes to sending Martin's army away so they don't get to Thorn Valley. If anyone deserves a statue(besides Mrs. Brisby), it's her.

I'd also like to note (unfortunately) that it's Harvey Korman voicing that Frankenstein-looking cat. There's even a typo in the credits where Mr. Ages is called MRS. Ages.

What the crap movie?

What the effing CRAP?!

wait wait wait wait.
Did you just call something so wizard?

Damn, King. You REALLY hate this movie! O_O

On a side note... I have only heard legends of this POS, but I hadn't seen any part of it until now. Why did they make Timmy the hero? My guess is, they wanted to go for the more conventional story about a young person (usually male, but I won't make this about sexism XD ) who has to save their society. And the songs... Oh god, the songs! D8 But the ultimate question is: Why did they make this movie so bright and cheery, when the dark and serious nature is what drew people to the original film in the first place? Going for the conventional animated film again, perhaps?

On a side note, did anyone else notice that the girl mouse had boobies? lolwut

Yes! I do hate this movie! I wrote an 7,000 word review about how much I hate this movie. On it, I list the top 25 things I hate about it. Here's a link if you're interested (not trying to take away from this review, cause Doug's review is one of the best reviews of this movie I have ever seen...period) http://tinyurl.com/NIMH2

Also, I did notice that Jenny had boobs. It's on my list of 25 things I hate about it. Good catch on that.

7000 words?! Dayum, I hate The Last Airbender movie more than life itself, but I don't think I could write a 7000 word essay on how much it sucked! You hate NIMH 2 more than the WBC hates gays and American! D8

lol rat tits i was gonna point that uot but nvm

Agh, this movie... Okay, so I never watched the first movie, but when I saw it top your list of underrated classics I looked it up on Hulu and was BLOWN AWAY. So, before watching your review, I subjected myself to this sequel first hand.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!

Really, it should have been obvious from the start - it's the sequel to a good Don Bluth movie, it can't do anything but suck. But what really pisses me off about it is that they had a whole story lined up after the end of the first movie of the rats leaving the farm and traveling to their promised land - Land Before Time style - and they scrapped it in favor of this second rate horsesh*t.

Seriously, they could have said: "Hey, Don Bluth, you want to make a comeback? Well, we're combining one of your most beloved movies with one of your other most beloved movies. We can really make something special and noteworthy for all of your old fans to enjoy and show their children, and prove to Pixar that 2d animation isn't dead yet." But then they didn't.

Its just said, they could have done something with that scene where Timmy sings about not ever knowing about his father and wishing he could have known him and bonded with him better. Maybe even making it a touching and heartwarming scene that speaks to all children out there who have lost fathers and/or never grew up knowing thier fathers. Something that they could relate to and not feel alone...



BUT NO! You just had to skewer it with a horrible emotionless song. *flips the movie the middle finger* >:(

I feel bad for you dude.

God spared me to never see this godawful sequel.
I had no idea they made a fucking sequel until i discovered this on this website.

I resaw the Secret of Nimh and it took me back. Such an awesome and dark movie. But what the fuck is this shit

*sigh* Well, you know, anything to rake in more money, I mean look at Shrek, could we possibly be staring a "Shrek 5" in the near future? God, I hope not.

I dunno which moment I laughed the hardest: The 2 TGWTG mad scientists "hi-jacking" the movie or the movie becoming a Pinky and the Brain reject.

By some dumb luck I was able to catch it on my local CN recently and your points were the same as mine: bad to worse. I wouldn't have had a problem if they just kept it "bad" but that so called twist just killed it for me.

BTW, I knew that female rat sounded familiar. It's Starfire!

From Teen Titans?!

Hynden Walch is the girl mouse? *rewinds video* HOLY CRAP I CAN HEAR IT! Now I'm just going to have flashes of that show in my mind when I watch this review. That also explains something. I watched this when I was little and got really scared because I didn't want anything to happen to Jenny. NOW I KNOW WHY! The voice actress is that awesome. Ralph Macchio didn't do a HORRIBLE job either. One thing I have to say in this movie's defense is that the dialogue isn't horrible. It's not Shakespeare, but it's also not Lucas, so...there you go.

I never saw this movie, but from the looks of this review, Jenny is the one who saved everyone. She escaped NIMH and came to Thorn Valley for help, she was the one who decided to go back and valiantly face NIMH on her own to save her family, she was the one who took out evil Martin with a book. So, er, what exactly did Timmy do to get a statue again? Besides tag along after the girl? Are rats just sexist?

Also, considering the lengths Mrs Brisby went to save her boy in the ENTIRE first movie, the idea that her OTHER boy could just disappear and she'd have nothing more to say about it than to dash off a quick note to Timmy is... is... well, insulting. :

Wow, I never thought of it, but that is some pretty big character derailment right there. O_O What, does she hate Martin or something? I mean, considering all she did for Timmy in the first movie...

i freakin agree....im just surprised that the one who created the secret of nimh ,don bluth, had no say in the creating of this movie or even said hey people let's put alittle effort into making a part 2 please but instead he's saying WTF people! this is not how i envisioned PART 2 was gonna be like or better yet ..I didn't want part 2 to begin with or have anything to do with it.....YOU PUT THE SECRET OF NIMH TO SHAME WITH ASS RAPE OF A SEQUEL!!!i cannot wait til the nostalgia critic reviews CareBare's 2 and even as a kid i was forced to watch this movie....the torment i mean to be honest it was alot better than the first but i betcha he is gonna question alot of things even towards the very very very beginning portion of the movie ...and I'm gonna lmao the entire time ...still this is his work..

Yeah, she's actually in a lot of things.
The Drew Carey show, Gurren Lagann, The Batman, Soul Calibur 3 and 4, Lucky Star, Kids Next door, Catscratch, Viewtiful Joe...
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/Hynden_Walch
but yeah, I was shocked to hear her voice too.

come on insano, i know linkara stole neutro, but did you really have to write secret of nimh 2 in revenge? low blow insano. low blow.

He had to keep himself occupied somehow inbetween plotting world domination and repairing CD-I's. Unfortunatly, this movie was the result.

I really didn't expect NC would make a lot of protections before this movie begin and I still how this movie is wrong.

that's what makes NC so grand

I think when Jesus’ parents had that “talk” with him, they neglected to tell him that he’d be returning to Earth as a talking lion voiced by Liam Neeson and/or the greatest pirate who ever lived, Bloodbeard Joe.

They couldn’t afford to change the business cards because all the funding went to making sure the thorn bush was remodeled to resemble the Na’vi Hometree.

I like how the rat girl at 4:23 is very similar to the singing rat girl from the American Tale series. And singing about cheese candy… yum.

Harry should never have returned to Hogwarts. Even Dobby tried to warn him, but of course the little fuck had to go back because he hated his fat—yet safe—uncle. And what happened after that? After a chain of events, Dobby is now dead. Way to go, Potter.

I wish my destiny were to be a whistle blower. Though life would be boring, it’d be much simpler that way. Or not.

I have a question for Mr. Owl – how many licks does it take to get the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? 5? Oh, you meant you want $5. Fuck you, Mr. Owl. Go pluck your own eyes out.

I was gonna comment on Martin’s, er… transformation? But your reaction just did it for me. No words — just right. That, and the Insano-Smith moment was hilarious. Figured Dr. Insano would be the brains behind this… thing. I am surprised there were no mention of “a league of spiiiiders.”

Ah yes.. Timmy and the Brain. I see you got in touch with the Animaniacs guys again, huh? :P Only they could really pull this one off.

Overall, this movie woulda been great if they had just had Splinter make a cameo appearance. That coulda been the saving grace of a dumb sequel. Oh, and Jerry from “Tom and Jerry”. Makes that shit legit, yo. How? I dunno. I’m just tryin to think like Insano…

Quick note: The statue of father and son almost has Timmy’s face in his dad’s ass. “Smells like Limburger cheese back here, dad!

You know what you shoulda done? Had the movie get hit with a Care Bear Stare. Total annihilation.

no no the whole destruction beam from Star Wars was good enough... *me's forget what it was called all i know its called a destruction beam that blows up planets*

but yeah the care bear stare would had just made the movie still be there but made it somewhat worse for the NC to tolerate....

I wonder what's gonna happen after sequel month .....is he gonna do CRAPPY LOVE MOVIES month?
that be awesome ....i have such a list of fuckin waste of time movies for him to review... THESE movies were suppose to implicit what love truly is but really its quite the opposite .... IT SUCKED MONKEY BALLS!!!

I have to greatly agree with the comment at the about Miss Brisby's statue. In the first movie, she survives being a captive in a human home, tries to uncover a mystery and decipher and conspiracy, and the biggest one of all...SHE SAVED HER KIDS FROM DROWNING. She nearly lost her hands as well! It's sad that few people acknowledge her as a great character as she is simple, yet at the same time complex, a hero and a victim in her life.

I wonder if Disney's seemingly endless intentions to flood the market with direct to video sequels inspired them to create this movie. NIHM is popular, sure, but I doubt anyone was begging for THAT movie to get a sequel.

Anyways, excellent review, Doug!

I couldn't agree more. 1 thing, though. This isn't a disney movie, it was made by MGM animation.

He didn't say Disney created it, he just wondered if Disney pumping out direct-to-video sequels inspired MGM to make this abomination...

Good job Doug!

I remember reading the book that the original movie was based on, back in seventh grade. It was pretty good, but I never actually saw the movie. I also read the sequel, "Racso and the Rats of NIMH", and it blew ass.

Can't wait to see Care Bears 2! Taste the rainbow, muthafucka!

Let's sum this movie up:THIS MOVIE IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PIECES OF SHIT THAT HOLLYWOOD SHAT OUT!!!!!That good enough?

did i see a mouse credit card in that mix of gifts for the "owl"?

im a bit surprised there was no "of course" when mice taking over the world was brought up

i was also kinda hoping for another crowbar fest on this movie but o well

i had almost forgotten what happened in this movie...and now im sad that i was reminded

this thing turned out to be another one of those movies where everything would've been just fine if nobody did anything from the start

A MOUSE CREDIT CARD?!?!?!?!?!?!

Good spot, man. I totally missed that while being distracted by the all the sucking.

Thats all I can say im sorry you has to see this movie

So were the humans left to die in the laboratory? We never saw anything or were told anything about them during the whole description about the rescue.

Also I thought you already did this review, Doug.

http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=kZNu9Hj4LQc

Tried to find that and I got a 404 message.

Delete the spaces in the URL. When you post a link in Compojoom (at least for TGWTG's settings), it puts spaces in the links. Security measures, see. When you paste the URL in the address bar, make sure all the spaces are gone.

On a side note.. wow, that guy really does not like Doug. O_o Ah well. He'll get over it.

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure they just let the humans burn.

It memory serves, the humans-turned-dogs escape during the fire when some firemen showed up (I noticed Doug cut A LOT of the subplots out of this review). The firemen's reactions pretty much amounted to "...the fuck?"

Do you think he cut the subplot because he loves us that much ? Wants to protect us from bad movie ? (don't think so ;p, just wondering)

I actually had the misfortune to see this before the Secret of NIMH...I thought the original must suck until Saw it on your top favorites and watched it.

Dido

That's right; I didn't win. Doug's the winner. I just told him to review this movie on one of my emails I sent him. And it worked; wow, I hate and love myself at the same time. lol

I love Eric Idle and he's probably my favorite Python after John Cleese, but more videos on this site than I care to remember have me repeatedly asking, "WHYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!"

Probably the saddest part is that this isn't the only terrible sequel he's been in. I can't decide whether this movie or National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 2 is worse - but honestly, there's no point in comparing two pieces of shit.

Great work, NC! Can't wait for next week. 8-)

He was also in Shrek the Third, along with John Cleese --SPOILER-- whose character died in that movie. That made me so angry.

0:31- Now THAT’S what I call preparing yourself for a bad movie. I should keep that in mind next time I see “Skyline.”

5:21- There IS a difference; Hogwarts is a school of wizardry, and this is a school for mice that feels like a school for muggles.

10:21- ENOUGH WITH THE PADDING!!! There’s enough here to keep me warm tonight.

11:41- OMG, that’s one of the most funniest thing I’ve seen you do as NC, Doug. It's right next to the Bat Credit Card. (Ducking for cover before you hurt me)

I was also thinking about “Pinky and the Brain” when we find out that Martin turned into a made scientist.

I heard that this film is bad, but I didn’t think it was …awkwardly bad.

I like how you use footage from Star Wars in 2 episodes in a row. It must be a record for you. B)

And finally, great idea for both Dr. Insano and Spider Smith to make a cameo.

"awkwardly bad" is probably the best way to discribe that movie :)

Thanks, dude. ;)

Poor critic! This movie sucked! (Sorry Linkara) I remembered the songs when they played (to my shame) and everything about the plot and character development (what little there was) totally punched my nostalgic favorite in the face. A better sequel might have been the story that the original author's daughter wrote (Racso and the Rats of NIMH), thought that was pretty weird too. Gah, just terrible. What some people won't do for sequels...

{sigh} I just know I'm going to get thumbs down for being such a dorky nerd, but, Harry Potter actually DID do something to deserve all that treatment. He brought down the most powerful and evil person in the world, remember? I thought this was well known. Timmy, yeah, Timmy didn't do anything, all he did was sit in bed with pneumonia, but Harry Potter pretty much saved the entire world at age 1. so....yeah. go ahead. thumb me down for being such a nerd.

People who request a "thumbs down" automatically get a "thumbs up" by default. We don't give 'em what they want. =)

I wasn't requesting it, just predicting it. I was being pessimistic I guess.

Again, technically it was his mother who brought Voldy down by sacrificing herself to save Harry. But no one builds statues to women in boy-messiah stories apparently.

I am nerd-girl, hear me rawr.

But they did build a statue, didn't you read HP7? and no one really knew what happened on that night except Voldy and Harry. The ministry and statue building people didn't know it was Lily who did the sacrificing. from the world's point of view, Harry defeated Voldy on his own, even though that wasn't the case at all.

LOL I still love the fact that Doug was talking crap about Hogwarts! FINALLY SOMEONE AGREES!!!

And then the mouse turns into a mad scientist and betrays all his friends… GENIUS! THIS IS A WORK OF GENIUS!!!

lol Dr. Insaino (or however you spell it) is a fan of Jon stewart

You realize the reason Harry survived said curse thing was basically "the power of love/sacrifice", right? At least that's certainly what they insinuate and say in the first movie, I dunno if the books had a more legitimate less cheesy explanation but yeah, his survival didn't really have anything to do with him being powerful or chosen.

God I've never even read any of the books, why do I know this anyway.

nah, that's pretty much the same reason in the Books. sacrificing your self for some one you love puts a shield around that person that protects them from the person your protecting them from.

man, this is getting a little out of hand. why do I get the feeling this topic just might, MIGHT turn up in Doug's next "NC fuck up" episode?

I think another f-up added to the list would also be why the crow is charging. Crows like shiny things.

crows are cute they always look at/try to eat something that isn't associated with them, like a bagel ? ^_^

No. Just put it on the Just Bugs Me page on TVTropes.org.

Harry survived the spell cause of his mother's sacrifice. He no longer has immunity to it or any other evil. He's an average wizard at best and has severe social and emotional issues which prevent him from maintaining normal relationships. I'd say he turned out rather badly given his "hero" status. x.x

Ummmm, what the hell are you talking about? In what book or movie were these alleged social and emotional issues displayed? In the books I read he has strong friendships with Hermione, Ron, most of Ron's family and gets on quite well with most of Gryffindor even after the Ministry runs a smear campaign against him in book 5.

On top of that it's established that he gets good marks in most of his classes except potions, where the teacher clearly can't stand him and Divinations which most of his teachers (save the Divinations teacher of course) don't think is important anyhow.

Finally at the end of the story he's happily married to the girl he loves, maintained most of the friendships he developed at Hogwarts, made the world safe from the Death Eaters and even got over his feud with Malfoy.

I'd say from the information that's ACTUALLY IN THE BOOKS, he did rather well for himself.

Okay... Dr. Insano + Spider Smith working on a movie together= Win!

That was too funny!

Also the ending was good too with the Care Bears.

Great episode!

Not being able to sleep has it's advantages :)

Timmy to the Rescue? He didn't push the book on Martin's head.

Loved "The Pinky and the Brain" joke.

I know, right?! Fail!

I hate how sequels ruin great stories! For crying out loud!

Anyway, you've destroyed one DVD copy from the public's memory, but you still got millions left....

NIMH may have been a little slow paced at times, but it had enough story and interesting enough characters to keep interest. This movie was just... eugh. Every character is severly out of character, and all of the crappy songs make it impossible to take seriously. To top it all off, the twist is just so ridiculous that it makes the movie bad all by itself.

This second movie doesn't even have anything to do with the original book series. I mean, the second book is Racso and the rats of Nimh, not Timmy is the uuber god of prophecy. It's about Racso and Timmy destroying a dam, plus Jenner finally has a more interesting role in events in the valley. This movie, however... can only be best described as fail.

NIMH was one of my absolute favorite movies growing up, I'm 25 and still have the VHS I got in the 2nd grade. It's one of the earliest examples of animation in my life that inspired me to draw.

I'm glad that even as a child I recognized how much of a piece of crap this sequel was and avoided the hell out of it. What an awful, awful attempt to cash in on a great classic.

At the time of the sequel, I was almost expecting "American Tale 3: Feivel in the Future" because of the epicness of the first two. So they gotta make that one movie to fuck it all up.

You bring up a good point. I'm surprised he didn't review any of the American Tail sequels. Or perhaps he's saving those for later.

As for NIMH 2. WOW, I knew this movie was probably pretty crap, but JESUS! It's as if they went out of their way to make the worst possible sequel they could. You know what the worst part is? Of all of the movies set for sequel month, this is the one that could potentially have had a decent follow-up.

I actually had to pause the video when they revealed that Martin was the villain, and the only thought that immediately came to mind was, "why is he British?"

Say what you will about the American Tail sequels, at least the singing in "Fievel Goes West" was halfway decent.

As sequels go, Fievel Goes West was actually pretty alright. I remember being absolutely in love with the song "Dreams to dream" from that movie as a little girl.

To Gligarman, good pick up on the accent. That's a bit of a face-palm.

My personal favorite of that was the Raw Hide parody they did when Fievel was traveling in that tumbleweed.

Secondly Fievel Goes West had some good animation despite it being a sequel.

Haha, I remember that.

I actually enjoyed the American Tale movies. I'm just saying, I'm surprised they didn't make a third one.

clearly you don't watch as much kid's TV as I do.there are like 5 or 6 American tail films. one a Don Bluth Classic,two,and not horrible straight to video film,and tw-4 tv movies(I've lost track) I remember for sure at least the treasure of Manhatan,and some mystery involving newspaper monster or some shit.

Whereas the musical numbers in this atrocity are so forgettable that Doug doesn't even bother to really acknowledge them (save for Timmy's off-key singing once). I love how he didn't even think they were worth putting in his end credits, as if to say "Yeah. That's how much they suck. I don't even dare speak their name, because it might somehow give them power. Screw 'em." =P

And very catchy at times! Especially his sisters up beat songs.

Ask Dr. Insano that one. A pretty common cliche appears to be that any time someone turns evil (particularly Mad scientists) they develop a fake, at least slightly British accent. No one's really sure why, but I think that it's because it just makes you sound smarter. To sound truly evil, one usually takes up an Eastern European accent ranging from German to Russian.

Yeah....I never took the time to notice that.
Prime Example: Doc and his evil scientist personality O'Mally.

Always with the British accent, but you have to admit. It sounds delightfully evil.

I am curious on how many people here have seen Red vs Blue to understand that analogy. Thankfully I have, and you are right.

Thank you. I just found it weird that my favorite O'Mally voice was when he was in Doc. Considering that his voice would vary depending on the person he took over. When he took over Tex, it just sounded scary as hell.

In that case you could argue that thats just the voice the AI was givin. Like how gamma has the voice of microsoft sam haha

Oh dear lord his voice, despite being robotic still had a hilarious personality to it......You dirty dirty shinzo hahahaha

God I loved gamma. Also loved the Marathon reference RedvsBlue made

there is a third American tale dude its called the treasure of manhatten island and trust me if you liked 1 and 2 dont watch this one. *twitches*

Good review as always :D

Dr. Insano is far more evil then I could have possibly imagined...

I'm surprised that you haven't mentioned that the "parade people" gave Timmy a key that's so "special" he shouldn't lose it... and when he finally has to use it to open a cage he's locked in he just used a nail because the key broke or something... wtf? xD

Wait a minute, they gave him a really important key to make him feel special, only to have it wind up being broken & useless for the kid...Oh my god, they friggin' recycled a bit from the Care Bears Movie!!

DAMNIT!! Now you made me remember that God awful movie.