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Bum Reviews - The Hobbit
Monday, 17 December 2012 19:40
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12.17.2012 - 19:42 | Darkcloud1111
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12.17.2012 - 21:57 | Rising Advent
Better question: what happened to the Doug reviews?
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12.18.2012 - 01:34 | GrenMonk2Doug and Rob do their own review show now called Sibling Rivalry. It basically makes up the Doug parts of Bum Reviews. Except there's also Rob there, who differs from his opinions, as we all wish we could from time to time.
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12.17.2012 - 20:11 | Neo Ultra MikeHe sold it to Donnie Dupree for a ham sandwitch because DOnnie tricked him into thinking they needed to film in their for Chester's Christmas movie idea.... what? Makes as much as as most things on this website.
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12.18.2012 - 00:13 | Cassmi
In their what? In their house? In their studio?
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I don't mean to sound like nerd here, but the reason why there were trolls walking around during daytime in the LOTR trilogy was because Sauron used his dark magic to cover the sun. There's a line Return Of The King that explains it.
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12.18.2012 - 03:13 | Dragonflame
Also the trolls of Return of the King are a crossbreed of Uruk-Hai and Trolls which dont get turned to stone in daylight.
They still dont like it though, same with the orcs, thus the cloud of darkness.
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12.25.2012 - 12:33 | DargonWell, yea, spending most of your life underground would make you somewhat adverse to things like sunlight, fresh air, trees, etc.
Kinda like computer nerds, only with better fighting ability.
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12.17.2012 - 20:36 | JoeDawson15Finally!!!!! Thank you chester, i'll e mail you 10 bucks for this!!!
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12.17.2012 - 20:37 | yersifanel
Just FYI, those things that happen in the movie and "were not in the book" are actually in the "Appendices" book, that intercalates the events that happen in the Hobbit (among other stories) while were are not seeing a character, like that scene called 'The White Council', that was Gandafl talking with Elrod, Galadriel and Saruman.
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12.24.2012 - 01:34 | pinky75910
Yeah, but the appendices don't really count, as they weren't referenced in the main part and were written after the Hobbit was published.
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12.31.2012 - 14:35 | Bauglir100Two words: Retroactive continuity.
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12.17.2012 - 20:38 | richtv
so great to see a traditional bum review again!!
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12.17.2012 - 20:41 | zenfrodo
Where's Doug's "real" review?
(but omg, this had me ROFL'ing...)
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12.17.2012 - 21:04 | richtvsee Sibling Rivalry
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Okay so I have a theory.
Doug, after reading the fourms for the last few weeks finally had a psychotic episode. He sat weeping for days. No one could console him. Then a tiny spider floated down and asked him...
Spider: "what's wrong champ?"
Doug: "no one likes my show!!" *continues to sob in hands*
Spider: The spider offered helpfully, "well maybe you should listen to what people are telling you?"
Doug: " I...I tried but...they keep changing their minds! Everything I do and touch turns to shit!!" *continues to sob piteously*
Spider: "What a pussy." *sakes head*
Doug: *narrows eyes* "Fuck you!!!~~*stammers*~~..and ...and ...your a motherfucken Spider...wtf do you know about anything???!!!!"
Spider: "Look all I'm saying is this, you should have the balls to do what you want, even if some people may not like it." *The spider lesighed and shruged*
Doug: *looks thoughful* "Perhaps your right, maybe I need to just do what I think is good and let the chips fall where they may! Yes, let my work RING TRUE into the GOLDEN HALLS OF POSTERITY FOR ALL TIME!!!!" *Strikes epic pose*
Spider: "Are you serious?"
Doug: "No."
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If that were me I would be like "Ahhh a talking spider!" and then smash it with my shoe.
But then, that is what I do to all creepy-crawlies that appear beside me, whether they talk or not.
That probably explains why I don't get helpful advice on things. >>
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A lot of people may be confused. For those of us that have forgotten the Hobbit; Radagast (the wood wizard) is not the shape shifting bear man that gives the company shelter before they enter Mirkwood. That man's name is Beorn. Just thought I should clear that up before people start saying Radagast was in the Hobbit.
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03.10.2013 - 19:02 | jz1337He was mentioned wasn't he? I also thought he was still the one to tell gandalf about the necromancer (coughcoughsauron), and then Gandalf runs off to deal with him. Not sure who told him though.
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12.17.2012 - 20:58 | thekhan
Can you really call Gandalf "stereotypical" when he was one of the original inspirations for the "stereotypical" wizard character? That's like calling Superman a stereotypical superhero - it was original back when it started!
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12.17.2012 - 22:56 | Fangheart
...you realize the concept of a traditional Wizard is like, hundreds of years old right? God, I really hate it when people think Tolkien was the first person to ever use stuff like Wizards, Elves, Dwarves, Swords, Sorcery, etc.
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12.17.2012 - 23:49 | PlayMp1
Tolkien was the first to unite many of these concepts in a single fictional universe. Also, while the traditional concept of a wizard is fuckin' old, most modern fantasy takes a lot of cues from LOTR and The Hobbit for how to portray a typical wizard.
To use TVTropes terms, Tolkien is less of an Ur Example or Trope Maker than a Trope Codifier.
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12.17.2012 - 21:02 | 94MICK19The Eagles aren't mere animals that can be summoned at random. They are their own faction, as in don't have to get into anything they don't want to.
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12.17.2012 - 21:12 | Zenn3kBest Bum in awhile, had me rolling.
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12.17.2012 - 21:17 | JoeDawson15Glad to see you back Bum.
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12.17.2012 - 21:20 | MoonSagi
That's why I was disappointed that they had no lines in the movie. Not a bad movie, overall, though.
Also, GARGOYLES REFERENCE!
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12.31.2012 - 14:38 | Bauglir100There's still the extended editions, plus the other two movies where we could hear them talk.
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12.17.2012 - 21:26 | Kossmeister
The reason why dragons like gold is because they have a soft under belly and gold sticks to them, so they sometimes use pieces of gold as armor. Also, male dragons like using treasure to attract mates.
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12.31.2012 - 14:43 | Bauglir100I don't know where you got that last bit, but dragons are naturally attracted to gold. If it's shiny and has value, dragons will go straight for it.
And Smaug was probably the only dragon that exploited gold that way; All the other dragons didn't bother protecting their underbellies with armor.
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Tom Bombadil is not a good character and is a WAY bigger plot hole then riding the Eagles ever was. Having a character that can hold and use the ring without any influence undermines the entire set up of how dangerous the ring is. When the ask him if he could help he doesn't have a good answer as to why he can't. Tom Bombadil was rightfully left out of the movies.
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Tom Bombadil gives a perfectly reasonable explanation of why he can't help. His powers are only useful on his own land. If you read the silmarillion, you'll see that it was already predetermined that the devices of Sauron would fail, so Tom having authority over the powers of the ring (on his own land only) didn't change anything. The wisest character in the book, Gandalf, also addressed that plot hole by explaining that even Tom Bombadil's powers couldn't stop the forces of Mordor. He stated that once all else had been taken over, Sauron could overwhelm Tom Bombadil and take the ring.
Furthermore, Tom's chapter contributes to the story by putting something truly good in it and gives the readers a breath of relief after all of the suspense that came before it. After all, if there is nothing good to fight for, then why fight?
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12.17.2012 - 21:41 | glaurungthegold
Loved the story and the charaters, but thought there was way to much cg.
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12.17.2012 - 22:35 | ReckoningReviewer
Ah good, finally this review. :) Great one again, really entertaining. Now hopefully we'll see Doug's review of it, probably in the next Sibling Rivalry.
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12.17.2012 - 22:45 | TolkienOtaku
"Though shalt not mention Tolkien and Twilight in the same sentence."
Unless the context of said sentence is clearly a joke.
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12.17.2012 - 22:53 | Fanghearthey, comparing Tolkien Stuff and Twilight makes just as much sense as comparing Twilight and Harry Potter......I.E. no sense at all.
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12.17.2012 - 23:05 | lamecasuelas
i loved the movie! and bum's review!
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12.17.2012 - 23:17 | ManWithGoodTaste
Why 3 movies? Because Hollywood.
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12.18.2012 - 03:10 | DragonflameAnd because they are adapting some of the expanded material which was only mnetioned in the hobbit, most prominently the necromancer of Dol Guldur which is what the scenes with Radagast and Galadriel set up.
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12.17.2012 - 23:18 | DesotowrightOh my God... what if Edward's skin really IS mithril? O_o
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12.24.2012 - 01:37 | pinky75910If so, I'm hocking him for a suit of armor.
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12.28.2012 - 22:01 | Greenjackspeaksthat miiight explain why the twilight craze is so hard to kill.
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So you're still doing bum reviews, which aren't very good to be honest but no more nostalgia critic, oh the irony.
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12.18.2012 - 03:44 | MrThorbjoernI can tell you why Tadagast and the white council were in this movie. As you said yourself once: Show, dont tell. You have to us different ways for a movie. What works for a book doesnt mean itll work for a movie. in the book its only mentioned. In the mobie we see it happen. Fine for me.
And te eagles... I always thought they are kinda deus ex machina, and kinda politicians. You know? when the world is lost they just...fly away an stuff... No need to endanget themaelves.... An i dont think there are that many left too.
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Spoony pointed out why you can’t simply having eagles fly over everything in the lord of the rings in one of his counter monkey episodes no idea why they didn’t just do it in this story.
Let’s face it the only reason they need Bilbo with them is because they need a medic.
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12.24.2012 - 01:37 | pinky75910Bilbo's a medic?
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12.18.2012 - 04:42 | tiffanybride
Yay, classic style Bum Review!
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12.18.2012 - 06:42 | Jane the Bane
You know, most of the added scenes in "The Hobbit" are actually to be found in the appendices to the Lord of the Rings, as well as in the Silmarillion: and while they're not part of the original novel, they do add a lot of context to a tale that was formerly only very tangentially related to the rich history of Middle Earth.
Sure, part of the decision to turn this project into three films instead of just one was to squeeze more money out of it. But I, for one, am quite happy to see more of the Council, the Necromancer, the corruption of the Great Greenwood, and the Wizards than just the scant references provided by the original novel.
Oh, and I might be one of the few Tolkien afficionados who did not miss Tom Bombadil at all. That whole episode always stood out like a sore thumb, disrupting the narrative flow without adding anything significant to the larger context of the tale. It's a disjointed mess.
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12.27.2012 - 04:42 | sunnylNo they're not from The Appendices, I thought they would be before I saw it, but they aren't.
Its all made up for the movie, almost completely rewriting the history of the dwarves and The Necromancer in order to compress hundreds of years into a few days.
For starters Azog is supposed to be dead, not in the first battle of Moria, but in a later one when Thorin and Dain sought revenge for Thror's death and Dain slew him before the gates.
The meeting wherein Saruman attempts to dissuade action against The Necromancer took place centuries before The Hobbit.
Gandalf entered into Dol Guldur, which was not a ruin, to investigate the necromancer, found Thrain there and got the key and map from him.
The meeting of The White Council to force out The Necromancer happens at the time of the Hobbit, too late to stop him, and its urged by Saruman who wants to force Sauron away from the Gladden Fields.
There's a lot more changes too, and every time they change something the movie is less good than the book.
And as the first half of The Hobbit is rather weak, that is saying something.
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12.18.2012 - 07:32 | Mousy Voice
I can't believe that The Hobbit is being separated into three movies. I'd understand if they divided it into two, but three movies is just a money grab.
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12.31.2012 - 14:49 | Bauglir100You do realize that they already put a shitload of money into these movies, right?
And it's fan-service, not a cash grab.
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01.13.2013 - 00:32 | aaron419It was supposed to be just two movies "An unexpected Journey" and "There and back again", but for some reason, the movie companies wanted more money, so they put "The Desolation of Smaug" right in between the other two
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