This is a good idea. I don't know a lot about movie or comic art, so this might be interesting.
Artist's Alley #1
Sunday, 22 August 2010 20:15
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08.22.2010 - 22:26 | holycow81
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08.22.2010 - 23:18 | nakamine
That Zuul print is awesome sir!
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08.23.2010 - 19:13 | whatever42
I would probably pay a bit of money for the Zuul picture, because I also think it is extremely awesome. =D
Seriously though, this is a nice idea Doug. There's a lot of awesome, relatively unknown talent out there and it's cool that you're giving those kinds of people a bit more of a chance to shine. I look forward to seeing more episodes of this because all those artists were quite good. =)
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08.22.2010 - 23:19 | Torchic91
Tom Servo is a decepticon?! I knew it!!!
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08.22.2010 - 23:21 | stargate12
I usually walk by the artists alley type areas. I'll probably pay a little more attention when I go to Dragoncon next month.
I get why Doug is so interested, what with his background as an illustrator. This must be a very interesting corner of every con he goes to.
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Finally, someone who's from Ohio on www.thatguywiththeglasses .com. Not that I'm from Ohio. Because if I were I wouldn't give that information away so easily on the internet. That would be like me saying my first car was a beat up blue miny-van.(Pause) So, I'm not from Ohio. THERE'S A MILKMAN WAITING IN THE SKY HE LIKES TO DELIVER DAIRY AS LONG AS IT'S HAMONGENISED. THERE'S A MILKMAN WAITING IN THE SKY HE DRIVES AN OLD RUN DOWN MILK VAN AND HIS MILKS BEEN PASTURIZED. HE TOLD ME; LET THE BOVINES CHEW IT, LET THE BOVINES GROOVE IT, LET THE BOVINES BOOGY DA, DA, DA, DA, DA, DA ,DA, DA, DA ,DA ,DA DA, DA... (and so forth)
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08.23.2010 - 20:26 | wolfenstien9000
that's a little mean since im from Ohio but I do have to agree with you
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08.22.2010 - 23:25 | ToMRThank you so much, Doug. There are so many talented artists out there whose work goes unseen and unappreciated. As an artist myself, I salute you.
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Really that is really good artwork. I wish I could draw like that, really impressive. Except for the whole shirtless guy thing, not my cup of tea. Just like with those gay werewolves in Twilight.
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08.22.2010 - 23:27 | zomboy2
Nice! Now you gotta do something like that for the title card artists of TGWTG. We get no love T_T
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08.22.2010 - 23:27 | ninjatyler42
pie :eyebrow:
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08.22.2010 - 23:27 | PublicEnemy
I am in full support of this serious =D
I've never gone to a convention, so seeing something like this is awesome to me, and I'd love to see more of this
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08.22.2010 - 23:28 | Blue_Dawn
your just great dude. yeah all the art is amazing i went to my first and was wow'ed
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08.22.2010 - 23:48 | FullmetalNinja25
Got me interested in a few new web comics as well as following some of them on DeviantArt, great video Doug!
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08.22.2010 - 23:50 | SoanGreat new series. It's nice to see some art appreciation!
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08.22.2010 - 23:50 | RedRook
Truly Truly awesome. I don't go to many cons anymore but I used to go to Otakon religiously as I live in the area and used to be big into Anime. I gradually drifted away from Anime but continued to go to the Con just to see the Artist alley. There are tons of great, great artists who get almost no recognition and a series based solely around those Artists, I find personally, very awesome. Here's hoping you, or other Channel Awesome members, can do more of these in different cons in different places all around because there's a lot of really good stuff around that can be hard to find if it isn't pointed out.
I salute you and this segment. Thank you.
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08.22.2010 - 23:57 | Friend Of Irony
Growing up in the SONIC BOOM of anime in North America, I've seen my fellow peers go through both the "tracing anime images" approach to "art" as well as buy how-to guides to "drawing manga".
I find that, with any convention artist's alley, there's a unique mix of fandom/genre appreciation and an artist's individual style. It's not like you're simply seeing someone's sketch on DeviantArt; you're seeing both the labourer of their art as well as the results of their labour.
I'm excited to see more of this segment, Doug. A different twist to your usual content, but welcomed none the less.
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08.22.2010 - 23:57 | cartoonguywalky
This is a unique idea that I look forward to seeing more of.
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08.23.2010 - 00:06 | axlryder
it's kind of weird for me as an artist, because as I improve I can actually start to see more and more flaws in other people's work and can better determine the quality of that work. That being said (and no offense intended) but there didn't seem to be very many good artists actually displayed in this video. It's not that I'm saying they aren't talented or that I'm so much better (I was actually granted the generous title of averagish by my fellow professional artists), but I am saying that many aspects of their artwork are either unrefined or undeveloped, e.g., anatomy, line work, style, etc. I noticed the same thing when I went to ACEN as well. I think it mostly results from artists being self taught and then falling into bad artistic habits that soon become staples of their artwork (It wasn't until I became colleagues with some very skilled people that I realized I was doing the same thing). Still though, definitely some really accomplished people mixed into this vid.
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08.23.2010 - 00:41 | Toreka
Everyone has their own art style and their own perception of good and bad art. I think some artists who get into art and start to learn the technicalities see things in other people's art that goes against what they're taught and get too critical.
In short, what some see as flaws are often times signs of unique styles or acquired tastes.
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08.23.2010 - 02:10 | axlryderWhile you are right about style and personal taste often conflicting with a person's perception of "good art", I can guarantee that there is often times a clear difference between style and flaws. A good way to tell is when an artists is forced to draw something that requires a basic amount of skill or knowledge in regards to something like, say, perspective. Another way to tell is to see how consistently the artists draws. Also, while some would call it style, if an artist's bodies are simply deformed looking, it's pretty hard to play the style card when there is little aesthetic or creative appeal to back them up (which isn't always the case with deformed anatomy).
I worked as a caricature artist for a long time, and I haven't seen many other places where you can get that many artists to do the same exact job while using such wildly different styles. The point is, however, that after a while you begin to differentiate between an artist personal style and where they simply need to improve.
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08.23.2010 - 02:34 | TorekaHonestly, I can't see where you're coming from in this particular case. I see very few pieces of art that need much improvement in this video. Either I'm completely out of touch with "good art" or you're being unnecessarily harsh to a bunch of talented artists who are trying to get noticed.
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08.23.2010 - 03:30 | axlryderIf you'd like me to do a point by point on the video than I guess I'd be willing to do so, but I'd prefer not to unnecessarily look like an even more pretentious douche bag than I'm sure I already appear as to some. Also, "good art" isn't something you can get really get out of touch with once you've gotten in touch with it. It's not as if the quality of art changes with the culture.
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08.24.2010 - 14:06 | HichcootNo, sometimes flaws are flaws, no matter how you see them.
That's a really, really negative aspect of drawing manga... A lot of people would make mistakes in the anatomy and such, but they would say ''that's my style'' and get away with it and never improve the anatomy... I have seen it happen
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08.28.2010 - 22:55 | TorekaYou said "sometimes" flaws are flaws and I said "often" times they're signs of unique styles. Often does not mean always.
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08.24.2010 - 14:02 | HichcootI know what you are saying and I agree... not that people in the video were bad artist or anything. But I have seen a lot of those illustrations ideas before. . . If you have a page in DA you would know what I'm saying
Like, you can go to a festival that has artist and there's always the girl drawing guys without t-shirt, the Chibi person, the Yaoi/Yuri Girl, the person that only draws fan arts and the worse kind, the person that goes to Deviant Art and steal a lot of pics to sell them.
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08.23.2010 - 00:00 | sonicchica
Oh wow, I can't wait to see more of this now.
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08.23.2010 - 00:00 | Dragoniangirl
I actually watch a couple of these people on DA. It's nice to see them in person... well, sorta. Artist Alley is always my favorite place to go to during conventions. ^^ I look forward to seeing more of these from more conventions.
[size=x-small]And also hoping I can get featured in one. >.>[/size]
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08.23.2010 - 00:02 | pap64
Now this is a great idea for a show. Not only do we get to see Doug in a different light we definitely get to see great art that may otherwise go unnoticed.
I loved the "ZUUL MOTHERF*CKER ZUUUUUL!" drawing at the end. XD
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08.23.2010 - 00:06 | Punky
wow this is great! Loe the cute artwork :)
Gotta check them out! thanks Doug ^_^
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08.23.2010 - 00:07 | Ryuutakeshi
Doug, if you read this, you gotta feature Zach Morris' N. Bison pic he did of you that you signed in Ohio. Seriously, that would totally make his day. This is of course assuming you have footage of it. The picture is on his Deviantart account Willdrawforfood if you need it.
No, I'm no Zach, but I'm a friend of his.
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08.23.2010 - 00:20 | TheDramaticMonarch
As someone who's about to dive into the Artist Alley/convention scene very soon, this was such a treat to watch.
On a slightly more serious note, one of my favorite things about the convention scene is checking out original self-published works and prints and chatting with the people behind them. I think this is a really cool way to spotlight some unknown and upcoming talents so I'm in absolute support of this series. =D
Hee, I totally recognized some of the artworks in this video. [size=x-small]Yay "Saiyuki" fan art![/size]
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08.23.2010 - 00:26 | Annie-Mae
This is a nice tribute man. Good idea and really helps these people out. I'll admit that some of their ideas are kinda out there but really any publicity is great. Thanks for doing this for all the artists.
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08.23.2010 - 00:31 | TrencherAwesome idea and very interesting to see.
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08.23.2010 - 00:33 | cubs2084
That was very interesting. Hope you do more of these!
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08.23.2010 - 00:38 | BedinsisI wonder if Marobot will appear in one of these videos.
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Well... although all of that fanart you got was really cool and stuff (especially that last one), I am really, really sick of people drawing generic manga subjects in the generic manga style; even if there are some variations, and they put a ton of effort into the artwork (which is clear that they do), it all looks very same-y to me. Plus a lot of those plots of those comics don't interest me; pretty much anything involving feudal Japan, aliens, parasitic symbiotes, or any fantasy elements (particularly with female protagonists) has been done to death. That all being said, that comic at the beginning did seem relatively interesting (although I'm sick of pictures of female manga characters naked with wings, or wing-shaped objects), that comic about the aliens had a very interesting alien design, and a few pieces of art were original and not just "moar manga plz." I'm not putting down anybody's hard work, it's just not my thing (it would be if every single "artist" didn't do it).
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08.23.2010 - 02:56 | pap64Well, in all fairness, this is an anime convention. People that are there most likely want to buying artwork reminiscent of manga artwork, so can you blame these artists for trying to appeal to them? Yeah, this doesn't excuse their apparent lack of variety, but considering that many of them do this for a living they need to appeal to the fanbase at times.
Second, I wouldn't be knocking their stories until you read them. Cliched, I know, but many series have very bland and generic descriptions but are told very well. Of course I know this is all mostly fan work, but don't underestimate them. There have been some fan series that are very well made.
Finally, the "generic" manga style is that, a style. Sure some have super deformed it while others created a hyper realistic take on it but all follow a general guideline that makes the style distinctive from other artwork. It's like the "Disney" style or the "American Comic Book Style": all have put their spin on it, but generally follow the same rules.
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08.23.2010 - 04:47 | DryAh, thanks pap64 - I keeped wondering why every artist there was drawing in 'Manga-style' and was curious to know if that was a trend that all artists in America now follow.
Tho enjoy reading Mangas, I am hoping that there is more diversity in the next generation of comic books. I don't know why so many people chose that style and I put it down to that it was especially easy to draw.
Thanks for clearing that up!
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08.23.2010 - 06:33 | pap64In all honesty, as a hopeful writer myself it can get pretty hard to write a fully original story since it all eventually leads to the same stories we grew up on. It all lies in how the story is told, which often makes or breaks an original story.
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08.24.2010 - 14:28 | HichcootThe thing is that drawing manga is not that hard to do... ( also is not that easy )
But a LOT of people seems to be into that style. . . A LOT, so that's why you see a lot of generic stuff... like that Samurai comic thing... I mean I don't know how the plot goes, maybe it could be really cool, but the design ans setting... I have seen at least 17 other stories like that and I'm not kidding!
And drawing chibis has to be one of the most generic things to do! go to an anime convention and you could see at least 20 people drawing them and looking almost the same!
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