My Problem with the Tenth Doctors Regeneration

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  • Ratin8tor
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    I remember watching this vid back in the blog section before you got all famous :P

    But yeah, you bring up a really going point. It was much more like the line was for the fans than for the Doctor; and did give Matt Smith a much harder hill to climb

    Which is a shame, cos Matt Smith is fantastic.
  • Crunchy_Frog
    It was already up in the blog section? Oh thank god. I thought I was having a deja vu experience because while I watched it I thought, "Hey, wait, I have seen this before recently."

    I feel I must both agree and disagree with you, Welshy.

    I agree that the handling of Ten's regeneration may have created problems, from a purely technical standpoint concerning the series continuation and fan reception of the transition between actors. On the other hand, as you pointed out there was an era coming to an end, with a complete change of creative team, actors, characters... so I'm not sure we can simply pin this on the Doctor's regen.

    I must admit though that I liked Ten's regeneration; maybe not so much the final scene itself, with his Infamous Last Words, but all the questions that had been raised thoughout Ten's time in the series.

    I had always felt vaguely bothered by the nonchalance with which previous incarnations of the Doctor treated the concept of dying. Because, although all incarnations share the memories of the baseline personality they inherit, which turn them into "The Doctor, a Timelord", even prior to Ten we have seen that the different incarnations of the Doctor and the Master are, by themselves, individuums, differing in their tastes in music, fashion, food, the way they speak, probably even food allergies or brain chemistry.

    Only during Ten's time as the Doctor, the writers finally put a finger on this elephant in the room, with episodes such as Human Nature/The Family of Blood and Journey's End. The point that while the incarnations share memories, they are not the same person. Speaking as a transhumanist, I would call the entity known as "The Doctor" an emergent personality complex, of which the incarnations are aspects or facets.

    It reminds me of the Trill in Star Trek. A joined Trill (a human host physically and mentally connected to an alien symbiont that lives within the human body and preserves memories) is treated as both the same person, yet also as a succession of human individuums with individual tastes. To the extend that when a human host dies and is replaced with a new one, it is frowned upon for the new host to stay in contact with the previous host's marriage partners, children, circle of friends, etc., even though the symbiont preserves the memories of all previous hosts, including their emotional responses, and telepathically shares them with the new host.

    [continued below for space reason]
  • REBELComx
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    You had seen it before... So is this a case of Deja Who?
  • JackofAntics
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    Before I get shot, I do like David Tennant's run as the Doctor. I don't like the fact that now a lot of people are considering him as the golden standard of the Doctor period. Also some hardcore Tennant fans can get pretty scary or just be aggravating.

    After watching the Matt Smith's first season, I went back and watched the rest of the new Who. It really did feel like a underhanded punch to Smith with Tennant's farewell. Which is rather unfair since I love both of their performances. Though with how Tennant's run ended with "I don't want go" makes lean towards Smith now.

    Also, I don't know what to think of Tennant now that's engaged to the actress who played Jenny.
  • Divide By Zero
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    Rofl, puts a whole new spin on Time Crash!

    (Georgia Moffet is the daughter of Peter Davison, who played the fifth Doctor.)
  • jdh1271
    I'm just getting into Doctor Who but I do have to agree. David Tennant was great but his regeneration was lame, he did seem pathetic and I don't take it out on Matt Smith, I take it out on the writers.
  • Divide By Zero
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    I remember watching the DVD special features for that episode and the various takes they did of the "I don't want to go" scene. There were pretty much three versions, one where he sort of mentioned it like an afterthought, this one, and one where he completely breaks down. I have to say, of the three, I liked this one the best. It's sort of an acknowledgment of how attached many of us were to the actor, as well as how much Tennant himself loved the part, but doesn't have him uncharacteristically lose his nerve.

    David Tennant is still my favourite, but I've got a lot of love for Matt Smith's version too. Contrarily I had quite the opposite reaction to Welshy with his arrival. I'd known for a loooooong time that Tennant was going and was looking forward to having to suffer through a painful transition, but when it actually happened I found myself caught up in the new Doctor right away.

    Anyway you look at it, Smith's introduction was going to be a VERY tricky one. Tennant was wildly popular and chose to go out on a high. Smith had some big shoes to fill, and it was never going to not be a sad moment when Tennant finally left. I think acknowledging that was the right choice.
  • kevin_video
    I don't agree. I loved Tennant a LOT. He brought a new amount of fun to the series with his high energy, and charismatic ways, but I did like how he went out.

    I'll explain myself. The Doctor was told that he was going to die. As in, die die. As in, regeneration won't save him this time. The doctor can't die, but given who he was up against, and the odds against him, it looked like he was going to perish completely from existence. You could really feel his emotion when he knew he'd gone to far in the Mars episode.

    When Tennant's character died, I honestly thought this was going to be a SERIES finale, not a season finale. When Smith's doctor came into fruition, I felt a huge wave of relief.

    I don't know who to blame for anyone's interpretations of how that episode went, but that's how I saw it. The good Doctor was going to die, and there was nothing that could be done about it. So when he "came back" in Matt Smith's body, and was exclaiming that he was alive, albeit in trouble from the Tardis pretty much going down in flames (which btw added all the more realism that the Doctor was truly going to die completely in a series finale).

    That's my two cents, and how I saw it.
  • Crunchy_Frog
    It was already up in the blog section? Oh thank god. I thought I was having a deja vu experience because while I watched it I thought, "Hey, wait, I have seen this before recently."

    I feel I must both agree and disagree with you, Welshy.

    I agree that the handling of Ten's regeneration may have created problems, from a purely technical standpoint concerning the series continuation and fan reception of the transition between actors. On the other hand, as you pointed out there was an era coming to an end, with a complete change of creative team, actors, characters... so I'm not sure we can simply pin this on the Doctor's regen.

    I must admit though that I liked Ten's regeneration; maybe not so much the final scene itself, with his Infamous Last Words, but all the questions that had been raised thoughout Ten's time in the series.

    I had always felt vaguely bothered by the nonchalance with which previous incarnations of the Doctor treated the concept of dying. Because, although all incarnations share the memories of the baseline personality they inherit, which turn them into "The Doctor, a Timelord", even prior to Ten we have seen that the different incarnations of the Doctor and the Master are, by themselves, individuums, differing in their tastes in music, fashion, food, their quirks, the way they speak, probably even food allergies or brain chemistry. (Technically, even sexual orientation or gender identity could differ, heck, there's no reason why a new incarnation shouldn't be a different gender altogether, but I doubt the series will go there with the title protagonist.)

    Only during Ten's time as the Doctor, the writers finally put a finger on this elephant in the room, with episodes such as Human Nature/The Family of Blood and Journey's End. The point that while the incarnations share memories, they are not the same person. Speaking as a transhumanist, I would call the entity known as "The Doctor" an emergent personality complex, of which the incarnations are aspects or facets.

    It reminds me of the Trill in Star Trek. A joined Trill (a human host physically and mentally connected to an alien symbiont that lives within the human body and preserves memories) is treated as both the same person, yet also as a succession of human individuums with individual tastes. To the extend that when a human host dies and is replaced with a new one, it is frowned upon for the new host to stay in contact with the previous host's marriage partners, children, circle of friends, etc., even though the symbiont preserves the memories of all previous hosts, including their emotional responses, and telepathically shares them with the new host.

    [continued below for space reason]
  • Seraphem
    I really had no problems with his regeneration.

    Yes Ten was the only one I can recall that didn't accept it, and seem to actively try and fight against having to do so (IIRC Two also had some issues, but that was because it was being forced on him by the other Time Lords) but remember, he'd just recently pulled his "Time Lord Victorious" spiel, and started ranting about why should he sacrifice himself for one human before ultimately saving Wilfred, never before has The Doctor had to think twice when it came to saving himself or saving someone else. Which makes his rather un-Doctor-ish last words a bit easy to swallow, he started acting less and less LIKE the Doctor towards the end...

    ...dare I say he possibly starting acting a bit Valeyard-ish?
  • kyrieeleison
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    Great video, though I had to pause and rewind a few times to catch all the little bits, like the Doctor's likes/dislikes.

    I only started watching Doctor Who in January of 2010, and blazed through the Tennant seasons in about a month. By the time I got to End of Time, I was hooked and still very much infatuated with Tennant. So yes, I cried when he left, and didn't want him to go either. But I don't feel like I was "supposed to" dislike Smith, though after those few seconds I did write him off as a bit wacko. It could have just been my love for Doctor Who in general, but I wanted Smith to be great. And thankfully, he is. He's even threatening to overtake Tennant as my favorite.
  • thundafive  - My disagreement
    Some of the points you made have merit, that it would make it more difficult for matt smith, I disliked him myself but now enjoy his portrayal. My disagreement is however in that the way he went out was mishandled. Most other regenerations, have indeed been met with a smile, or at least a resolute disposition. But if we think back to doctor number two you'll remember he was very against his forced regeneration, he didn't believe it was his time, and fought it. We also must take into consideration what the tenth doctor represents, which "yes i know you hate rose" is loneliness that is the core of this doctor, the lose of his people, the lose of rose, donna, River and even the master beat the feeling into him with every loss suffered. Ontop of that, he was one of the few doctors to regenerate alone, I think only the first did the same. So what we saw was not pandering, rather we get to see the raw doctor, no one to be brave for, maybe all the incarnations have felt this way, but put on a brave face. Even the new doctor has said "It hurts every time." So what I take from this regeneration is rather seeing the doctor from an angle previously unexplored, you can't blame the writers for how the masses handled it. I have more to say on the subject and if you take the time to read this I'd be more than happy to discuss.
  • Crunchy_Frog  - [addendum to the above]
    [continued....]

    Has it ever been explained in-series where the different bodies for the Timelord incarnations actually come from? Sometimes a Timelord regenerates into a younger form, sometimes into a body that is already relatively old. (I've not seen all episodes of Doctor Who since 1963, nor read the novels and other spin-offs, that's why I have to ask.)

    What if the persona of John Smith that we see in Human Nature/Family of Blood is the original persona of the tenth incarnation, which emerged when Ten subtracted all memories of Timelords, time wars, space travel and galactic history?

    My point is that I found is realistic that not all incarnations may share the view that dying means just a change of face. Because it clearly goes a deeper than that. Ten's line about how after a regen, a stranger wearing a new face saunters away with his life struck me deeply.

    To put it another way: If it was possible to preserve all the personal memories and knowledge of skills acquired throughout a person's lifetime in a computer file, and then use technology to imprint this into another person's brain, while deleting the other person's memories but not skills or quirks, would the result still be seen as resurrection of the original person? Maybe if you imprinted the memories into a perfect clone body of the original (let's for a moment pretend that clones as perfect copies of an adult person as seen on SciFi are biologically possible). What if the original was still alive?

    On the one hand, the Doctor says "I fought in the Time War", not "Number Eight fought in the Time War". On the other hand, when incrnations of the Doctor have met each other throughout the series' run, they're still distinct personalities who merely happen to be connected via a personal timeline.

    It must be very weird being a Timelord.
  • Crunchy_Frog
    That said, I must admit I do not like Eleven, but not for the reasons you mentioned. I remember that it took me a while to like Ten, because right in the first Christmas Special in which he appeared, after the regen from Nine, the character's actions pissed me off royally, because the script writers pulled a "the Doctor is always right, even when he acts selfishly, because he is the Doctor, and everyone else is wrong" and I felt the character might develop like Captain Janeway and drift into Mary Sue territory.

    So it's not because I'm a Ten fangirl, or anything. (I'm too old to be called a girl.)
  • joe england
    I heard a lot of that sentiment on the Gallifrey Base forums, but for my part I thought it was an absolutely agonizing and poignant regeneration. Many people said words to the effect of... "Oh, he was such a whiner, why couldn't he have put on a stiff upper lip and been noble about it like all the others?" And that, to me, just rather misses the point.
    For one thing, I thought it really highlighted what made that Doctor unique - something you just don't get when every Doctor reacts basically the same way. By playing it differently, it shows how Tennant's Doctor was his own man.
    During his run I always missed Eccleston's commanding presence, but now I find that David's more youthful and lighthearted approach made for a more powerful climax when he finally was moved to genuine angst. So I'm more appreciative of him. It adds weight to the concept of regeneration, it's more now than just a "change of appearance."
    So yeah, I think it fit him to a T. Many other Doctors end on an up-note... serene or thankful or gently irreverent, or they rest in quiet surrender. And there's nothing at all wrong with that. But really, most people don't die that way. Because we cling to our lives, because we love living. And never has there been a Doctor who clung so tenaciously, who loved life so much that he railed so fervently against its end, even if it was merely the end of this version of himself. A man who lives in such a way would live forever if he had the chance, and if not, he would fight to live even to his last second. There is no crime in this. There is nothing selfish in joie de vivre. To love life is to love all things in it. It makes his sacrifice all the more noble, since it is perhaps harder for him than for any of the other Doctors.
    And you know, I think he did accept it, at the last. And in the midst of this acceptance, his final words are even more a fitting declaration. He does not want it to be over, he wants to keep going, he wants to have fun and adventure and explore and show off. With his last breath he tells the universe that he still wants to be him, that for all his mistakes he still loves who and what he is and that he would go on if he could. He says that he is still alive, still embracing life even to the very end.
    What could be more inspiring?
  • Alar
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    I can't help but agree more. I think this is really the feeling that was intended here. I hope Welshy reads your comment, sir!
  • themrginger  - My Problem with David Tennent's regeneration
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    Hey but at least Matt Smith was awesome enough to keep us on bored for the series. I didn't like the regeneration of the tenth either. I actually did like the reason you didn't like it with the doctor saying those words. I thought it was a nice sentiment and sort of a wink to all those people who didn't want David to go and thought it was because David hated the part after playing it for so long. I didn't like it because it was pretty forgettable for me. The Doctor spends half most of episode slowly dying from radiation poisoning and does so much to please the fans like saying good bye to so many people but the thing is it doesn't have the impact of losing such a great doctor like the Chris's regeneration had. Chris's was fast but it was more memorable with it's good delivery and acting and with him going out on such a noble cause. David's Doctor went out heroically too but he did seem to be angry about going out heroically in the this situation. He didn't seem as selfless about going out to save another life this time which I feel should always be a trait every doctor should have. I think David tennent deserved more but when your talking about making a good bye to someone who is widely known as the best Doctor ever it's got to be a really big task and I think they could have done a lot worse
  • Ashoten2021
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    OK. So this explains why he takes FOREVER to regenerate and say goodbye to every single character he met as that doctor. I thought it was kinda silly. Although I wasn't crazy about the newest doctor at first he has really grown on me. This also explains why we haven't heard a thing about Rose this last season.
  • G_Unit
    I honestly I did like how he went out, and it wasn't outside of his character to leave that way either. He had been running from his eventual death for a while. In fact Ood Prime comments that he was late showing up which only further compounds the fact to show he didn't want to die. While all the doctors might have the same memories and such they each have their own personalities. The ninth even commented on this before died that he would be different but the same.

    Now is the reason for the doctor's departure the reason why some fans were alienated from the eleventh? No, it isn't. To be honest you always lose fans of a series when there is a changing of the guard like this. I have friends who preferred the ninth doctor to the tenth. They really didn't watch the show after the change. Even if David Tenant did go out like "champ" like you said they would still have lost fans over the whole issue.

    It is just how fans are. They are pretty fickle when change comes about. Especially since David Tenant was the doctor for as long as he was.
  • soldierstar
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    I didn't see it the way you did, I saw it as a tip of the hat to fans who really loved David Tennent's Doctor and were upset to see him leave.
  • punksweets
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    Ironic echo anyone from The Lazarus Experiment when the Doctor tells Martha that "This is the way the world ends: Not with a bang but a whimper" kind of makes the Doctor look pathetic compared to Others who took there "deaths" in such stride making them look more heroic for it.
  • EvilAshTwin
    I liked David Tennent as The Doctor, I thought as an actor he was brilliant in the role. I think that plays a big role in why Matt Smith hasnt received that warm of a reception. Is simply because David is a tough act to follow.

    Now with that said, I didnt like the tenth doctor. He was sadistic, he formed attachments that went way beyond that of The Doctor and his companion, he let his emotions control him which is what lead to his "Im a TimeLord, I can do anything I want" period. Which btw, once he got to that point, I was ready to bring in the next Doctor. The funny thing is, I probably wouldnt have disliked him so much if David hadnt played him so well.

    As for his last words, in my opinion, completely within character. Crunchy_Frog brought up a good point when she said this

    "What if the persona of John Smith that we see in Human Nature/Family of Blood is the original persona of the tenth incarnation, which emerged when Ten subtracted all memories of Timelords, time wars, space travel and galactic history?"

    What happened near the end of that episode? His human persona didnt want to go back to being a TimeLord.
  • Marduk  - I see it differetnly
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    As I see it, The Doctor was ready to die, I mean really to die and not to regenerate anymore. That's why he took care of a lot of things, even things in the future. And in the last minute he had a change of heart and regenerated, instead of dying.
  • DarthThought
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    I have to agree and disagree

    RTD did not write those words; that was the new guard. The show runner wrote that set of dialogue so that doesn't fall on RTD while RTD can be blamed for a LOT of things this isn't one of them. I can't remember the actual article but it was stated that Moffet wrote those words

    Now, I may be wrong but that's what I heard

    I agree that those words and the regeneration were handled wrong, Russell T Davies went out like a pussy, trying to kill the show. I am one of the fans that has stayed on cause i genuinely love Who and I love Matt Smith. This coming from a guy who cried at the exit of Ten; yes it was well done but it was a little too well done to me

    so I love and hate that regeneration. Call me bi polar but I do
  • Welshy
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    Nope, RTD wrote the tenth doctors last words. He stated on the dvd that he had always known what davids last words would be. Rtd insisted on moffet writing the new doctors first words, but everything up to the appearence of smith in the end of time part 2 is rtd writing.
  • DarthThought
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    Yeah after i posted that i did some looking and I was wrong, I have the willingness to admit when I am wrong.

    Like I said I love and hate the exit; I love it because it was a tearful goodbye to my favorite doctor(to date, though Matt Smith is growing on me and Amy Pond....well shes a hot ginger). I hate it because it was pretty much a final finger to the production that he could get in. It could've very well killed the production if there wasn't a number of us willing to reserve judgment til we saw how Matt Smith was in his first outing. Which is what I did

    Though I found it funny with all the facebook pages; I wonder if my friend on facebook is part of those pages she has an absolute crush on Ten. Me again he's my favorite but hey the guy has the right to move on; the fans you speak of were grossly misinformed and made a judgement that they need not make; it was Tennant's choice to leave he wanted to move on and has moved on to do Shakespear next to Patrick "Capt Picard" Stewart.

    All in all I'm loving your series Welshy keep up the good work!
  • Mountain_King
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    There was so much going on with those episodes that I couldn't stand the whole "I don't want to go" bit just passed me by. Shortly after I first watched the second part I went over the whole thing and discovered something interesting.
    More than three quarters of that entire story was a waste of time. There was no point in the Ood, other than fan service. The Master was sorely underused and his character ruined, the drum beat driving him mad changing the characters motivations pointlessly. Donna was wasted with a pair of cameos but no real involvement. The Aliens (I forget their name) were completely useless and only included to get a laser battle shoe horned in. The final cause of the regeneration was manufactured and didn't organically rise from the story itself, again shoe horned in.
    When Doctor Who restarted there was a backlash against RTD. While the episodes he helmed directly weren't the best they were still entertaining. Unfortunately The End of Time robbed me of that illusion. while I still thank him for resurrecting the show from the limbo of audio tapes and pocket books I am really glad he's gone.
    As for Tennent, he was a very good Doctor and is a fantastic actor. I'm sure he'll be back in a multiple Doctor story sometime but he wasn't the best. I think that title still belongs to Patrick Troughton. The doctor that just about everyone since has measured themselves against (just look at some of the behind the scenes footage, Smith credits him as inspiration, so did Davidson and McCoy)
    Finally thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for disliking Rose. I can't understand why everyone seems to like her. RDT has all but admitted she was self-insertion. He always wanted to be the companion and she's the only one to have a relationship with him? Pointless, stupid and goes against the Doctor's personality. If you want to pull your hair out have a look at the insane amount of badly written fanfic out there. I promise you that, from one Rose hater to another, it will almost have you foam at the mouth
  • FunkyM
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    All that I can say is, I reserved Judgement until at least a few episodes in, and I warmed rather quickly to Eleven.

    I just think it was a shame we never saw Eight regenerate into Nine.

    And I go.
  • Would
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    I actually liked how he went out. With what they did with 10, making him more human and softer (as he told Rose to do with 10.5), it made more sense that he was scared to regenerate as he felt it was like dying. It was sympathetic and really made you feel a sense of loss when he finally did go. Perhaps not the best way to usher out 10, but it did what it was intended to do, I think.

    It did make me ready to hate Matt Smith once he took over, but he managed to win me over within a few episodes. My only bone to pick is that he and 10 are so much alike. It's almost as if all 10 took with him was his coolness factor and 11 brought in geekiness.
  • leviadragon99  - Yeah...
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    The big drama did come across as both emotionally manipulative and entirely pointless, as if it were really trying to pretend it was the end for the doctor.
  • VoidedFilms
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    I didn't have a problem with 10's exit because it seemed to fit with how that Doctor became. He was always sulking, going on about death and boo wooing. Now I loved 10, he just got so damn mopey by the end. Now, I wasn't sure about 11 not because of how 10 exited but because I wasn't sure he could play the part. I was happily proven wrong and enjoy 11 as well as Amy.

    I had never thought about 10's bow out kinda say, well, I don't wanna leave but I gotta, but I can see how it can be viewed that way. As for those not happy for the change, jeez guys, the change is what makes Doctor Who so great.

    Anyway, loved all the points you covered and in such a quick and timely manner
  • jalford
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    (to the tune of Power Rangers...)
    "WELSHY YOU'RE A DOUCHEBAG!!!
    WELSHY YOU'RE A DOUCHEBAG!!!"
  • Mattevansc3  - Plot Hole
    What I don't understand is why Tenant's Dr died? During the season finale with the Daleks we see that the Dr can heal himself using his regeneration energies instead of changing into a new Dr, it was just after he got shot through one of his hearts by a Dalek. We've also seen that Tenant's DR is immune or highly resistant to radiation during his run.

    If he didn't want to go why not just use the same trick he used to survive the Daleks? Or is it just for plot convenience/lazy writing he gets irradiated by the one type of radiation he can't survive and prevents him from absorbing the regeneration energies to heal him but at the same time allowed the energies to heal him into a different person?
  • Navonod
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    he survived that one because of the hand, he put his regeneration energies into that and it created doctor 10.5, the doctor that went off with rose

    yeah I think that is cheap too, RTD had a fair bit of shit
  • Fear Mage
    You seem to only remember that it happened, not how it happened. The Tenth Doctor healed himself by dumping some of his regeneration energy into a, quote, "handy, bio-matching receptacle," which in turn resulted in his hand from The Christmas Invasion changing into a human version of him. At the end of End of Time part 2, there was nothing he could dump the regeneration energy into. If he chopped off his hand now, it wouldn't grow back because he was outside the first 15 hours of his initial regeneration, and it wouldn't work because that hand would be regenerating anyway.
  • Behellmorph
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    Hmmmm....you make a very good point Welshy. I didn't think of it like that.
  • Nekoshema
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    when i saw the tenth doctors regeneration, it was the first time my sister ever watched doctor who, and when he uttered that line, my sister went 'awe, that's so sad, why are they killing him then?' and yet, i don't know how to take his 'death' it was sad but just how bubbly the eleventh doctor is right after the fact, i find it show his personality better... if that's the right word, like right away he's happy and rather excitable. i never dwelt upon the tenth doctors death, heck, my favourites the ninth doctor, i was upset when he 'died' i mean, for the first couple minutes of the tenth doctor, but the feeling passes cuz it's still the doctor. i don't see why people are so upset.
  • JustPhil
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    Sorry. I was faaaaaaaaaaaaaar too sucked in to the emotional turmoil to notice.
  • SimsKatie
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    Part of my problem with the 10th Doctor's regeneration, beyond the things you mentioned here, was the way they shoehorned in all the "goodbyes" at the end and the random romantic pairings. It rang especially false for Jack Harkness after what happened at the end of Torchwood and Children of Earth, where a major point was made that humanity had lost the right to the Doctor's devotion. And then 10 shows up in the DW finale and... offers Jack a new toyboy? "Sorry I couldn't be there to save your home and everyone you love from being destroyed, here's a decent looking chap to get your end off with." That really offended me, it was an insult to the viewers' intelligence.
  • kskt
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    This. Exactly this.

    I thought The Doctor's last words were actually just fine, but the goodbyes, my god... I could kind of roll with it at the time, in an "end of an era" way, but really they did a huge disservice to just about every character. Jack, yes, but the Martha and Mickey bit annoyed me. It was just kind of a flyby "oh hey we're together! Bye Doctor!" Ten seemed oddly...removed from it all. The only goodbye I enjoyed was Rose's oddly, though I admit to there being a host of issues with that relationship.
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