B!tch Bad by Lupe Fiasco

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Comments (95)
  • trlkly
    The only problem I have is that I can't really tell if this is rap. It's closer to beat poetry, in that there's very little rhythm.
  • Valkura  - Feminist Rap?
    While i'm a metalhead and i think metal doesn't have to have good lyrics to be good, rap is a much more lyrical genre and it's great to know that there are rappers that aren't misogynistic.
  • PlayMp1
    Not just not misogynistic, but legitimately being allies with women. Not sure how I felt about the musical stuff going on, but the lyrics were frickin' brilliant. I was thinking the entire time "he has an actual vocabulary... and clever wordplay... and... not just a valid, but a VITAL point to make about modern rap and feminism! hot damn, this guy is awesome!"

    I'm a metal head too (though also a jazz player) and we really don't need amazing lyrics to get us through, so long as they're not atrocious (most bands that curse a lot have the worst lyrics).
  • CrazyChris576
    Agreed. Another metalhead here (although with an appreciation for rap as well), and I wish that more rappers would take heed to the words that Lupe is saying here. Fantastically well written episode by the RC.
  • Ohsha  - Metal+Jazz=Cynic, Athiest, Obscura....
    I checked out Lupe's new album but the Black Power ideas in the first few tracks got me to stop listening.

    Everything RC interpreted from Lupe's commentary on the word bitch can be applied to the word nigger/nigga. I disagree with the idea the use of a word innately carries its' previous meanings with it. "Nice" originally meant simpleminded but transformed to be synonymous with kind. The most visible, rapid, and dramatic changes to our language are the result of political newspeak, like the word "tolerance" changing into a synonym for acceptance, removing the concept of enduring something you dislike or permitting something you disagree with to exist from speech thereby inhibiting folks capacity to conceive of such ideas and radicalizing them to take extreme views for or against practices to burn the people's political interest away in fruitless needles disagreements and giving fringe issues political weight so they may distract from matters of real import like who issues a nation's currency.

    Orwell hates all Lupe's made-up "un" words from beyond the grave.

    Being purely an object of physical desire while men have to produce is the nature of men and women's roles. A girl shaking her ass is an accurate portrayal of femininity: she's advertising her sex to potential customers so she can drive up demand and secure a good price.

    Funny ending critic. You should've commented on the random black guy putting on blackface. You also missed out on the oedipus complex/freudian issue of Lupe's character (a proxy for his own values) wanting a woman to be like his mother. That scenario's not realistic at all. If the chick was hot and putting out he'd hit it and move on.
  • PlayMp1
    I love Cynic and Atheist, and know about Obscura. I was listening to some of Traced in Air on the way home today. I'm a percussionist, so Atheist in particular is interesting to me for the sheer technicality and intricacy in the drums, as well as the jazz/funk/Latin influence in both the drums and bass.

    I think that words do carry old meanings, especially when new meanings are only recent occurrences - the semi-reclamation of the n-word has only happened in the last 50 years or so. There's still people who remember being called the n-word in derision by a white power figure.

    Tolerance, I'm not sure about either. I think that it still just means "bare acceptance" and that it hasn't taken to meaning "must like certain things/people despite anything." Maybe I'm incredibly biased as someone who really strongly crusades and yells for gay rights and acceptance, but I don't think anyone should have to deal with bullying, poor treatment or anything else based on innate qualities (like sexual orientation, race or gender).
  • Ohsha
    Proper argument uses words to change a man's mind. Newspeak changes words to use a man's mind.

    You provide another example with the word-choice "bullying". When I first heard about the "war on bullying" in school it sounded like another example of the government declaring war on abstract concepts and practices it can't defeat. But when I learned the word "bullying" was misused to classify "criticism of buggery" I recognized it's another example of our owners re-defining terms and more greatly oppressing the people to move any concepts in opposition to the beliefs they want us to possess further to the margins of regular conversation.

    I'm a percussionist too. You probably already know atleast some of these but I'll recommend: Scale the Summit, Gojira, Protest the Hero, and Portugal the Man.
  • GreyKnight
    I think I should listen to more Lupe Fiasco...
  • Sewblon
    2:09 I thought that "shorty" always means "girl" in hip hop slang. 5:05 That is a really interesting argument. Anyone else remember that "Slut Walk" thing? I ask because the argument in this song is the perfect rebuttal to it. Just replace the word "bitch" with "slut." I am not sure if this is the point of the song. But this video makes me realize that popular culture, at least certain subsets of it, teach that if males have a valuable skill, i.e. a trade, they get to treat women as sex objects, and that women should act like sex objects in the presence of such men. In other words, pop culture still reinforces ancient gender roles.
  • JessiRay
    I think Slut Walk was a bit different. One of the main thoughts behind slut walk was that women should never be shamed for being raped. A lot of men, as well as women, blame the victim when it comes to sexual crime. They say it was what she wore or how she acted and that it's her fault she was raped. A great deal of slut walk protests that attitude toward rape victims and sexual harassment in general. I think that's more what slut walk was about, far moreso than word reclaimation.

    That and a woman shouldn't be shamed for having sex or being sexual because sexual activity isn't a shameful thing.
  • Maohisith
    Nice video Rap Critic. I should listen more from Lupe Fiasco too
  • Jester8183
    Yep, this Lupe Fiasco guy needs to be a thing.
  • TheGreatPretender  - Great review
    You know, RC, reviews don't HAVE to be funny. Sometimes something insightful and enlightening can be just as entertaining. I'm looking forward to more of these.
  • ArtticWitchica
    Very cool review. I have to admit that most Rap, it took me a while to get used to because it sounded really annoying and your videos have actually allowed me to appreciate the good stuff. But this one was actually really interesting and catchy. I have to admit I am interest.
  • Keiji
    I enjoyed this, and I will most likely be listening to more of Lupe now, even though I'm a folk/celtic/symphony/ operatic/power metal fan at heart.

    ...That means I enjoy the voice being used as an instrument among other classical music and modern metal instruments to create a melody, and lyrical based music doesn't appeal to me, much, roughly. For anyone wondering the significance.
  • littlelili
    I dunno what to say really. I've never really been a rap fan, like the vast majority of the rap music I listen to tends to be pop, or just so terribly stupid that I find it funnier then anything else. But I do like Lupe Fiasco for his work genuinely even though I will admit that I honestly had no idea who Lupe Fiasco was until Superstar came out. But I did listen to his work after that waiting for more people to appreciate his work.

    Growing up MTV was almost banned in my house. Like not out right banned banned, but pretty much was something my father didn't want my sister and I to watch. I never was one to question my father's authority though, and up until eighth grade I followed that rule.

    I grew up being raised by a single father and he always taught my sister and I that as women we were equal to men. And this went farther then the whole "you deserve the same pay and respect as a man has in society" thing. He was the sort of person that always taught us that we don't need a man to make us happy or give us the things that we want or like, and that there was no reason for us to fall into the typical gender roles.

    Like I remember when I first started dating there was none of that him being over protective thing, it was basically that he trusted that he has raised me well enough to voice my feelings and behave in a responsible manner. He taught me that as an equal to a male I could defend myself if there was a situation that arouse and that I shouldn't feel bad for defending myself. There was however a talk that I do not need to be using a man. Like I had my own job and therefor made my own money and should always pay for part of the date. Like if it were dinner and a movie I should pay for my own stuff or pay for an aspect of the date.

    He also yelled at me once for expecting to be paid the same as a man at work, yet complaining that there were no men working my shift. I worked at a movie theater and one of my jobs was to throw away the trash at the end of the night which was super heavy. I Had said I wished there were guys working to help with that when he picked me up, and he was very angry with me. And I can even remember him saying something along the lines of that.

    Now I grew up in a mostly white suburb of Washington DC. It was a pretty affluent place with vertually no crime. However my father had a few friends who lived in the inner city and I remember when I was first exposed to the inner city culture. As a suburban mixed girl who grew up with a black father and had always been taught that "nigga" was a bad word I was shocked at how freely people used it. And same with the word "bitch" as well. Both of those were totally shocking to me. And how certain things, like committing crimes, acting violently, being degrading towards women, etc. were glorified in the music the people there were listening to I have to say that I was honestly very shoc...
  • littlelili
    Oh my last paragraph was cut off... looks like I ramble way too much...

    Anyways I what is missing is me thanking you for this amazing review and exposing people who wouldn't other wise know that there are rap songs out there like this. Thanks man you're awesome and keep it up.
  • Chakan  - Some Insight
    Rap Critic, I love ya man, but you chose a bad phrase to use there about your ratings. I know I'm probably making this into more it has to be, but I just hate it when people go around saying "what are you gonna' do about it?".

    There isn't a lot I could do, since I'm just one person. For starters, I don't actually know you in real life, that about nullifies most of the things I COULD do to you, but I CAN stop watching your stuff, although I doubt you'd mourn the loss of one fan.

    Let's be honest here for a second, you're virtually a nobody on the internet. Even if that wasn't completely true, you definitely aren't on the same popularity scale as, let's say, Nostalgia Critic, so you don't have the luxury to alienate fans like it was nothing.

    I know you might think of your "what are you gonna' do about it" statement as harmless, but people can and will take it the wrong way. If this was the first video I've ever seen of yours, I would think that you were exhibiting signs of an unwarranted sense of popularity, allowing me to further conclude you are a complete douche bag. I don't know about anyone else, but, I don't like douche bags.

    ...But since I'd like to think I know more about your true character from watching your other videos, I can say that you aren't a douche bag. I hope to never hear such insulting words leave your mouth again.

    By the way, don't take anything I say personally. I'm just trying to share some insight with you.
  • Furrama
    Uhhhhhhh, I think you are taking this personally.

    "Let's be honest here for a second, you're virtually a nobody on the internet. Even if that wasn't completely true, you definitely aren't on the same popularity scale as, let's say, Nostalgia Critic, so you don't have the luxury to alienate fans like it was nothing."

    And who are you exactly? If you don't like what he said then feel free to be alienated, but at least own up to it and stop being passive aggressive. He didn't even say anything that should be considered offensive, just a silly comment about why he rated something so high. Indeed, what ARE you going to do about it? He likes it. What are you going to do, make him... not like it?
  • Jonathan M
    I would argue that nobody would be stupid enough to hear him say "what you gonna do about it" like he did, in this context, and be offended.

    I'm not going to argue that, because your post proved me wrong. Uhm, if someone is terrible at grammar and gets offended by the statement, it's their own fault. I don't blame Rap Critic and I don't think he should be overly cautious about this minority.
  • dennett316
    I wouldn't consider this insight, more pointless whining than anything else.
    No-one with a fully functional brain stem could possibly be offended by what he said...it was obviously a joke as it was said with the appropriate tone of voice in an appropriate context. He wasn't being arrogant, the context was crystal clear. That you misread it to such a degree is entirely your problem. You'd have to be extremely thin-skinned to be alienated by a line like that...in fact, you'd have to be skinless.
  • baticus_moronicus
    Chaken- Ok, a lot of commenters have already called you on your bullshit, so I don't feel I need to add anything, but to me 'For starters, I don't actually know you in real life, that about nullifies most of the things I COULD do to you', sounds pretty close to being a threat. Just because you yourself point out that it's a boundless threat doesn't mean it's not threatening language.
  • Hinatachan360
    Ummm...it was a joke....which I thought was funny.
  • alex251960  - @Chakan
    What am I gonna do about it? WHAT AM I GONNA DO ABOUT IT!? I'll tell YOU what I'm gonna do about it, Rap Critic: I'm gonna give you a pout face. That's right Mr. Rap Critic, the next time you sit down to relax and unwind just remember that someone somewhere out there in the world is giving you a pout face for asking what we are gonna do about it. *Pout face*.

    And THAT is how you respond to a joke: going along with it.
  • atypicaloracle  - Some Insight Of My Own
    "For starters, I don't actually know you in real life, that about nullifies most of the things I COULD do to you"

    Weird. I read this, and immediately visualized Neil deGrasse Tyson. "Watch out, we got a badass over here!"

    Way to come off as a butt-hurt internet tough guy and completely invalidate even the tiniest shred of relevancy you might have in this so-called "insight."

    Basically what I am saying is that collectively, myself and the others responding to your comment have given you at least 500% more attention and consideration than you deserve.
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  • Dragonerdamon  - I... I... I... I have a question...
    Before I state it (my question if you didn't read the title) I'll put a little disclaimer. I'm am not part of the english speaking culture, for I am from México, so I honestly don't know if what I'll ask is a faux pas, but I suspect it is because of what I have seen about it in the media.

    The N-word. Again since I'm mexican I don't fully understand this, but... well, that. I don't understand it. In my country we have racism, segregation and general jerkness; we also have words like the N-word that are insulting to people and incredibly offensive. But (and here lies my inability to understand) no one identifies his or herself by calling themselves that very word. I've seen it with "bitch" and women and it boggles me, I've seen it with the N-word and black people (if that's the correct term) and it is the same. This episode all I was thinking was "well, but what about the OTHER bad word people use to identify themselves with?". I was not going to comment but then that ending just pushed me to.

    Again, I'm not trying to say anything racist nor am I criticising anything or anyone. I'm just asking why do some people do that because it is kind of appropiate to ask in this particular video.

    If you want to kill me now, well I kind of don't blame you. At least, before that, tell me if I wrote this very long faux pas correctly.
  • Furrama
    Sometimes a group will declare themselves as separate from you, and above you in status. Sometimes they can bring you low all with a single word that labels you and puts you in a box of shame. Words that are used in this derogatory fashion, especially when there is a history of a people oppressing another in the past, or up to today though perhaps in a different way, it is the epitome of unfairness. A hit below the belt if you will. If you call a black person the N word and you're white or you're a man and call a woman a b!tch there is NOTHING they can say that could wound you the same way you just wounded them.

    Some people think that if they use that word in a positive way or if they can "take that word away" from the other side and use it in some other way they are regaining their lost power that was taken from them. This is, to me and the rapper (for reasons that he explained), dumb.
  • Dragonerdamon
    "Some people think that if they use that word in a positive way or if they can "take that word away" from the other side and use it in some other way they are regaining their lost power that was taken from them. This is, to me and the rapper (for reasons that he explained), dumb." This, so much of this.

    That is why I just don't understand. MTV had to pull their "guido" ads for Jershey Shore because the word is offensive, I've heard about Inuit people complaining about being called "eskimal" because is offensive. Why, other than adoctrination, would you call yourself a derogatory word if you have non-offensive words? I just don't get it. Again, no disrespect is intended in this, just stating my bewilderment at the phenomenon.
  • Furrama
    Some people just want to be able to say whatever they want, whenever they want, to whoever they want with no repercussions, some feeling that others don't have the right to feel insulted for whatever reason. That's the biggest bit of it. A few are ignorant I guess, but it's mostly the former.
  • Semudara
    I think it's just an attempt to take those insults in stride, and thus destroy their negative power. A "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" kinda thing.

    Sometimes a negative label is worth transforming. Sometimes, the best way to deal with a rotten label is just to dispose of it. It's not a one-size-fits-all kind of problem.
  • 3DMaster
    >If you call a black person the N word and
    >you're white or you're a man and call a woman a
    >b!tch there is NOTHING they can say that could
    >wound you the same way you just wounded them.

    What are ffing kidding me?

    Ever heard the word "creep"? Not only does that hurt you personally as the word "bitch" may, hell, more, because you as a man are taught by all of society to derive your self-worth by a woman's approval, that word stigmatizes you socially completely. You are instantly persona non-grata, not to be talked with by anyone, especially not other women in earshot or you are creep-loving traitor to the gender; hell, that's a word that gets you thrown out of the establishment by an eager bouncer showing how great a feminist White Knight he is in "protecting women from the evil oppressing shrodingers rapist" :rolleyes: like that is something of the past fifteen years. That is, of course, if you don't get beaten into a hospital to boot.
  • Furrama
    I didn't much like the "music" bit of the rap, the beat seemed off and the tune underneath is uninteresting, but he had really interesting stuff to say.

    I'm conflicted.
  • Emradrig  - lol
    Great punchline
  • katwalk
    This video made me feel better, because when you posted the music video on your twitter awhile ago that one verse you pointed out + the chorus (which COULD be interpreted as "don't be a bitch act like a lady") rubbed me the wrong way.

    Confirmation that this song is criticism of word use is something I'm grateful for.
  • Mephisto
    I like it too as a review. It definitely is true that we are all a product of our environment, and this song reflects that in a very good way. Trying to change stigmas and stereotypes though, that is a lot more difficult to accomplish. However, addressing that environment that someone gets raised in by addressing the medium with an alternative voice in that same medium is a good way to start.
  • Rulk
    Hilarious ending.
  • Wolfmane
    I'll be the first to say that I'm not a fan of rap, but this song exemplifies the kind I like.
  • CyborgPrince
    This episode was different and I like that. Instead of just ripping a bad rap a new asshole, you intelligently analyse a good rap and what makes it so. It's some interesting facts you bring up that I know have been the subject of debate since rap hit the mainstream. I'm glad to see your own personal take on these issues. Glad you had Lindsay edit your script to make sure you didn't put your foot in your mouth during the review.

    Plus, I think, after 2 Chains (or is it 2 Chainz?) and his horrible rap with bizarre video, we all needed a little change and a breath of fresh air. It seems like you needed it too.

    Anyone still up for some boobie cake?
  • LikaLaruku
    If you want a break from the usual rap schtick, do something retro :D Or maybe a best or worst rap or hiphop covers of non rap or hip hop songs.

    This Lupe guy looks good in a tux with semilong hair. Yum.
  • Dragonerdamon
    Regarding the song, as soon as the review ended I went to the bathroom (had to pee) then to Fiasco's you tube channel to see/hear it. Two things happened there: I liked the song very much just as the video, but, perhaps more importantly, the video compares the "bitch" use with the use of "black face" make up... Fiasco notices this parallel (and perhaps the mentioned N-word parallel, too) and also points them. From your review I belived that Fiasco was not aware of the similitudes between those situations and I'm glad he is. Man, now I like HIM not just this song.

    I guess that's a job well done, Mr. Jaxon.
  • JumpingGigawatt123  - Lupe
    you know Lupe really is a good artist but for some reason i cant really get into him but i havent listened to this album yet so my mind be able to if i like it.
  • baron_tuhcs
    I'm a huge fan of Lupe's work and I'm glad you're doing your best to promote him. The greatest thing is that he's not only insightful but his lyricism flows better (in some songs, not so much this one in my opinion) than the vast majority of mainstream rappers. Great review as well. I don't watch your vids much but I'll be sure to catch any further Lupe reviews. It's always good to hear a second opinion on what the songs mean.
  • leviadragon99
    Also, the concept explored here with the word "bitch" could be compared without too much difficulty to the use of the word "fag" in any context and those legitimising the hatefull and derogatory use of it, although the context is slightly different, the allegedly more acceptable of the term "fag" being essentially: "no really, it's not a homophobic slur, just a generic descriptor of a person I don't like or agree with."

  • TequilaFlavor  - Lupe's lyrical prowess
    Great video, Lupe Fiasco is my favorite Hip Hop artist of all time (tied with a German rapper called Samy Deluxe).

    This song is great for showing how conscious rap works and how great Lupe is at that.

    However, to anybody who might be asking themselves: Where is that insane lyrical prowess that Lupe Fiasco is always heralded for ?

    It's not in this song.

    If you really want to dive into that: Almost all other songs by Lupe are filled to the brim with double and triple entendres, insane references etc.

    Good examples: "Lupe the Killa", "Twilight Zone", "Switch" (all on Youtube).

    Check out rapgenius.com to look up the lyrics and their meaning, but be warned: Your head will feel like exploding at first (which goes away soon) AND those lyrical breakdowns only scratch the surface.

    I listen to Lupe since 2008 on a daily basis and still find new meanings behind songs I already heard 50 times.
  • JethroQ
    No, it's not much my place to comment on Lupe's message; I'm a white cis-gender guy, but I have heard a lot of feminists of color complain that the song is kinda mansplainy, and the bit about the boy and girl meeting kinda seems to put more blame on the girl. As well as putting the blame on the boy's misogyny on his mother. That's just blaming the target of opression for their own opression.

    To use a more personal example, as a Queer man, we are stereotyped to being bitchy, promiscuous, self destructive... I'm not all of that, but when I started realizing the amount of homophobia in society, I did kinda adopt a bitchy attitude towards straight people, pick up smoking and drinking with a kind of YOLO attitude, and so on. And in many ways I was becoming a stereotype, a statistic. But it was just a coping mechanism. No one cared if I was a nice, balanced person, they'd hate me all the same, so I decided to tell them go fuck themselves.

    And I'm no expert on black womanhood, but I know a lot of feminists use reclaiming sexuality as a sort fo a middle finger to the establishment.

    But still, Lupe was not wrong to make this track. He's not exclusively trying to mansplain this stuff to girls, he is trying to reach out to male listeners as well. And when it comes to misogyny in hip hop and the black community, it's not any of our white people's issue to dictate. White people love blaming rap for sexism, while completely ignoring the power structures that are inside their own communities and society. So Lupe, and you, are part of a dialogue that needs to happen. Meanshile, I should probably go and adress the racism in the LGBT community, somewhere else.
  • Fan_State_of_Mind
    When I saw the video I, too, liked the parallels between the use of 'blackface' and its effects of the self-perception of black people in its time to the nowadays use of the 'bitch' and its effects on the self-perception of black people nowadays. I wonder why you didn't mention that.

    The thing is, after scouring the internet for Lupe's songs, I can understand WHY he isn't popular. And no, I don't think it's because he's 'too deep' for mainstream. Or 'too good'. Not all mainstream is stupid. But he does hold and expresses some majorly controversial opinions in his songs and videos. Take this one- Bitch Bad- the video is dedicated to Paul Robeson, a respectable artist who suffered from discrimination, but also known communist supporter. And 'Words I Never Said'- it's chockfull of controversial political opinions many people, myself included, do not agree with. While I do recognize his talent and many of his songs are very good, I doubt he'll ever get more than 'barely mainstream' because of that.
  • TheLaughingFish
    For a second I thought, before the blackface was fully on, that it was supposed to be a parallel to "mud on your face", as in black folks and women using these types of words to refer to themselves are only defaming themselves, not reclaiming words that should NOT be reclaimed. Not just words like "bitch" but even stronger words as well, like the N-word. However, my interpretation still works once I realized it was blackface. It's talking about the irony of blacks continuing to use these words to describe themselves when it is only perpetuating stereotypes and discrimination.
  • JethroQ
    I for one wholeheartedly support ideologies Lupe, and even more radical acts like Dead Prez, The Coup and Paris put forth in their music. And I understand that the mainstream isn't really open to that, mostly because we've all been sold the lie that everything is going good, and our wellbeing doesn't opress anyone.
  • BizarroGeek
    Any song that uses the term "the plot thickens" is a-okay with me.
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