Music Movies - South Pacific

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  • JATHBR
    Wow, you're my idol
  • Goat Boy
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    I just noticed you have "Shock Treatment" and "The Wall" on there. Can't wait for you to do them.

    Anyway, fun fact: This is probably the only musical movie to feature two future martial-arts stars in its cast; Tom "Billy Jack" Laughlin and Richard "Godfrey Ho" Harrison.
  • EpicFish
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    Did we really just get a Paw going down on us joke? I'm sensing a disturbance in the force, thousands of fangirls squeeing at once, jimmies fully rustled (as it were).

    Guess I should have seen the Jungle Book choice coming from the nod to Trust In Me.
  • fanime1
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    Don't forget the fan boys. LOL
  • FATIMAGIC
    I was first introduced to South Pacific when I saw the 2009 revival performance at the Tonys with Paulo Szot and Kelli O'Hara in the leading roles. In my opinion, they do a FAR better job, both vocally and acting-wise than the two leads in this film. The way I see it--and Kelli O'Hara played this beautifully--is that "A Cockeyed Optimist" is meant to express Nellie's belief that she *is* progressive for her time. She isn't outwardly condescending to any of the Polynesian characters in the show, let alone Emile's children, until she finds out that they're his. The fact is that while Nellie does harbor racism, she's from Little Rock, Arkansas, and she probably views the fact that she's not outwardly cruel to the Polynesians as a step in the right direction compared to the relatively more closed-minded people she grew up with.

    Nellie harbors racism towards Emile's children not just because she was raised in a racist environment, but because she had formulated this idea in her mind of Emile being this sophisticated "cultured Frenchman", who in her mind, would have been above falling for and marrying a Polynesian woman. Her illusion of his "perfection" in being the rich white guy with no baggage, emotional or otherwise, is shattered.

    Later on, she does realize that she loves Emile too much to let her racism stand between them. When he goes to fight with Joe Cable, she stays with the children and begins to form a bond with them. It's heavily implied that Emile, Nellie, and the children become cemented as a family after the events of the show. Nellie isn't perfect, and she does try, and in a way, succeeds in getting rid of a lot of her prejudices towards non-white people. As I said, this is played much better and more emotionally by Kelli O'Hara than Mitzi Gaynor, imo.

    When I first saw this movie, I was EXTREMELY put off by the odd colors and vignettes, as well, so I don't think it was a nitpick, and I'm glad it wasn't just me who was annoyed by it lol. I'm not really a fan of "Bali Hai", and I almost fast-forwarded through that part of the movie--it just seemed to slow and boring to me, like a lot of the first act, as you mentioned. It's a very little amount of story stretched out for a good forty-five minutes to an hour. My favorite song is definitely "Some Enchanted Evening", and although "Happy Talk" is cringe-worthy, and somewhat ironically a racist product of it's time, it is so impossible to get out of your head.

    I definitely recommend you listen to the 2009 cast version, Paw. I enjoyed this review, although I thought you could have gone a little more in-depth with it, seeing how there are so many songs in the film. Can't wait for the next episode.
  • PaladinDemo
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    World War 2 the musical!
  • magp13
    Did you know that the actress who plays bloody mary is an african american actress named Juanita Hall?

    Also the reason Joshua Logan used the color filter was because it was new...The made for TV movie with Glenn Close was quite (if you can forgive the use of 'Payarus') is good for the record

    Also..."Cockeyed- optimist"? What?..really? ok, your opinion
  • AComedian
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    Still waiting on that Sweeney Todd review.
  • ShiversTheNinja
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    Don't forget, Paw is at the mercy of the dartboard. He'll get to Sweeney Todd when the dart hits it. :)
  • ShiversTheNinja
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    Oh, THIS is where "A Wonderful Guy" is from! Man, I have a feeling I'll have a much easier time finding sheet music/chords for it now... I've been working on a collection of chords for as many songs from the Fallout games as I can find so I can do a theme day of ukulele covers on my YouTube channel, but I've had a surprisingly difficult time finding a lot of the songs.

    Aaaaanyway... great review as always, Paw. :D I've always liked musicals, but there are a lot of them I know very little about, and of course, many I haven't even heard of. Your show has exposed me to a lot of new art, and I'm extremely grateful for it.

    (Random question, since I've never commented on an episode of Music Movies before: am I the only one who puts the words "music movies" to the four notes at the end of the, er, theme song? Mu-sic mo-vies! I have no idea if that was the intention or not but that's where my brain goes.)
  • php101  - Kaa
    In the BOOK, Kaa wasn't even REMOTELY bad.
    and..
    Well, the next one ought to be ineresting.
  • Usagiqueen
    It's funny. Just watched "American Beauty" the other day, and they use excerpts for South Pacific (Happy Talk or Bali Hai, forgot which) as background music in one scene.

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    I disagree about the original version with Mary Martin being the one to get. If you want one album, I highly recommend the 2001 London version.
  • ladydiskette
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    Awesome, I didn't know the guy that sang that was the voice for Tony the Tiger! :D

    Cool.
  • Betamite
    I was playing fallout 3 while listening to this and when I heard "in love with a wonderful guy" (note my sound on the game was muted) I flipped out for a second XD
  • WesleyFoxx
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    I'm reinstalling it to play through again because of this review :V
  • ladydiskette
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    ....while I just sit here sad that my own computer will not let it install :(
  • Loneheart
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    I saw this on Broadway a few years back when on Vacation to New York with my dad. I wanted to see Avenue Q and my dad this. I honesty cant remember anything from it aside from some bits of the songs.
  • branded92x
    My understanding of the color filter issue was that this film was made near the birth of that particular piece of film-making technology. Then, the director absolutely hated it in reviewing the footage, but by this point, it had already been filmed that way, and redoing all of those scenes would be way too much of a financial investment. That's what I've been told, anyway.
  • Steve the Pocket
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    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Give a filmmaker a new piece of equipment, and they overuse the hell out of it.
  • Lapinporokoira
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    I've never seen South Pacific and after watching your review I probably won't. The colour filtering irritated me in the small clips. My brain would probably fry. (I already got a headache from the clips)
    However I did recognise quite a few of the songs in it. Never new Happy talk was from South Pacific.

    I notice your dartboard is starting to look a little empty again. Would really love to see you take on Bugsy Malone, Bye Bye Birdie and Victor/Victoria. You haven't done Hello Dolly yet either have you?

    Btw my favourite song in The Jungle Book is probably That's What Friends Are For.
  • CC*
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    this film would be perfect for a acid trip
  • yaoinut
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    Can't say I'm fond of these recent reviews. You seem to skip a lot of content, and even quite a few songs, giving barest glances to them.

    I understand wanting to stand out and not mimic your peers, but I urge you to reconsider.

    Your review of Reefer Madness if what made me buy the movie. Snippits of each song that made me want to see the whole thing, I recap of the story, and opinions on the songs and interesting information.

    This, just seems so watered down. I know there wasn't much to talk about plot wise, but it still felt very rushed.

    I do love your work though. I guess we will have to see what you do with Jungle Book.
  • WesleyFoxx
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    I thought I was the only one who felt that way, or at least said enough to point it out in the comments.

    I wouldn't mind him going the more Nostalgia Chick-esque route with it, but they're just not as entertaining as the serial reviews. Reefer Madness, Really Rosie, Fiddler on the Roof and so on, versus the various Rock of Ages related reviews, the Beatles movies, basically any of the reviews he's been doing the last six months.
  • yaoinut
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    I'm glad I'm not going crazy or don't seem unreasonable in my request. Heck, I couldn't even watch Beatles month...it seemed all over the place.
  • Zodia195
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    Paw, you're starting to lose me here. Not only do you skip around the movie, but you're starting to ignore a few songs now. I miss how you use to do your reviews by going through the song lists in chronological order. You forgot Bloody Mary, Twin Soliloquies, Dities Moi, I'm in Love with a Wonderful Guy, My Girl Back Home, This Was Nearly Mine, and one of my favorites, Younger than Spring Time.

    I am sorry, but if you're going to keep on doing this, I don't know if I want to keep watching your show.

    I do agree with you though.
  • Lady Time Lord
    I'm not sure if it's up there or not, but if it isn't, can you put the 2012 version of Les Mis up on the dartboard?
  • Emilie Bennett
    Why the heck would a Fallout game use music from the late 1940s?
  • LikaLaruku
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    My favorite Rogers & Hammerstein musical is Cinderella. There's been 3 movie adaptations; I grew up with the middle one & I still don't know any of the people in it.

    ::Looks at long list of movie musicals:: Man, you're never going to run out of musicals to review. You haven't done any of my favorites & not a single one had Doris Day in it, & those used to be the only ones I even knew about.
  • Dacilriel
    You skipped a bunch of songs.

    I've never seen the original movie. The first version I saw was the 2001 version with Glenn Close and Harry Connick Jr. and I've seen a couple stage productions. Based on this review the original movie looks like it would hurt my eyes.
  • ygoraphobic  - among the fanboys squeeling
    So yeah, I've been watching your Music Movies for about a year or so now, even going back through some of the archive. I really like how you've evolved as a reviewer. Your reviews are becoming insightful, thoughtful, humorous, witty, and never too overly pedantic (except for the Pedantic Semantic of course...in the shower oh my!)

    I wouldn't be too concerned with some of the comments about how you "aren't going song by song in order anymore" and such (paraphrased). I think anyone who is familiar with some of these musical movies should understand that sometimes there isn't enough time to cover every single song the way they deserve, and other times there is so much time that would be wasted being repetitious about the same criticisms of the bad ones. I mean, one can only say so many times, for instance, how much Hoff sings like Hoff and how impossible it is to pull off the dual role of Jekyll and Hyde. We don't need insight into each and every song of South Pacific, many of them are just bubbly songs that are exactly like the ones already mentioned.

    Regardless, another sexy review by sexy Paw with his sexy brain. LOL
  • ohe
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    I can't stand this movie. By now there has been so many Disney films that make South Pacific look like the lowest common denominator they all take from. Such is the fate of being an early work in a genre that has been worked to pretty much perfection by absolute, hard professionals. It also doesn't help that that Mitzi Gaynor is so similar to Doris Day that you can't help thinking that Day would look the part more with her less-serious-looking facial features. I mean she doesn't look miscast, but brings to mind a person who would be even better a fit. Mary Martin I'm not too familiar with but I suppose the same applies.
  • True Perception
    "Suspended" Disbelief! Musical Double Entendre! I love it!
  • Kumi
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    I was so disappointed when I didn't recognize a single one of these songs.

    Also, I've noticed that lately Paw really seems to be glossing over or just completely neglecting to explain the synopses of the films he's reviewing. I haven't seen a lot of these movies, and (especially in the last couple of months) he seems to be jumping straight to sections he wants to talk about without much preamble about the movie in general or what context each song has in the film.
    It's a lot harder to get an impression of these movies overall, which is a shame, because coming away with the feel of a film that I've never seen before is one of my favorite things about watching reviews.

    I think the videos are really suffering from being too condensed.

    Of course good review nonetheless! It's just that these problems have really been hindering my enjoyment levels as of late. Past reviews like Hedwig & the Angry Inch, for example, left me feeling like I'd actually seen the movie. I'm not getting that so much now.
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