Music Movies - Fantasia 2000

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  • Pigquet
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    I have rough day, and Nella makes me happy. I love how that works. ^_^
  • Snugens
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    Linkara IS in everything o:
  • T-Funk
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    Nice light jazz mario theme!
  • Theluiginater
    Be honest. Who else wants to watch a full game of Dungeons and Ponies with JewWario and Nella?
  • Wookiee
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    Brohoof!

    Of course If Sweet Apple Acres did burn and the Apple Family were homeless, I could offer them my place to stay. *squee*

    "But I want it NOOOOOW!"

    Jewario Applebloom Impression?
  • JethroQ
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    Eee to the yup.

    Now, I'm not one of those Bronies who thinks everyone should love the show, but I'm also kinda disheartened that such a large part of the TGWTG crew hate it, or are tired with the fandom. I mean, we can kinda blame the ponies that try to shoehorn it everywhere, and who forget to love and tolerate.
  • Slatefield
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    Eeeyup.

    From what I've heard (especially from Bennett, etc.), it seems to be a lot of the bronies that propagate on Facebook that seems to drive most of the derision. Some people are going to take their fandoms too far, whatever it might be, and unfortunately with MLP being the card-carrying "cool" franchise at the moment (though it's kinda moved from being a fad at this point to just something that a lot of people like now), that's going to happen for awhile.

    Still, it's always awesome to see members of TGWTG be open about liking the show. Brohooves all around.
  • Steve the Pocket
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    Facebook? You've got 4chan, Reddit, and deviantART, and their own retarded site Equestria Daily which is possibly the worst of all, and it's the fans on Facebook that are the most annoying?

    ...I'm OK with this.
  • Lotus Prince
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    "Now, I'm not one of those Bronies who thinks everyone should love the show, but I'm also kinda disheartened that such a large part of the TGWTG crew hate it, or are tired with the fandom."

    I don't hate MLP (I've never watched it), but god damn, am I sick of people raving about it absolutely everywhere.

    Also, what Slatefield said: it's the stuff filling the news feeds on facebook.

    People who are "Bronies" are okay, but I just get sick of hearing about MLP non-stop. And it's not just because it's MLP. I get sick of seeing constant pictures and memes of Dr. Who as well, and while I don't watch Dr. Who, I know that it's an incredible show (I've heard mixed reviews of MLP).
  • Bloodrealm
    "I don't hate MLP (I've never watched it), but god damn, am I sick of people raving about it absolutely everywhere." Same with me. I haven't seen the show, and I never will. Why? Because I'm god damn terrified of the clips I've been shown! Seriously, paranoid-schizophrenic cartoon pony. Burning rage pony. Friggin' scary.
  • Semudara
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    Actually, I've watched the first season of it, and it's just a fairly typical children's cartoon. Comedic misunderstandings, exaggerated emotions and cartoon violence, temporary mental breakdowns, a moral at the end, the works. There's nothing particularly exceptional about it-- positive or negative-- that should prevent you from watching it. It's about as "scary" as Dexter's Laboratory or Fairly Odd Parents.

    Although, there is a REALLY blatant alcohol reference in one episode that still baffles me. I have to wonder how that got past the censors.
  • ladydiskette
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    I would just for the lawlz factor.

    Even though I never watched the new show (MLP:FIM) Nella is one of my favorite people and I could withstand a few minutes of MLP talk just to hang out with her.
  • Moon Spirit
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    I should have known Fantasia 2000 would arrive, but the inclusion of Nella and JewWario, I guess it was coming ever since the review of Interstella 5555.

    Can't wait to see the next episode.
  • rosenrot234
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    I felt silly during the Penn and Teller cameo. I have an episode of Bullshit loaded up on another screen so the joke for them really got me to laugh.

    Nella didn't bring her pony toys for the game? Aw.
  • T-Funk
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    Also I have to agree, the firebird suite is the best part of Fantasia 2000. Rhapsody In Blue is a close second.
  • KiramidHead
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    I had the good fortune of seeing this on an IMAX screen when I was eight. Firebird Suite was fucking epic.
  • MovieNerd17
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    I always knew Linkara was a Timelord
  • Heckfire
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    Why not, he's been everything else... {end Dexter's Lab accent}
  • Linkara
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    Only in that universe.
  • SaraBoozer1  - YAY crossover!
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    I own this movie thanks to a combo pack of it and the original. The Firebird Suite & Rhapsody in Blue sequences are worth the DVD/Blu-ray alone. I love these films because you can just enjoy the music or watch and let your mind get lost in the sound.

    Great crossover teaming once again. I was smiling all throughout. Now if they can just manage to get that time hole fixed...
  • Sewblon  - Wait.
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    A Jew, a Timelord, and a large woman in a bathroom in a hotel together... I know that there is a punchline that goes with that setup but I cannot think of it! Its driving me crazy!
  • ladydiskette
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    Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww SadPanda doesn't a girl panda! *wibbles* :(


    I would hug him if he wasn't prone to biting.
  • melodywolfhart  - Stop pretending...
    Just stop with analyzing "musical movies" if you don't have the background to do it. Well, maybe someone does, but it doesn't show here. Stop telling people "facts" that are incorrect! Beethoven's music was early classical to late romantic - therefore his 5th Symphony was written during the "Romantic Era", not classical. Just like Gershwin is from 20th Century music...not classical (especially since Gershwin loved Jazz).

    Don't forget that Dukas's "Sorcerer's Apprentice" works as a story because the music is programatic unlike Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in G minor and Beethoven's 4th Syphony. There is a difference between programatic music and concert music - one tells the story, the other does not.

    Last - Stravinsky's music showing up in Fantasia 2000 is an insult to his name. Stravinsky did not want his music in the original Fantasia and I highly doubt he would want it now. Disney used Rite of Spring because it had to copyright laws to protect it - and to use The Firebird Suite is this way just shows that Disney didn't consider the composer's feelings.

    Both are better than nothing, but I question the shoddy "factual" information given in any review written about music coming from after the 20th century. I'm glad they know Stowokski, but I wish they would know that it was nice to see Itzak Perlman while he could still stand without the use of crutches or a motorized wheelchair (in which I saw him last year perform from) - sorry that his battle with polio in his youth caused him to have struggles later on.

    The point is - if you know something, don't dumb it down for the masses and if you don't know something, then don't pretend you are the authority to review it.
  • jz1337  - Ironic accusation
    Beethoven's 4th was not in Fantasia, it was his 6th.

    And considering Stravinsky's music ended up as one of the best parts of Fantasia 2000, not seeing the big deal.

    So next time you accuse someone of not knowing their facts, know your own and don't be a damn hypocrite.
  • Berlioz II
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    You're one to talk about "factual" information when you don't even know the difference between Beethoven's 4th and 6th symphonies, or that Beethoven's 5th, while being prototypical of future Romantic music, was still nowhere near the Romantic Era that is generally seen as not having begun until around the late 1810s (the symphony was written in 1806).

    Not to mention, Stravinsky had absolutely no problem in using his music in the film. He actually visited the studio in 1939 and even saw the pencil test showings of the sequence. So he absolutely had no problem with the use of Rite of Spring in Fantasia even besides that Disney had payed $6000 to the publisher to use the music in the film to begin with.

    What Stravinski actually had a problem with was the various cuts and changes made to his score, and he hated Stokowski's conducting of it, but that has nothing to do with the actual use of the music, of which he was perfectly well aware of and okay with. Not only that, he actually granted license to Disney to use the Firebird ballet in a future Fantasia film, which then ended up never materialising since the whole project was put on ice until the 2000 sequel. Igor also granted them access to his Fireworks and Renard for similar usage in yet other Fantasias, so to claim he didn't want his music used in these films is just ridiculously inaccurate for somebody berating people for not making sure their "facts" are straight.
  • melodywolfhart
    I will admit that I didn't see that I typed a 4 instead of a 5 - which is only a typo the second time that I wrote it (and I should have written late classical to early romantic - I was thinking of his early and late career and wrote is weird). But typically anything composed after Beethoven's 3rd symphony is debated as early romantic. And yes, Stravinsky did object to having his music used in the original Fantasia. The problem was, Stravinsky could not afford to copy right his music and Disney knew this. Disney did pay Stravinsky, but told him that if he didn't agree to let him use the music since it was not copyrighted he would use it anyway. Stravinsky often had problems with money and did things that he would not have done if in a good position.

    One point is debatable, the other - I look at the initial response of Stravinsky and not the response of money. That being said, there is a big difference when looking at movies like Fantasia and ones that use music that is not considered "classical". I am more worried that people will just listen to something like this and not question anything presented. One person made a comment that showed that they would rather just be told something and the other comment showed that they would like to look into things better. I like the second reply, honestly. Civil discourse is welcome.
  • 13secondstomidnight
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    Hehe, I love this. So you get your own high-handed response supposedly representing the correct information absolutely hammered by someone who knows far more than you, and then you backtrack, claim half was a typo, you didn't write it correctly, and the other half was you trying to mask the fact that your perception was biased and incorrect.

    I'm sorry, but for someone who was CORRECTING someone else and INSULTING their lack of knowledge, you have absolutely no ground to claim "oh sorry, I wrote this wrong and made a mistake."

    For your information, a lot of people who watch Paw's Music Movies watch it because they have an active interest in music and movies (oh what a shock!) (for example, I myself played piano at AMusA level (in Australia AMEB piano grades) until I got too sick to continue). Don't pretend that you're the most knowledgeable person here or are the only person who would have the resources to research and check facts.

    I mean honestly, your entire argument is based on utter hypocrisy (you presuming to tell other people rather than encouraging them to seek out the truth themselves, hence doing the same thing as Paw - i.e. "informing people") and your presumption that the rest of Paw's audience doesn't have the intelligence to speculate and research. In the terms of civil discourse: please keep your fatuous responses to yourself until you've edited out the insulting assumptions and hypocrisy. However constructive critique and engaging discussion is still welcome. Thankyou.
  • littlelili
    Rhapsody in Blue is what made me start to study clarinet (and I mean well the song not the animated short in Fantasia 2000-- and the peak of my clarinet playing was getting the solo for Rhapsody in blue when we played at Disney World in high school) so I kind of would have to chant Gershwin with the rest. I have only ever seen this once and that was in IMAX when it first came out. In IMAX Pines of Rome, and the Firebird Suite.

    Awesome review and can't wait to see what's next.
  • Guild Navigator
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    Disney definitively jumped the creative shark with this one. My biggest complaint is the music selection: No Vivaldi? No Mozart? No Wagner? I've killed to see old Disney make something with Handel's Sarabande. The whole selection just comes off as "meh".

    Hey,it's 8-bit Mickey! Hey its...Julien being extra creepy (so I'll just forget about it).

    BTW,I think we can all agree Nella needs to do more cameo drop ins.
  • Crossover Princess
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    I have to say Linkara's cameos were the best of them all!

    Also the thing about the D&P game... Oh my god, that killed me... Especially when J-Dub did the the Big Mac "Eeyup!". Awesome!
  • Heckfire
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    ...I made a MLP tabletop RPG back in the 80s, so TECHNICALLY it's G1, but it can still be adapted... *hides behind his Optimus Prime figure*
  • Wookiee
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    Hey, Pony-era crossover stories are the best.

    Pinkie Pie and Surprise causing mayhem.

    Rainbow Dash and G3 Rainbow Dash having a catfight.

    Twilight Sparkle assisting the Ponies of Dream Valley battle the Eldritch Horrors. AWESOME!
  • MollyWobbles6093
    Gotta say, I'd pay money to see that. It'd be kind of like the Turtles Forever movie-special-thing, it'd be just a ton of fun to watch.

    I also have to say, I squee'd when Nella said "Applejack" and in that instant I realized she and JewWario were, in fact, playing an MLP:FiM tabletop RPG. Then I laughed my ass off.
  • otakursed666
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    Have to agree, even if any addition of Penn & Teller is usually ftw in my book. And hopefully JeWario's stint as one of the rare male companions doesn't end like Adric's.
  • WesleyFoxx
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    Nella continues to be best supporting personality. _>
  • Rexaura888
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    I felt the review was a pretty good balance to Doug's review of the movie. Where he was a bit more concerned with the animation (I think he actually enjoyed the Pomp and Circumstance sequence if memory serves), this review was more concerned with the musical aspect and the more abstract imagery that should have been included more. That said, it's funny how the two reviews came to the same conclusion: while nothing was lost with this sequel (except for the co-hosts), nothing was really gained (except for maybe Rhapsody in Blue and the Firebird suite).

    So wait...if Linkara's favorite Doctor is the 7th Doctor, then why does he have the 4th's scarf?
  • Heckfire
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    Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.
  • DMaster
    What, you can't have a greatest preference but still show acknowledgement for your lesser preferences?
  • ThatGuyWhoHatesFanboys  - Old Versus New!!! Chernabog Versus Firebird!!!
    I have to wonder if these past 2 episodes would have been better if it was an Old Versus New but they still turned out great I actually saw Fantasia 2,000 first but the only thing I remember from it was the Firebird which is among my most deeply ingrained subconscious fears that pops up from time to time and Firebird trumps Chernabog for Sheer DESTRUCTIVE POWER!!!! IT ERASES AN ENTIRE FOREST LITERALLY IN SECONDS!!!!!!
  • Wookiee
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    It's clearly modeled on Mt. St. Helens.
  • Heckfire
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    OK, I'll bite...how can it be concluded if there were only 2 "Fantasia" movies..?
  • Berlioz II
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    Maybe they'll do "Allegro non Troppo", an Italian spoof on Fantasia with lots of slapstick comedy likewise set to a bunch of classical music. ;)
  • T-Funk
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    I hope so
  • LadyMima
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    There was a shorter animation that was a lot like Fantasia...Doug reviewed it in Disneycember, but I forget what it's called...
  • ArtticWitchica
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    I will say this. I didn't care for this review. It's not because I hate cameos or because I actually like Fantasia 2000, but something was off, and I think it's because I don't care much for Elisa and her "MORBID" motif.

    I love morbid humor, but it really annoys me with all the "it must be depressing crap."

    I'm glad you like the Firebird piece, and I found it funny seeing this review because my Russian Teacher has been talking about Rhapsody in Blues for the past few days because the composer was Russian.

    I hated the celebrity guest cameos but I also like Fantasia 2000, and the Flamingo piece was adorable.

    Pomp and Circumstance was definitely the worst out of the bunch though.
  • Wookiee
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    Anyway, Fantasia 2K was okay, but Doug's review for Disneycember hit it on the head.

    The Celebrity Interludes were annoying and the way a lot of the music was truncated and abridged was unforgivable.
  • EpicFish
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    JewWario is a brony? SQUEEEEEEE! I love his Big Macintosh "Eeyup"! /)^3^(

    Okay, fan-girling over, that was a very entertaining review! Especially all the cameos. And Lewis has a Tardis? Aw, I wanna ride in it!
  • CinemaKid
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    What the crap was with that ending?
  • just4theheckofit
    Might be a lead-in to the anniversary movie. You know, like Thor and Iron Man were for the Avengers movie. It will be scifi-based after all.
  • Wizard
    EVERYTHING IS PONIES AND NOTHING HURTS.
  • GhostGirl
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    I can't possibly be the only one who feels like Elisa takes away more than she adds to these reviews. Though that was an impressive lineup of cameos. I gotta find a way to that con one day.
  • ckyvick
    Why is paw looking to the left to wave Nella over when she enters from his right?

    JW and Nella not knowing about the first movie got old kinda fast. I got it the first time ;)

    Cute review! Cheezballin' as always Paw
  • php101  - THE SCARF!
    EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

    /end fangirl squeal
  • FranBMan23
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    That was completely awesome. Great observations and a great concept. Also, Jew Wario's Big Mackintosh impression made my life >
  • Slatefield
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    Flying whales, huh? Think Gojira would like to have a couple words about that...

    And yea, our good ol' J-Dub's been a brony for quite a while now. Scan his pictures on Twitter and you can find him wearing the Big Macintosh neckbrace for some sort of cosplay he was doing.

    All in all, great review with a pretty humorous way to shoehorn in the rest of the cameos.
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