Empire Strikes Back
Written by MikeJ Wednesday, 22 September 2010 18:02
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09.22.2010 - 19:57 | VampireApple
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09.22.2010 - 21:12 | EbalanceStill too short and no proper ending... yeah... I don't mind the 90's versions of these films, but the newest update SUCKS... mostly b/c of the third one in which for... WHY HAS ANAKIN AGED BACKWARDS AS A GHOST?! WTF?! Yoda and Obi-Wan aren't younger, and for that matter where the hell is Qui-Gon?! So what if he didn't personally know Luke... you think he would've shown up to look at him... oh... well... I guess he was busy graduating to "God" so he could appear in the Narnia films...
I LIKE PUPPET YODA!!! He's funny! He's got WAY more character in one finger than the Yoda in the prequels has in his whole "body"...
Again, I know this is new format for you, but personally I like slightly more in depth things... these are interesting, but feel rushed.
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09.23.2010 - 02:03 | TelajänisI won't be caught defending Hayden Christensen, but I do have a theory why he would be the one appearing as the ghost.
It was in that appearance that he was last whole and devoted to the light. Otherwise he would have to be the old gimp without arms or legs and a truly mutilated face.
Hayden-ghost makes just as much sense as that unfamiliar actor who no one equates to Darth Vader
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09.23.2010 - 03:05 | PLAYou got yourself a point. Anakin's ghost mysteriously regenerated quite a bit in the original. Just not quite to the same extent.
Honestly, the youth is barely worthy of a party trick compared to the regrown limbs and hair follicles.
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09.23.2010 - 15:14 | LimeGreenSquid
Which would completely negate the meaning behind Darth Vader being able to COME BACK to the light after being so Dark.
It completele ruined the circle. He had to be an old man, because he came back to the light before he died when he realized he loved his son enough to want to see him with his own eyes. The redemption is ruined if the ghost becomes young Anikin. It was just stupid as hell.
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09.23.2010 - 16:16 | TelajänisWell i didn't say it was a good idea, but it's an explanation.
Something to shove at those who just make up stuff to hate about the prequels.
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09.22.2010 - 21:21 | EliselleI like this format, you get a brief, to the point review of good and bad movies, as well as quite a bit of humour. We all have these moments where you are watching a movie, then are suddenly thrown out of the immersion by some bad editing or something that just felt wrong and this feels like those.
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09.22.2010 - 21:37 | pap64
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09.22.2010 - 21:54 | Lotus Prince
I was furious when Yoda hopped around in Episode 2. He's an old cripple just twenty years later? What difference should twenty years make in the scale of nine hundred? On the same note, why did Yoda look visibly younger in the prequels? 880 vs. 900 shouldn't provide that much of a visual difference.
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09.22.2010 - 22:02 | DeltoraActually Ian McDiarmid didn't play the Emperor in ESB, it was an old woman with chimpanzees' eyes added in post.
It's a rather unsettling image:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=rKtciRCVpFE
Although I think it's still his voice.
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09.22.2010 - 22:22 | Curttehmurtyou beat me to it, but McDiarmid did not voice The Emperor in the original version, it was Clive Revill
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[quote=Deltora]Actually Ian McDiarmid didn't play the Emperor in ESB, it was an old woman with chimpanzees' eyes added in post.
It's a rather unsettling image:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=rKtciRCVpFE
Although I think it's still his voice.[/quote]
Yeah, That's exactly what I was thinking. I still prefer the original to the Special Edition though.
@ Lotus Prince - There is no denying that the Prequels proved to open many holes in the original movies that were otherwise not there. And what is up with Han solo calling Jabba a "human Being" in the special edition of Episode 4? I know the original character was played by a man and then cut from the theatrical release, but it just seems stupid when he's talking to the re-imagined Jabba first seen in Episode 6.
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[quote=Deltora]Actually Ian McDiarmid didn't play the Emperor in ESB, it was an old woman with chimpanzees' eyes added in post.
It's a rather unsettling image:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=rKtciRCVpFE
Although I think it's still his voice.[/quote]
Your are quite right sir. Though no it wasn't his voice. I don't remember were but I read (or heard) that they said to him that if he could make his voice like the one in ESB they would use it otherwise they would dub it.
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09.22.2010 - 22:53 | lonewolf23k
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09.23.2010 - 00:19 | August M.
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09.23.2010 - 00:43 | danethefurry
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09.23.2010 - 00:43 | ThisIsScorpio
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Scorpio (you're my favorite fake Bond villain besides Dr. Evil, btw) :
Check out "Hang on a Second: Ep 01" ...
...you're welcome! ;)
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09.23.2010 - 00:52 | Zone
Now it COULD be that your joking, but otherwise you just dont understand what Yoda is about.
His character is completely RAPED in Episode 1,2 and 3
His power does not lie in a lightsaber and he is not a badass, he is wise and very much in contact with the force, probably more then any other from the universe.
He is no warrior but he would be able to defeat you if it was necesary, which is also why they completely fucked him over by letting him fight using a lightsaber.
He clearly said so in the original movies that jedi are much more then "this crude matter" meaning the physical self, Yoda is above that.
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09.23.2010 - 13:41 | octupus8
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09.23.2010 - 01:57 | FunkyM
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[quote=Curttehmurt]you beat me to it, but McDiarmid did not voice The Emperor in the original version, it was Clive Revill[/quote]
Great... well done you......but this isn't the original versions he's talking about. It's the special editions. The clue is in the clip!
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09.23.2010 - 02:43 | jalford
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09.23.2010 - 02:45 | Rat_haus
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[quote=Zone]Now it COULD be that your joking, but otherwise you just dont understand what Yoda is about.
His character is completely RAPED in Episode 1,2 and 3
His power does not lie in a lightsaber and he is not a badass, he is wise and very much in contact with the force, probably more then any other from the universe.
He is no warrior but he would be able to defeat you if it was necesary, which is also why they completely fucked him over by letting him fight using a lightsaber.
He clearly said so in the original movies that jedi are much more then "this crude matter" meaning the physical self, Yoda is above that.[/quote]
Well, why shouldn't Yoda fight with a lightsaber? He couldn't defeat Dooku with the Force, and even in Empire Strikes Back pulling out the X-wing seemed to tire him, so he can't use it for everything. There was never any real need for Yoda to do anything physical in the old films, plus he had all those years to meditate and not move around much.
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[quote=PLA]You got yourself a point. Anakin's ghost mysteriously regenerated quite a bit in the original. Just not quite to the same extent.
Honestly, the youth is barely worthy of a party trick compared to the regrown limbs and hair follicles.[/quote]
But WHERE IN THE HELL did he learned the ghost trick? Did Obi-Wan teach it to him in the afterlife? If that's so, then where the hell are the force ghosts of the other Jedi?
My theory: George simply forgot about the ghosts till the end of Episode III, where he just added an extra scene...
[quote=Rat_haus]Hang on a second, in the first movie all the force is ever used for is to influence the minds of others, then all of a sudden in the second movie you can move shit around? what's up with that?![/quote]
It helped to show that your physical stature doesn't matter when it comes to being a Jedi. Too bad George forgot that when he turned Yoda into a ninja made of rubber...
[quote=RD]Well, why shouldn't Yoda fight with a lightsaber? He couldn't defeat Dooku with the Force, and even in Empire Strikes Back pulling out the X-wing seemed to tire him, so he can't use it for everything. There was never any real need for Yoda to do anything physical in the old films, plus he had all those years to meditate and not move around much.[/quote]
Yoda is TOO SMALL. He's not suited for lightsaber combat (just like that master with the ridiculously long neck). And he was older and more senile (as well as out of shape) in the old trilogy.
He can't use the Force for everything, but he can jump like a maniac? How the hell does that make sense?
And do you remember how Palpatine never used a lightsaber in the old trilogy? It's because he doesn't need it anymore: he's a master of the Force, way above the need for such a weapon - just like Yoda.
There's simply no reason why Yoda wouldn't throw lots of crap at Dooku (even Vader did that in Episode V) or even use a non-lethal version of Force Lightning.
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09.23.2010 - 05:48 | KasinatorNormally I enjoy your reviews. Mock prequal yoda all you want, but NEVER mock puppet yoda.
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09.23.2010 - 07:51 | Poipoi
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09.23.2010 - 08:34 | Sylveria
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09.23.2010 - 09:22 | JonH
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09.23.2010 - 10:20 | TheBlackMage
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09.23.2010 - 13:14 | emichaelThey did take the handcuffs off.
http://www.youtube.com/ watch? v=EuuYpyib4Iw&feature=rel ated
look at the 3:30 mark
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[quote=Fracassi]
@ Lotus Prince - There is no denying that the Prequels proved to open many holes in the original movies that were otherwise not there. And what is up with Han solo calling Jabba a "human Being" in the special edition of Episode 4? I know the original character was played by a man and then cut from the theatrical release, but it just seems stupid when he's talking to the re-imagined Jabba first seen in Episode 6.[/quote]
I think it was just a joke. Corny, I think it was intentional.
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09.23.2010 - 15:09 | LimeGreenSquid
You may need a flame shield here. Not from me, but i imagine an outcry, hehe.
Mainly because you should know that the man who acted as the Emperor in the original Empire Strikes Back wasn't the same actor as the one in Jedi, who lated played in the prequels as the same character. But i guess you've been flooded by now with comments of that effect.
I did like Empire, but Jedi was always my favourite. Empire left me feeling depressed and hopeless. But i guess emotionally it was the most affecting. That's the only reason i can think of why people think it's the best. There isn't even a war in that one ... a huge battle i mean. Just a fleet against 3 or 4 ships. Still love it, though.