Ah yes, the finale to this less than stellar tale. The final battle left me wondering what the point of the Brethren Court was. They met, handed over their Pieces of Eight, and then ceased to be necessary to the story.

I did enjoy the sheer chaos of the final battle, but it would have been better if the other ships were at least fighting around the whirlpool.

Also, one quick note on Calypso...*clears throat*

Worst case of crabs EVER!

I agree about the Brethren Court. That whole plot point was what really bothered me the most about this entire movie. They spend all this time building up the fact that they need Jack back to have this meeting which will decide the future of most, if not all, pirates on the seas, and then they just sit in the background while the flagships fight. In anything in this movie was pointless, it was that. :sigh:

Good review Matthew. I'm glad to see you addressed all the issues I had with this movie and made pretty good points in general. I also really liked your inclusion of Welshy as a counterpoint. It's good to get two different perspectives on these kinds of things, and I enjoyed hearing why Welshy liked it just as much as I enjoyed hearing why you did not. =)

I don't really hate this movie, in all truth. I'm just not very fond because there are too many things that really bother me about it. I didn't even know they were making a 4th one, but here's hoping it will be good.

I would like to apologize for my angry rant of comments on the first part of this video. I should not have lost control with the ability to comment. I will try remove that comment and this one. Once again, I'm sorry.

I know I'm gonna get massively downvoted for this like I was in the first video but I hate the Pirates Of The Carribean Trilogy even though I'm a huge Johnny Depp fan I personally can't stand Jack Sparrow. The movies are long and contrived (as a whole the trilogy is over 7 hours long) not to mention unfunny with bland characters and a stupid plot. The only good thing about them are the special effects and the sets, the destruction of The Endeavour is one of the greatest special effects sequences I've ever seen.

You know what really bugs me of the reviews that Brain does... is that MOST of the time he is just saying '' see this thing? Its pointless!''

'' See that special effect? Its pointless!''

'' They could have done that thing differently so know that thing is pointless!''


I agree that movies could have pointless scenes, but you just sound like you are just nitpicking a lot!! and I mean a lot!!!

Even though i have all three on dvd this one did not hold up well on the second viewing. I remember sitting in the theater and laughing at the giant calypso, the motivational speech and the marriage because it was just so stupid. But ill admit even though we wait for an eternity the final battle was very good in my opinion.but it doesn't save the movie unfortunatley. I guess this goes down as yet another threequel that sucks

Great conclusion Brain. I kinda liked this movie at first... but there's no question it was vastly inferior to the original. Thanks.

Back when I saw this movie the first time in theaters I walked out of there with not a damn clue what happened cause I was bored almost to sleep..... the only thing I remembered was that I wanted anyone to explain what the hell just happened....

God I hated that council scene... I think the director got drunk and lost a bet to his friends and had to find a way to throw them into the movie... enjoy the next 10 minutes of mindless drivel!

Thankfully that Braveheart reference had perfect timing... Ironically, being placed next to Orlando Bloom can make Keira Knightly look as masculine as Mel Gibson...

"atleast the Twitards managed to keep their Twilight love to themselves"

Uh...

Try Twilitard...Twitards can also be used for people who waste their life posting Twitter updates all day.

First, as a wise but [i]very[/i] annoying character once said: "Okay dude; calm down. Take a chill pill. If you don't have a chill pill, take one of those chill strips. You put it on your tongue, it dissolves, [i]chill[/i]."

Second, you are a man who has lost any and all sense of scope. Comparing PotC, which started out amazing and dipped down into the mediocre as time went on, to Twilight, a mentally and morally corruptive franchise that has been all bad all the time that illustrates just how rotten American culture can be, is one of the most downright stupid things I've ever heard.

Comparing the fanbases is even stupider. Do many people like PotC? Yes. Do a lot of people like to talk about it? Probably. Do they cut off ties with friends who don't like it and may actually physically maim them? No. That is Twitard territory. Saying that the general consensus of the enjoyability of a franchise that you personally do not like is [i]worse[/i] than the pack of [s]girls[/s] [s]people[/s] trogs who are so obsessed with an unhealthy version of romance that they have shown hatred and violent hostility to anyone that criticizes it is the most idiotic thing - hands down - that I have ever seen.

You. Fail. Forever.

That's how I feel about CGI special effects. Call me old-fashioned, but I miss the realism of props & stunt doubles.

I have to admit, I loved the review, but Welshy made a LOT of good points, Kudos for adding that part in, it was good seeing the conflicting sides of hate and like.

=) Thanks Film Brain! Been looking forward to it all week.

I agree on many points that both Film brain and Welshy bring up, I agree with Welshy on Will Turner's act, though he is a big prick. But I mostly agree with FB, especially on the beginning, I mean yeah it's Disney film, kids are going to see it. Also Jack Sparrow has become a joke, he was awesome in the first movie and now man what a waste. And finally I hate Elizabeth, Keira Knightley is a good actress but damn her character is a bitch.

Great job Film Brain

I thought they were entertaining movies, not the best ever, but decent. It was ultra-lame killing the Kraken off screen like that though.

It wouldn't have killed them to add a few scenes with the rest of the court engaging the overwhelming amount of East India ships, either. Maybe have Calypso sink a few ships here there. As it is, it just felt like the whole thing was for nothing since the Pearl decided everything by herself anyways.

oh and also i agree with FB. Too much talking, not enough action.

My own stance is part-way between Matthew and Welshy. Many of the jokes FB found stale I still enjoyed, and I especially loved the Locker sequence and the endless imaginary Jack Sparrows. However, most of the plot is just a sheer blank spot in my memory: there seems to be very little meaning to the madness. It's not so much a story as it is a plot. (The queen died then the king died vs. the queen died then the king died of grief).

And while I always figured Calypso must have caused the Whirlpool Of Doom, her release always seemed greatly anti-climactic. She finally learned the one who betrayed her was actually Davy Jones, but then she just makes a whirlpool and does nothing else to the story? Or did she really just evaporate into a bunch of crabs and go on her merry way? I feel that part, what should be one of the clearest parts of the story, was muddled and confused. The swordfight/marriage I felt was way over the top at the time, but all the same I still smiled while everyone in the theater was clapping when they finally kissed. But for FSM's sake I wanted to blow my brains out when the inevitable cooing over their son began.

The speech about what noble souls the pirates are is equally confused. If the film was trying to say the East India Company was just another band of pirates, that makes sense. The way the movie turns the regular pirates into the working class heroes ruins it and is really odd, though.

I just don't see what there is to hate about the movie, it's only trying to be fun and entertaining and, in my opinion, it succeeded in that. It didn't go above and beyond, but I certainly wasn't expecting anything more than the first two. Maybe it's the popularity behind the trilogy that can make or break the experience sometimes.

I think what turned people away was the extremely baffeling story, and a movie can be just fun and still be good but make the story simple and understandable.

I think that for kids this movie doesn't work. When I was little I hated dialogue scenes. They were dull and slow. Also I don't think the younger viewers could really appreciate what this movie was trying to get across. I liked it better than the second one, which I found painfully dull, but I haven't watched it again since. I kept feeling like the story line was trying to be child friendly but adult at the same time and they just didn't pull it off.

Actually the question of whether Will remains with the Flying Dutchman at the end was a question that I had when I first saw this movie in theatres. I assumed that Will was freed: firstly because Disney loves cheesy endings and two because that is how the original myth works as depicted in Wagner’s Flying Dutchman opera.

http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ The_Flying_Dutchman_(oper a)

So its interesting that obviously when they went to write the FAQ the writer did not seem to be aware of this fact.

Strong female character! http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=JN99jshaQbY
Ugh, so annoying.

Can we excpect you to review the next on as well? =)

the explanation for the nonsense you speak of at 4:23 is Jack's insanity.

I'm rather confused as to why you seem to think this movie, or indeed this series, was meant for young kids, aside from the fact that it was made by Disney. If, in fact, the Disney name is the reason, the I would like to direct your attention to the numerous other films that Disney has produced that are directed at older kids/teens, the most recent probably being the Prince of Persia movie.

From the very beginning, it was clear that this movie was directed at an older crowd than Disney's usual target audience, with zombies and pirates and people killing each-other. As the series went on, it got darker because the kids and teenagers who saw the first one were getting older and more mature as well. By the time the third movie came out, the average age range of the people who had seen the first movie had gone from 12-16 to 15-20.

I totally agree with that. It was never mentioned that this was a kids film. In fact, every DVD box has a 12 years older thingy on it.

No one is more free than a pirate, free of laws, free to sail the earth, and free of morals. Whether that's a good thing or not is subjective but the point is that limitlessness is the romance of piracy.

The freedom of being a pirate!

I liked the film for the same reasons as Welshy Sparrow, despite its plotholes.
I'll never watch it again though.

While I actually did enjoy the Pirates trilogy, you do bring up some valid points. One thing I feel compelled to mention, your necrophilia comment. I've actually discussed this at length with a few of my psychologist friends, amongst other fetishes, I find them fascinating. Anyway, we came to the conclusion that having sex with an undead is generally not a form of necrophilia. Part of the appeal of having sex with a corpse is that it doesn't move, doesn't struggle, providing a feeling of power and control. The undead by contrast would be more or less like having sex with a live person, however, as such it is it's own fetish, which we affectionately call unnecrophilia. Granted this would depend on the type of undead, but Will would be of the sort that for all intents and purposes is alive.

Great. Maybe you can get it on one of those 'Strange Sex' programs.

assuming we stick to the 3rd movies of trilogies, in alphabetical order and not their quality:
Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith
The Matrix Revolutions
X-Men: The Last Stand

Don't forget Spiderman 3 and Shrek the third D: those were horrible.

I didn't like PotC 3 either. It doesn't exist for me just as The Mummy 3.

WHAAAT Penelope Cruz is in? Whyyyy. Im sorry but I really don't like her T_T What is so good about her anyway? T_T

after watching the full review, I have to back Welshy.

I loved this movie when I first saw it, and I still do.

I found the Kraken death mildly off-putting, but it didn't stop me from loving everything else.

The council scene is one of my FAVORITE scenes.

so what if there's lots of talking? It'd be one thing if this were the first movie; it isn't. The characters have evolved at this point. We're here to see the conclusion, and we don't need battles every 5 seconds to do it. I think they handled the battles perfectly.

Oh, and in regards to Will Turner's dark--and to some, foolish--turn, consider what Jack Sparrow said in the first movie: "Me, I'm dishonest; and a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest....[i] honestly[/i]! It's the [i]honest[/i] ones you want to watch out for; never know when they'll do something incredibly stupid." ':B-)


I've said it before and I'll say it again: Matthew, come on....you can do better than this. Review a movie that deserves it...like the Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle, or again...National Treasure 2: Book of Secrets.

Blue face paint!
-Edit: He's not a priest, he's the captain of a sea going vessel, which some for some reason makes him able to marry people.
-Edit #2: Good thing that PoTC4 Is going to keelhaul Will and elizabeth.

I have a bit of a problem with focusing on the wrong things. For the most part, I had no problem with your opinions about parts being boring or pointless. However, there was a part near the end that I can't let pass: When you mentioned how the dark tone makes it seem inappropriate for the young audience it's aimed it.
First, I think this movie would be more accurantely described as a family movie, meaning that while it won't have strictly "adult" themes, it's still deemed viewable by young'n's.
Second, kids can comprehend and cope with quite a bit more than you give them credit. Recalling NC's Top 11 Saddest Nostalgic Moments, there are two points he made that I'd like to reiterate here. First, on Don Bluth movies, kids can handle quite a bit of "mature" material, as long as there's some kind of happy ending; maybe not a "happy" ending, per se, but the movie fades out on Jack being silly, the bit that put asses in seats for all three movies. Second, his #1 moment was an amalgam of moments from numerous Disney animated movies, such as Bambi, The Lion King, and so on. Hell, I was there for The Lion King in the theatre, and I like to think I took it pretty well.