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WEASLES!

Reply to the first comment and make the text stand out. That's how you get friends and become famous. :arrow:

Who are you and why is your text bold?

How come the Apathetic One can keep doing this without some sort of reprimand? I mean, if someone cuts to the front of a line all the time, wouldn't they eventually get pushed to the back? Why can't he wait for his turn, like the rest of us?

Doing what? [i]Commenting[/i]? Sheesh.

That's a bogus excuse. If the screenplay was shit, then he had a responsibility to his reputation to turn it down. You are the type of person to cheer him on when he ripped a new asshole into idiot producers who wanted him to write a B.S. script for a superman movie.

So why doesn't it count when he, himself decides direct something as bad as any script that he's turned down?

And besides agreeing to direct a movie of and awful script, his direction of this action flick was the worst: bad editing, poor "cinematography" and wrong choices throughout the film. That was his doing, not the screenwriter.

If he'd directed a great script, then he'd get all the credit. Well he gets credit for this movie being bad. Kevin Smith hasn't made a good movie since "Dogma".

Couldnt agree more. Weasles. btw i agree i fucking HATE HATE HATE HATE Tracy Morgan!

Oh please... I liked that movie ! And don't blame everything on the guy, he didn't even come out with the script & story.

He did direct it, though. A director isn't just a guy who puts his name on a movie - he actually works with it, makes decisions and tells people what to do. But yes, he didn't mastermind it all on his own, and there is a plenty of targets for the blame.

[color=green]I admit it took me a little while to see where you were going with this video DW, but I actually think you made a pretty solid point on Smith's current directing status. I haven't seen any of Smith's films (only heard of them), so the rundown of his history and some added opinion helped me catch up to speed. It does strike me as sad to have such a good director slip from their heights (as many a good artist has), and a wake up call like this is never a bad guiding force.

Next time though, it might be wiser to not try and be so...personal to make a point. I'm very sorry for the loss of your father, but mentioning his death, just to compare your opinion on a movie, felt disjointed. Heavy emotions are a rather risque way to make a point. At the very least, I think this would have been better off kept in your personal collection, and not uploaded to a site that's more satirical/critically heavy than emotional. Admirable, absolutely, just not fitting for TGWTG (in my opinion).

P.S. I apoligize if I'm missing something representative, but the pandas in the background threw me off a bit. Not really a problem, just more of a "what the?" type reaction.[/color]

Kevin did his sell out(or cop out) movie with a script he didn't write to fund his Drama/Comedy he is working on called Hit Somebody, since he cant get any funding for anything as of now, taking one for the team if you will.


He said he was writing it in the vein of Chasing Amy, so I honestly cant wait for Hit Somebody, I have faith it will be his best movie to date,

As for cop out I will have to watch it to decided but it looks like middle of the road meh film.

I do agree with you on everything else though.

What's the one thing in common with all of Kevin Smith's movies before Cop Out?

He wrote them all. HE WROTE THEM ALL
He didn't write this one. He took this on for a job, not to make a film.

Get the fucking facts right Terroja.

[quote=montypython2011] What's the one thing in common with all of Kevin Smith's movies before Cop Out?

He wrote them all. HE WROTE THEM ALL
He didn't write this one. He took this on for a job, not to make a film.

Get the fucking facts right Terroja.[/quote]

I have to completely agree and I have to ask, you seem to be so familiar with Smith's work, therefor, how did you not realize CopOut was not written by him.

Did you purposely mislead the viewer to make your point more profound. Did you honestly assume that it was because Smith is not known for simply directing movies but writing and directing.

Either way that was a pretty big omission on your part that in the end hurt your argument in your video.

Man, you're going to get some shit from this video, but I see what you mean and you made a great point. Hopefully Hit Somebody will be better. It's already sounding like Kev's planning an epic return to form with it. I'm holding out hope for that.

oh stop playing with Kevin Smith TJ!

It really seemed like you just wanted to hate the general negeativiy around some of his movies.
Sorry for your loose, but really?
You're going to compare the death of a family member to how bad you think a movie was?

Thats just in bad taste

[color=#bd527b]Was Cop out just a Copout to the studios who insisted a movie be made in a given time frame even if there was no movie idea ready?

I actually like the actors you mentioned as poison to comedy. But I like it better when they aren't the ones in a plot trying to be funny.

Here's hoping that this Video letter gets received. all the points are good even though I consider Dogma his Second to Worst film. Just my opinion. That movie pushed all of my buttons it could the wrong way. But hey it got reactions while copout I forgot I had actually watched it until someone else who was there reminded me.[/color]

[i]Sell Out[/i] is a more fitting title.

Nice Review DW I was gonna check this movie out since it was directed by Kevin Smith but not now thanx.

The moral of this story: Kevin Smith movies are only good when he writes them too.

Milking your father's death for comedy? You really are an amazing asshole. Also, your favorite is Dogma, what a [b]huge[/b] surprise.

Anyway, the problem all stems from one fact, and that's that he didn't write. Apparently, he simply got a hold of Warner Brothers and let them know he wanted to direct a movie, and they recommended this one. So he decided to take it.

But the thing I can't understand is that they actually hired KEVIN FUCKING SMITH to direct. I mean, he's Kevin Smith! He can certainly write, and he does a good job on his own movies, but I would never call the guy a great director. A great film-maker yes, but if this movie is anything like you said, then apparently he can't direct movies he isn't very involved in. Which honestly, I would have guessed [i]that[/i] from the beginning, if only based on what he's said in the "Evening with Kevin Smith" series.

he didn't write it. he only directed it. he wrote all those other movies

The fact is Kevin Smith didn't write the Script/Story for "Cop Out". He was doing something new, making a movie that would be appealing to more people beyond "Kevin Smith fans". For a director to go and try to film a story off a script written by someone else is not likely an easy task, especially the first time around. This isn't the traditional Kevin Smith film.

Also "Jersey Girl" is not a bad movie. I find it to be his version of a family flick, and its good for what it was.

When I first saw your videos, before you were brought onto Channel Awesome, I thought your trailer failure vids were awful and derivative.

Since then, you have proven numerous times in videos such as this one, and in your reviews and top-tens that you are probably the most knowledgeable and passionate about film-making, story telling and art of anyone at Channel Awesome.

I enjoy hearing you speak about film. The passion is stirring and you're gifted with a talent for words and eloquent expression. Please do more of this. I want to see you attack people's sensibilities and intellects with your forthright and informed opinion.

I can see people calling you an elitist, I tend to consider myself elitist in my tastes as well, and it is far from a bad thing. To expect more is to reach for the higher ideals of human nature and art.

Keep this up.

Alright, DW, good point. I can see where you're coming from, and this video to Kevin Smith is worth it, because he, thankfully, pays attention to his online fanbase. I love the movies I've seen of his (just the ViewAskewniverse ones), and it saddens me to hear he did bad with Cop Out (haven't seen it, still kinda want to). I hope this kinda thing won't happen with him again, and that he can get back to his Kevin Smithy excellence.

But bringing up the death of your father like that was kind of unnecessary, and a little mean-hearted. I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm glad to see you've accepted it enough to talk about it in such a manner, but it's really not a nice thing to do. You can't just guilt trip people, or Kevin Smith like that. You're an adult and you should be above that. It really just makes things awkward, and I think many people will get offended. I'd advise to removing that bit out of the video and/or maybe making a slight apology to people who could've been offended or felt unnecessarily guilty.

I'm a fan of yours as well as Smith, so I say this hoping you don't get hated on by a lot of people.

Oh, and aside from the part in the beginning - very good video, man. You really have a knack for talking, you sound very intelligent. You make very detailed, and good points. I may not agree with a choice, or be knowledgable enough with cinema to know what you're picking for a top 10 spot, but you explain your choices very eloquently so I get some nice insight on things I may be interested in. You should really keep this thing up, but I still love your Trailer Failure vids, and miss the snide recap.

Every time I hear that Kevin Smith directed "Cop Out" I just refuse to believe them. It must be some bizarro world Kevin Smith. Cause that would make more sense than knowing that he was on the production of something of that low caliber.

Smith probably wanted a chance to work with Bruce Willis and decided to do a crappy comedy script in order to do it. At least that's what I think.

Dude!

I LOVE Kevin Smith!

Yes, I will agree that Dogma was by FAR his best film... in fact... it is my favorite film of all time.

COP OUT was NOT a bad movie. It was a good movie (not great... good). I think what it missed was what Kevin is best at. WRITING! Why are his films so great... the writing.

Watch the three Evenings with Kevin Smith. Lots of insight about him and his life, and how he got to work with Bruce Willis. Great stuff.

Back to Cop Out. YES, it had a lot of moments that were done over and over again. It was SATISFYINGLY predictable. But if you are going to pick the film apart on Kevin's side... focus on what he was responsible for. Directing. Kevin is starting to get a brush stroke. Starting to get to the point where you can tell it is him by the LOOK of the film. I do think that much of what he does directorly is typical. Strike that... Simple. Simple is a great choice when you put it next to the overly complex Avatar and Alice in Wonderland (BTW... Avatar was a lame movie).

To wrap up. COP OUT. Good Movie. Distressed Watcher... You are the one who I am running out of energy for. Don't get me wrong. It takes balls to do what you do. But I could only watch a few Trailer Failures and started to feel that you were only bitching to bitch. This reivew of COP OUT is kind of typical for you my good sir. Attacking the wrong part of the work. The movie not funny? (I thought it was) Don't forget that he did not write this one. You do not like Bruce's acting? (I had no problem) Okay... I can see a 50-50 blame on that. The director has some responsibility on that. Again... I had no issue with Bruce here.

Anyway.

DW... I DISAGREE WITH YOU for the most part.
DW... I DO RESPECT YOU. Just not that into your work bud.

TJ is an asshole, yes, but he's always making good points, even if it's sometimes in bad taste. He's unapologetic, and earnest, and that's what I like about his videos, whether they be Amazing Atheist or Distressed Watcher vids.

That said, I didn't think much of Chasing Amy, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is only good for a cheap laugh, but I usually love Smith's films, especially Clerks and Dogma.

I think Smith is still sort of finding himself as an artist, though. I mean, should he keep doing Askewverse projects forever? At least he's trying new things, even if they're not working out that well. I really hope he finds some greater project, one that doesn't involve bitching about airline seats.

Something I'm sure TJ can relate with Smith on.

There's a pretty reasonable excuse to me why it sucked.


"This is the first movie Kevin Smith has directed, but not written"


He wasn't even able to use the name
he wanted to, A couple of dicks.

I would agree with you completely if Kevin Smith wrote it. I think he just really wanted to direct Bruce Willis in something. maybe there are more reasons I don't know about.

Movie that is worse than death of your father? That has to be truly horrible movie in that case.

I'm sorry man, but that is just not appropriate. Using your dead dad as a cheap comparison to a bad Kevin Smith movie?

That's not funny. I mean that's not even meta-cynical sadist funny. I was going "My mother lost her father the exact same way. Just poof one night he dies. She never really got over it, you know? The suddenness, the triviality of her last words. It's the kind of thing that haunts you I gue-" then you go for the joke and I just...lost all interest in hearing your opinion.

Why not make a joke about the Holocaust next? Or slavery? Got any good slavery jokes?

Obviously none of you follow Mr. Smith on Twitter. He took multiple pay cuts to make this movie, so the comments about him doing it for the money are rather baseless. And yes it is a derivative cliched movie that is nothing but one hackneyed scene after another. . . because it is supposed to be. It is lampooning the various buddy cop movies as much as it was itself.

The first scene perfectly mocked the "wacky cops doing stupid things that should never work but do" mentality that is present in so many comedic cop movies. That scene, although he didn't write it, captured for me the essence of Kevin Smith that I hoped for in this movie.

In short, it "had me from 'Happy Anniversary'."

Yes, like so many said before, the difference is that Smith didn't write this one. You should listen to his "Smodcast" audio blog, where he made it clear (he didn't say it like i write it here, but over the span of several episodes) that the he basically had 3 reasons to do this movie: 1.) He wanted to see how it is to direct somebody elses movie. 2.) He wanted to work with Bruce Willis again. 3.) He needed sort of a break after the disappointing box office performance of "Sack and Miri". The last point he definitely didn't say out loud, but it seems to be said between the lines in Smodcast. Also i think after bombing a movie, he could use the buzz of having his name attached to a Bruce Willis movie to easier get funding for his next project, but that is just my own suspicion and he didn't say anything like that.

I thought it was funny. Not really funny, but funny.