Episode 57: My Little Pony Retrospective Part 1
Written by CR Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:19
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09.14.2011 - 06:36 | DarkBee
He's not a brony, none of you are: you just watch a show that's originally intended for little girls.
There's nothing inherently wrong with that (I just finished watching Totally spies, and I have Witch and Winx club on my to watch-list), but don't make a religion out of it when it's only been 1 season.
I admit I watched the original series when I was a kid, and thought it was okay, but I have since moved on.
(No, I'm not a bro and I'm not mad, I just don't get what the fuss is all about.)
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09.14.2011 - 07:26 | QuestionTheMajority
"Brony" isn't a religion. At least, it isn't for those of us who aren't criminally insane. It's just a humorous term for male fans of the series. Every series has its nickname for fans, after all. Trekkies, MSTies, Whovians... No reason to get frustrated about it.
Now, with that out of the way, my wife initially introduced me to the My Little Pony cartoons as she collects the toys and had the original movie on tape. I was pleasantly surprised at how not bad it was. It wasn't really good, mind you, but it had its moments. Spike was adorable and funny and Mr. Moochik (whom CR disappointingly panned off merely as "Grandfather Mushroom") was played by Tony Randall. TONY RANDALL! This movie had Felix Ungar in it, for crying out loud!
So, yeah, the Generation 1 cartoons weren't all that bad. They had some neat adventures and both my wife and I loved Spike and... I think it was Wisteria. I don't know. It was the pony who spoke over everyone's heads all the time. I love cartoons that aren't afraid to use big words and encourage kids to learn.
However, Generation 2... Ugh... Both my wife and I hated it. Keep in mind that as far as entertainment goes, I'm more "girly" than she is. I get more attached to the characters and am more interested in the emotional connections between them. My wife, on the other hand, just wants to see good guys fight bad guys and hopefully see things blow up in the process. Naturally, she was displeased with the lack of adventures in Generation 2, and I... well... WHERE WAS SPIKE, DAMMIT? I loved that little purple dragon!
Generation 3. Ugh again. Generation 2 with even weaker stories. At least the animation was pretty.
Generation 3.5? What is tha--OH MY GOD! TAKE IT AWAY! TAKE IT AWAY!!! WHAT NEW SPORE OF HELL HAS HASBRO UNLEASHED!? THE GREAT OLD ONES ROAM THE EARTH ONCE MORE! IT'S THE END OF DAYS! Good God, those things were ugly.
Never saw the baby pony cartoons until this review. I'd like to keep it that way.
And, finally, Generation 4. WOW! My wife and I had no interest in a new pony cartoon as we figured it was going to be more of the Generation 3 crap, but after seeing all of the fanart and references to the new cartoon online, I figured "Eh... Why not? I'll check it out." I'm so glad I did! It's funny, it has truly epic adventures (One character stares down a cockatrice in one episode! How is that NOT awesome?), and it's brilliantly written from its clever dialogue that appeals to both children and adults and its absolutely fantastic musical numbers that feel like something out of a Broadway musical. Also, they have the guts to drop anvils on pony's heads. Never thought I'd see that in a My Little Pony cartoon. Or any cartoon these days, for that matter. Oh, and Spike was finally back! Granted, he didn't have the voice of Charlie Adler anymore, but you can't have everything!
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09.14.2011 - 07:26 | QuestionTheMajority
So, yes, I am a Brony. I have been a Brony even before Generation 4. It is not a religion for me. I'm just a guy who thinks cartoons about talking horses can be pretty fun. Especially if they involve falling anvils and cute purple dragons.
And I just realized I left a comment so long I needed to break it into two.
Maybe Brony IS a religion, after all!
Nah. I'm just a long-winded shmuck.
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09.14.2011 - 14:00 | doctortanksano
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09.13.2011 - 18:54 | Mexired
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09.13.2011 - 19:00 | sonicchica
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A MLP retrospective. That can only mean that you're gonna get to reviewing FIM at some point, and OH BOY, i cannot wait for that.
A CR review of a character from MLP: FIM. that is literally 2 of my favorite things combined into one.
i should mention that it was you Character in 5 seconds of pinkie pie that god me interested in the series. Hell, I think you're the only one whose even mentioned the show up to this point (other than a small skit by Nash, but I digress). Makes me wonder what character you plan on talking about, since pretty much every character (even the background ones) have had some attention.
any way, I'm so exited about the new season and the episode you have planed I literally can't sit still.
Brohoof Brony. see ya September 17th!
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09.13.2011 - 19:20 | LtSanan
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09.13.2011 - 22:16 | squigscarmichael
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09.13.2011 - 19:33 | Nycea
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09.13.2011 - 20:01 | Sonicrose
LOL You know CR? I'm a girl and I don't like MLP Tales. It didn't hold my interest when the show was on - If I wanted Babysitter's club, I'd watch Babysitter's club (And I did.)
Aside the pilot episode, I never really watched the original series much. I went back in time via Youtube and found some older episodes. I was pleasantly and somewhat shockingly surprised to see that every other episode seemed to have an actual villain. I like it. Tirak was totally on loan from He-Man lol.
At the point MLPFIM came along I had given up all hope of there ever being a good MLP series... until a Brony converted me. Amen.
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09.14.2011 - 02:38 | HanSK
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G1's movies actually were decent, though I;m not counting the theatrical one (Those witches were one-dimensional and suck major ass IMHO).
I'll definitely agree that G1 is bttter than G2, which is better than G3, which is worse than G2, but especially worse than G1.
The shows still suck and I'd thinking the same if it weren't for G4-FiM.
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09.14.2011 - 04:18 | Schwarzer Ritter@S-3
Not really. I watched some old episodes on youtube out of curiosity and Rescue at Midnight Castle is quite good.
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09.14.2011 - 13:37 | S-3
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09.13.2011 - 20:03 | Philip164
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09.13.2011 - 20:09 | dragonfly_dust
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09.14.2011 - 03:18 | ender1200
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09.14.2011 - 12:46 | Vismutti
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09.13.2011 - 20:21 | Katharina
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09.13.2011 - 20:22 | lollypopalopicusTo quote Richard the warlock from LFG web-comic
"FOR PONIES!"
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09.13.2011 - 20:23 | webfox100
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09.13.2011 - 20:26 | KaitlynMutt
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09.13.2011 - 21:50 | Divide By Zero
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09.14.2011 - 16:11 | JetstreamGW
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09.13.2011 - 20:30 | Readingeye
Excellent!
I never bothered to seek out the backstory of my brony center, and now I can do so in a much more enjoyable- the fudge are those baby things?!
All joking aside, I happily await my little pony retrospective the 2nd.
Now I'm gonna go find a doctor, my kidneys and eyeballs just swapped places.
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Why guys around my age(25) would like this shows now and other Disney move that seem to be aim to girls?
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09.13.2011 - 21:16 | WhiteEyedCat
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09.14.2011 - 00:39 | kijikunThis yes!
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09.14.2011 - 08:31 | Lan
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While MLP:FiM is aimed at girls, there's a lot of positive qualities about it that makes it appealing to a broader audience. The animation is pleasant to look at, the characters have depth, the conflicts, while kind of mundane at times, are easy to relate to, there's life lessons to be learned without them shoving it down our throats, and in general it's just a boatload of fun to watch. There's something for everyone here if given a chance.
Season 2 starts Saturday, September 17, 2011 on the HUB. http://www.hubworld.com/ Give it a shot if you haven't already. You can also find the first season episodes online if you look hard enough. If/when they release on DVD/BD I would recommend anyone who enjoys the series to buy them and show their support.
I'm Fox and I'm proud to be a brony. :D
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09.13.2011 - 20:34 | CTOONfan1
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09.13.2011 - 21:57 | Divide By Zero
What annoys me most about those baby ponies is that there are actually people in this world who genuinely believe that "targeted at a female audience" means "mush-minded, treacle dipped, and totally devoid of any concept more complex than what to have for dinner".
....and, you know, that they get paid for it.
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09.13.2011 - 20:46 | eviljim
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09.13.2011 - 20:48 | GBaase
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09.13.2011 - 20:53 | Cferra
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09.13.2011 - 20:53 | lonewolf23k
To sum up his thoughts for those who don't feel like watching the video:
G1: Cutsey-Wutsey, flat characters, but awesome villains.
G2: OMG Boys and Makeovers!
G3-1: The Diabetes-endurcing era. Dull, boring characters with dumb stories.
G3-2: Incredibly DUMB characters, blatant merchandise-shilling.
G3-3: GAAAAHH!! KILL IT! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!
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09.13.2011 - 20:55 | snakes3425Hasbro's definition of G3 Ponies: They were fired after 30 seconds and shot into the flaming heart of the sun
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09.13.2011 - 21:10 | WhiteEyedCat
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09.13.2011 - 22:20 | Rockabore
CR, you're Pinkie Pie in 5 seconds video is one of the reasons I checked out MLP:FiM (before that I never heard of the show actually). So I'd like to just say, thanks! *brohoof*
The first series wasn't that bad actually, I think that we owe a lot to Rescue at Midnight Castle for inspiring Lauren Faust, plus it was one of the only things pre MLP:FiM thing to actually treat the audience to a show that wasn't entirely girly and had a threatening villain and the characters were the prototypes for the ones we love and they were well animated.
I just remembered the G1 episode with the Big Brother Ponies, it was actually a pretty good episode since the villain was pretty interesting. She's kinda the prototype to Mother Gothel with the whole youth thing and actually even looks similar. The creepy thing is when she sucked the youth from the girl ponies they had saggy, wrinkled turtle faces. I wonder if that freaked out the kids back then knowing their pretty ponies would someday age so horribly.
Gen 3.5 is so horrifying how those ponies move around, it doesn't help that they're all generic girly stereotypes and that the show seems more tailored around a 2-6 year old audience since any kid older than that would find it too babyish.
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09.13.2011 - 21:32 | KaitlynMutt
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09.13.2011 - 21:30 | ORCACommander
you have to mention his in your gen 4 episode.
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=O_Q6M6pO_2s
thanks for this CR it is really helping me out with understanding what this new my little pony phenomenon is although i will admit despite all the bright colors i do like the high quality animation of gen 4 but sometimes the ponies look downright creepy from what i have seen recycled into avatars and various clips
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09.13.2011 - 22:02 | Aqua Fox
Very well done. I remember as a little girl not watching MLP except for some of the movies or featured films. Back story for the the cat woman would have been nice.
Who was the little girl? Just wondering. Reminded me of me as a little girl and wanting to watch stuff with action, having some of my toys be the 'bad guys', and pretending to be a pirate, ninja, or witch.
Haven't seen too much of MLP:FIM but from what I've seen I like it thus far.
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09.13.2011 - 22:06 | Voltra-The-LivelyOkay, I'll admit it. I never was interested in MLP before G4. The only interaction I had with it before came from my sisters and their G3 playsets. Yeah, not such a great start...
But some of the old stuff looks like something to look into, if for the history at the very least. Thanks for the review CR!
Also... I know why CR looks so freaked out on the title card. Just thought I'd mention since no one else did.
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09.17.2011 - 12:29 | BagOfMagicFoodThe art style makes me think that's Melody, not Firefly, though they do look pretty similar.
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09.13.2011 - 22:17 | Sploich