It's great to see the Krampus myth get more exposure. Thanks for helping shed some light on this interesting character (and for bringing up the awesome CarnEvil ^_^)
Episode 45: Krampus
Written by CR Monday, 13 December 2010 23:26
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Comments (102)
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12.14.2010 - 00:44 | Floweramon
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12.14.2010 - 01:02 | kiwifruit
Can I just say, Santa and the krampus on a motorcycle: Awesome
also, I am so adding a Krampus themed movie to this: http:// thatguywiththeglasses.com /blogs/latest/entry/the- cinema-snob-movie-a- collaborative-fan-script- part-1
Thanks for the inspiration!
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12.14.2010 - 00:57 | The_Awesometeer
Love the grinch/krampus picture
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12.14.2010 - 01:01 | DorknessFalls
Educational and awesome.
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12.14.2010 - 01:03 | King Piccolo Daimao
Awesome outro and stinger.
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12.14.2010 - 01:04 | Mad_Man_Moony
Nice little history lesson CR. Lots of facts even I didn't know (and I have more useless knowledge than a Trivial Pursuit cheat sheet). Oddly enough St. Nick was based on a philanthropist that was a huge supporter of the Spanish Inquisition and publicly beat "heathens" at the stake.
And concerning that DeviantArt comment: Don't YOU have a DeviantArt Account good sir?
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12.14.2010 - 17:37 | TragicGuineaPig
Except that St. Nicholas of Myra lived some 1200 years before the Inquisition. But he did punch Arius in the face at the Council of Nicea.
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12.14.2010 - 23:16 | Mad_Man_MoonyThanks for correcting me, I must have read some bum material. Better hit the books again.
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03.20.2011 - 15:00 | Lucia32Well to be fair, how that went down is up for debate. In fact, one of Arius's own supporters, Theognis recounted that it was Arius who started the confrontation by seizing Nicholas.
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12.14.2010 - 01:05 | Saxton HaleYou're right about Deviantart being a horrible place.
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12.14.2010 - 01:19 | DuosAngel
Wow I never thought I'd see Krampus mentioned outside of Wikipedia. I had actually started to forget about him since I only found out about him while researching the origins of Santa.
I squeed when you brought up CarnEvil. I LOVE that game. Never got got to see Krampus though (I really suck at it).
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12.14.2010 - 01:21 | angel85
You're totally right, I be a Krampus movie would be a much better holiday release than Jack Black in Gulliver's Travels. You know, it's actually pretty interesting that for a brief time, the Christian religion was actually open to accepting new ideas and traditions, and acted as a force of unification for a whole empire, which is admirable. Too bad that time period's equivalent of the conservative religious right took control and caused the whole "Dark ages" thing that set back western civilization 1600 years.
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03.20.2011 - 13:17 | Lucia32"The Christian religion was actually open to accepting new ideas and traditions, and acted as a force of unification for a whole empire, which is admirable. Too bad that time period's equivalent of the conservative religious right took control and caused the whole "Dark ages" thing that set back western civilization 1600 years."
Wrong on multiple levels.
The whole "Christianity caused the Dark Ages" is a myth and in fact, the exact opposite is true: The church saved western civilization by preserving and even advancing knowledge that would have been lost otherwise.
Give this link a view:
http:// armariummagnus.blogspot.c om/2009/10/gods- philosophers-how- medieval-world.html
...and I suggest you give the book it reviews, "God's Philosophers" (by James Hannam) a look, as it proves how wrong you are.
I would also recommend, "Galileo goes to Jail" (by Ronald Numbers), as it more than proves my point as well.
Sorry, but you are wrong, angel.
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You forgot to mention Horror Video games that take place during christmas, although this might be because there probably isnt many, but you'd think you'd know about Parasite Eve considering how your the "things no one knows about" Expert. btw, I think people are paying too much to what you said about DeviantArt, forgetting not only do you have your own account, but you supply your own artwork for your vids and link to your account is right under the video.
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12.14.2010 - 01:32 | Jenx
While this was good and informative, it isn't really that shocking of a thing. The only christian thing about Christmas was that someone decided "hey let's celebrate Jesus's birthday then!" Also, forget Saint Nickolas - some historians seem to think that one of the images that influenced Santa Clause even before that (and got integrated into St. Nick's image) was that of Odin. Yeah, the same Odin - Gallow's God, God of War, Death and Magic....so yeah, some horny (no pun intended) sprite who runs around flogging kids? Come on, that's nothing!
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03.20.2011 - 14:00 | Lucia321. Actually Christmas was about Jesus's birthday from the start. The rest of the crap came later just because they wanted to make the feast day a bigger event and attract more people.
2. "Some Historians"? Yeah, probably not reputable ones. The Odin/Santa Clause (or rather Sinterklaas, since Santa Claus is a North American idea) parallel is on shakey ground at best, and only relies on vague generalizations of their abilities and vague descriptions of appearance. Also, it has been proven that there no such traditions (gift giving or preparation) connected with Norse beliefs about Odin. So no, Sinterklaas is not based on Odin. He was most likely based on Nikolaos of Myra.
Read Bennet's "The True St. Nicholas" and Forbes's "Christmas: A Candid History".
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12.14.2010 - 02:23 | sailor_muffin
I'm german and I remember in kindergarden we were visited by St Nick and his Krampus.
Yeah, this was normal.
No wonder I'm so messed up
(btw, the bedtime story about the thumbs? Yeah, I got it read to when I was about 5. What the hell?)
In my area, the Krampus is only called that when he's teamed up with St Nick.
When there is a whole bunch of them running around and hitting people (no joke, they really do that) they are called the 'perchten'.
The 'perchtenlauf' is a big event in the time before christmas. Most of the time, people in the costumes are drunk as hell and hit everyone in reach, kids too.
Needless to say, a lot of fights break loose during a perchtenlauf, sometimes ending in hospital.
Tradition, ladies and gentleman and those who have still to decide!
I always hid in the school bathrooms when they were at my school.
The costumes are kind of awesome, but I'm not a fan of being hit without a safeword...
(sorry if my english sucks...)
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12.14.2010 - 02:38 | ParasiteOh yeah, Krampus & Perchtenlauf...my shins still hurt ^_^
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12.14.2010 - 02:37 | ArtticWitchica
Lol I just watched the Christmas Dr. Venture Episode tonight XD
I went "Hey isn't that who CR supposed to review tonight right?"
I know of Krampus though. You were wrong about him last being seen on Venture Brothers though. He made his appearance during the Supernatural Christmas special :3
So due your homework fully next time XD
Awesome history lesson though, I like your point about how The Krampus Day seems like true peace on earth.
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12.14.2010 - 02:41 | Tom Smith
Man, so much of Christmas is from so many other cultures. The fact that Christmas happens on the 25 (not when Jesus was born) because that was when a pagan holiday for the sun god occurs.
The bible says that Christmas trees are bad, http:// www.biblegateway.com/ passage/?search=Jeremiah% 2010:1-12&version=NIV
And reindeers come from people getting high off of reindeer urine. http://www.cracked.com/ article_17032_7-species- that-get-high-more-than- we-do.html
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12.14.2010 - 17:42 | TragicGuineaPigYou might want to check the entire passage there. It's about making idols, that is, images of gods. Since the Christmas tree isn't an image of a god, it doesn't apply.
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03.20.2011 - 13:59 | Lucia32"The fact that Christmas happens on the 25 (not when Jesus was born) because that was when a pagan holiday for the sun god occurs."
Wrong. There were no holidays on the 25th, before Christmas came about in the Western World. The holiday you are thinking of, The Sol Invictus came about in the 2nd Century AD. The Feast of the Nativity (aka Christmas) was first celebrated (at least the first recorded celebration by the Early Christians) in the 1st Century AD. So Christmas actually predates the Sol Invictus. Also, the Sol Invictus's days of celebration varied between the 25th, the 21st and the 23rd (depending on source and province in the Roman Empire).
The date on the 25th originally came about because of an early estimation about when Christ was born and when he died by the early Christians in the 1st Century.
"Christmas: A candid history" demonstrates this.
Also, your line about Idolatry and trees does not apply because a tree is not a graven image nor is it worshiped.
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12.14.2010 - 02:45 | foxbomber5
Nice show, but you say "... pervert or artsy-fartsy weirdo" like it's a bad thing.
I forgot about the version in Carnevil. It didn't even dawn on me that he was based on something real. You learn something new every day.
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You must have forgotten Scandinavia, cuz it's in central europe it is celebrated...the alps aren't in the north!
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12.14.2010 - 04:04 | Shinigami
For otherwise well done reseach for this video you made mistake that Wolfdude mentioned. Thats actually kinda shame becouse this was otherwise good video.
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12.14.2010 - 04:07 | jalford
THE KRAMPUS IS MAKING AN APPEARANCE IN THE UPCOMING "TOP COW HOLIDAY SPECIAL" COMIC WITH JINGLE BELLE WRITTEN BY PAUL DINI & DRAWN BY STEPHANIE GLADDEN. YOU CAN SEE SOME SKETCHES OF HIM FROM IT AT:
http:// media.photobucket.com/ image/recent/shimaera/ KrampusRuff.jpg
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12.14.2010 - 04:17 | BasilI'm glad to know this now. Now I understand more of Team 4 Stars christmas special...though admittedly not much more.
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12.14.2010 - 04:25 | FunkyM
Great vid CR.
Though I'm confused. You've spelled it Krampus, and pronounced it Krumpus, which suggests it's actually "Krahm-puss".
But if it is Krumpus, then the Germanic Pronunciation would most likely be "Kroom-puss"
Ah, whatever. I go!
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12.14.2010 - 04:54 | Paspartour
I guess i shouldn't be spoiling. But the Finnish movie Rare Exports has the Scandinavian version of the Krampus, the Joulu Pukki witch translates to Christmas Goat. BTW excellent movie.
Heres a Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=9RQlikX4vvw
EDIT: I should have probably also mentioned that even our Santa has been Americanized and ruined if you look up Joulu Pukki you wont find anything else but that witch Coca Cola created.
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12.14.2010 - 05:01 | Rutina
I think that Rare Exports santa is more like old Finnish Joulupukki. Before colasanta was "invented" Santa was the kind of guy that kids DID NOT want to come in the house.
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12.14.2010 - 05:20 | Redrallylol yeah
I grew up in the German migrant community of London and that story with the thumbs cut off was one I read regularly. I never liked the pictures...
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12.14.2010 - 05:27 | Coolclaytonywhat a coincidence! You may or may not have herd that im trying to get a comic called Kannon the Koala off the ground. Santa claus is going to be an important character to the plot and the Krumpus will be locked up in his dungeon at the north pole because he grew to detest his former partner's crule methods of punishing naughty children.
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12.14.2010 - 05:33 | CoolclaytonyHe's preparing his spit, he's getting the spice, he's gonna roast you up real nice. The Krumpus man is coming to town.
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12.14.2010 - 09:08 | Usbcheater
Hey we did not ruin him, He's been like this since 1500! You guys made him fat! and moved his fat ass from the warm and heavenly Spain to the lonely cold North Pole. You ruined Sinterklaas!! Damn you Coca-cola and Hallmark DAMN YOU!! :P
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12.14.2010 - 06:00 | malhex
holy crap! somebody else remembers carnEVIL!?!?! i am shocked.
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Thanks. Since I'm from Austria, i loved your little excurse into our mythology.
When i was young we used to make them mad by throwing firecrackers near them and running away.
It's hard to describe the feeling you get, when the streets in your small town are literally "flooded" with those monsters and you attract the attention of a pack, so they all come after you and you're looking for a safe place to hide.
But since they are "krampusse" and no Zombies they can be quite fast and you and your friends can get quite a beating cuz you asked for it.
(and yeah it's kind of a test of courage thing, and yeah in our country you're allowed to drink beer at the age of 16, which helps your courage quite a lot, and yeah it's kinda stupid, but hey, i would do it again...)
And as far as i know christians are aware of
christmas in it's pagan form as "sol invictus", otherwise they would'nt celebrate the birth of jesus on this day, while referring to him as the "light" of the world.
But i don't know how your loony Christian free churches in the states handle this...
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03.20.2011 - 13:46 | Lucia32The Sol Invictus came about in the 2nd Century AD. The Feast of the Nativity (aka Christmas) was first celebrated (at least the first recorded celebration by the Early Christians) in the 1st Century AD. So Christmas actually predates the Sol Invictus. Also, the Sol Invictus's actually days of celebration varied between the 25th, the 21st and the 23rd.
Also, Christ was referred to as "The Light of World" because of his words in John 8:12,
“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
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12.14.2010 - 06:21 | EnakX1. Yes, the thumb cutting story is true. It's called "Die Geschichte vom Daumenlutscher" from the book "Struwwelpeter".
2. I'm Austrian, so I know a lot about Krampus. First of all, there are no Krampii, just as there are no octopii. Say Krampusses. Second, the most accurate way to pronounce it is "Crumb-poos". Krampus Day is on December the 5th, while "Nikolaustag" (St. Nicholas' Day) is on the 6th. St. Nicholas and the Krampus traditionally don't come on Christmas to bring presents, and neither does Santa, but the Christkind (i.e. "Baby Jesus", "Christ the Child"). The interesting thing is that while Catholics came up with Saint Nicholas who became popular in Protestant America and Great Britain, Martin Luther came up with the Christkind which became popular primarily in Catholic Austria and Germany.
3. Damn there is a lot of love for Austria on TGWTG. Awesome ^^
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12.14.2010 - 07:47 | dipper.fGET YOUR PRONUNCIATION STRAIGHT! even colbert can say Krampus. And they still celebrate it here in austria.
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