AVP: Requiem
Written by Blockbuster Buster Monday, 16 January 2012 01:25
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01.16.2012 - 02:07 | DMasterUgh, this movie. Truly, the worst of humanity.
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01.16.2012 - 02:24 | BooRat
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01.16.2012 - 02:30 | thegloriousbasterdDude, it was a PREGNANT woman! It was just sick. Why? they nuke the whole place anyway. Why have this kind of sick, perverted imagery in your crappy movie. Nothing but twisted shock value.
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01.16.2012 - 04:04 | RestlessVagabond
Who cares if it was a pregnant woman? Are they somehow magically less susceptible to violence in real life just because they're pregnant? No? So why should they be protected in movies? It IS just a movie after all, not real life. No pregnant women were forcibly impregnated with aliens during the filming of this feature. Get over yourself.
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01.16.2012 - 04:29 | plaidman
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01.16.2012 - 05:11 | welovemario
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Being a future father, I agree with putting this debate this way. They should have more heavily implied perhaps. However, they might have been attempting to show how aliens have absolutely no regard for human life of any description, young or old. These are not a different type of person, but are the total opposite of human/humanity and/or the predators.
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01.16.2012 - 02:39 | Perzyn
I actually like place being nuked. I assumed it was Predator's backup plan if he was taken out, to have his ship drop a nuke on his body to take out the nest or whatever (I mean from footage here, never saw movie itself).
Even it was military - assuming they had knowlege about spectrum of the threat it is still very sound way to deal with Xenomorph infestation. Definitely smarter than sending in the marines.
But from the film making perspective - you firtst give audience awaited climactic fight, then you nuke the site.
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01.16.2012 - 10:39 | ultramanmattia
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01.16.2012 - 12:59 | ladydiskette
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Love it! I hated this one more than the first as well, it seems like a hurried B-movie sequel with teen elements slapped in randomly. Even if this one was more probable and less overacted than the first.
Will you do Predators any time soon? That's a bit of a mixed bag, I found it to be a sound hommage to the first movie.
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01.16.2012 - 03:48 | Sebastian_Havelock
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01.16.2012 - 03:52 | ElderGodBrandonyou failed to mention one sorta cool thing about the ending, the weyland utani thign at the end of requiem, where they mention that it isnt meant for this world and what not
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I know most people feel this movie is worst than AVP, but I actually liked this movie more than the first.
The fact that it's Rated R was the starting reason.
The Xenomorphs and Predator were actually menacing in this movie as opposed to being cartoony like in the first movie.
The design (when you could see it) for the Predalien was awesome.
The Predator.....badass. This is how a Predator is suppose to be. Not paling around with an annoying human female who can't convey emotions with her face. He's there for one reason...killing and if the pesky humans get in the way he has no problem ripping them apart.
My only gripe with the movie was the lighting in the dark segments that made it hard as hell to see, and I felt kinda robbed in the final battle between the Predalien and Predator.
The monsters were enjoyable...it's the humans that bring down the movies. Why can't they just make an AVP movie with just Xenomorphs and Predators? Like a hunting party lands on a planet infested with Xenomorphs, something goes wrong, and now the Predators have to fight for their lives. Basically an Aliens movie but with Predators instead of humans. That would be awesome.
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05.21.2012 - 18:31 | BloodrealmSo then they make it a CG movie, instead of live-action. Or maybe 2D animation.
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01.16.2012 - 06:33 | thelaughingfool
The first AVP wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. It was no where near what we wanted it to be, but it could have been worse. I mean come on, it could have been Requiem. I refuse to acknowledge this film as even part of the AVP franchise. It makes no sense, it breaks all the rules (and not in a good way), and it's boring and bland.
The biggest plot hole I could find was if a ship, full of armed Predators and presumably under their total control wasn't enough to stop Chad, why did they send ONE wfwic to clean it up?
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01.16.2012 - 07:50 | Decker Shado
I'll try to keep this short, as I just reviewed this movie last week. (and therefore, considerably later than when E-Rod gave it his quite awesome review)
Having an R rating doesn't mean it's got a better grasp on horror than a PG-13 rating, it means it has a license to use more gore, swearing, and nudity. Suspense, atmosphere, and characters worth investing in are the heart of great horror, and an R rating does not mean any of those need be present, and indeed in the case of Requiem, I dare say not a one is.
Yes, the lack of an R rating hampered the first AVP's horror, but while bland and predictible the characters and setups were at least minimalistic horror. Requiem's characters are insultingly poor, and there is little to no setup or reason, and while it "breaks the rules" and kills the immortal icons from horror movie cliches, it's a waste. A kid dies. What do we know about him? He's a kid. He is on screen less than a minute before he dies. A pregnant woman dies. What do we know about her? She is pregnant, and about to give birth. Nothing else. She is on screen maybe 20 seconds before she dies.
There is no buildup, there is no attatchment. These are not characters, they are purely put in there for shock value, and that is just insulting. The only one who was a "character" was Jessie, the blonde girlfriend, who died suddenly and suprisingly... But as a character, I absolutely hated her guts and found her lines even more disgusting than the plot, and her death may be my second favorate part of the film, not because it breaks the mold but because I WANTED HER TO DIE SO BADLY.
So much for keeping it short...
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01.16.2012 - 07:58 | Ladya5:59 -> The Rock's theme song plays = I am happy.
I honestly think they just called it "AVP: Requiem" because they thought it sounded cool.
You know what? Fuck humans. Yes, I said it. Why can't they just make an AVP movie with only Aliens and Predators? No one cares about the human characters. I just go by the assumption that they are there to be killed anyway, save one, who I still couldn't give a toss about, and yet movies like this keeps insisting on making the main characters human.
(Transformers did the same thing and it pissed me off to no end. I want to see TRANSFORMERS, not Shia LeBoeuf & Friends' Comedy Hour.)
Honestly, Hollywood, the audience are not crying out for human leads. We will happily sit through a film that's purely Aliens and Predators, because that's all we came to see in the first place. Obviously, considering how underwritten and uninteresting the humans are in this movie, you don't care for them either, so why even bother?
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01.16.2012 - 08:23 | LegodzillaFan
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01.16.2012 - 09:59 | NoNameBrand
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01.16.2012 - 10:10 | MalidictusThis movie insulted my intelligence and hurt my brain at the same time. When I saw it, I hadn't seen the garbage that was the original, oh no. I went into it with memories of Monolith's amazing AvP2 game in my head, only to have Lex Luthor scream "WRONG!" in my face.
The characters are terrible, the Predator is shoehorned into the plot, the Predalien is... Fugly, to put it politely, and the movie is just gross for no real reason. And it's not even all that interesting of a movie to begin with. Maybe if I were a fan of old horror movies I might have that going for me, but personally, I find Aliens to be where monster alien combat is at.
The fact of the matter is I'm hugely disinclined to enjoy an Alien movie without the colonial marines, and a Predator movie isn't all that much fun without the Predator being... Well, a predator. In this movie, he's more of a heavy.
As far as I'm concerned, if I want a good Alien movie, I'll watch Aliens, and if I want a good Predator movie... Well, Predator 1 and 2 and even Predators are better. Hell, the AvP2 game is significantly better.
The AvP movies blow my balls because at their heart, neither the Alien nor the Predator franchise are ABOUT special effect monster battles. They're about the ways in which people interact with the aliens, the psychology behind it and the characters that drive the plot.
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01.16.2012 - 10:23 | PixelJustice
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01.16.2012 - 10:37 | ultramanmattia
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01.16.2012 - 11:11 | The_Awesometeer
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01.16.2012 - 12:03 | Poipoi
This movie sucked Not because of the pregnant women characters ( that was disturbing ) but because I hated most the characters in this. Its a horrible script. It just sucks in general. I regretted wtching this movie and I sat through Aliens 3 and Aliens Ressurection!
This makes Predator 2 look like a masterpiece!
Btw enjoyed the review BB!
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I disagreed with Film Brain and I disagree here, AVP:R was thousands of times better than the first one. It brought in elements of both franchises, and where as it wasn't the greatest movie ever concieved, it did well with what it had.
The first movie didn't feel like Aliens or Predator at all. Predators looked like steroid filled football players and the aliens weren't the clever /always evolving insects they were made out to be. The humans in this movie were uninteresting meat puppets waiting to die while making dumb/overly dramatic scenes. The two parts of this movie that I enjoyed were the flashback of previous predators failing their hunt and nuking the nest (which would have made a much more interesting story) and when the pred snaps the chestbursters neck (I chuckled)
AVP:R however has it all, its got a wannabe Ripley with her wannabe Newt, its got National Guard (Colonial Marines) getting overrun by the swarms of aliens, its got a single predator that has all the badass as the one from the first movie, and more importantly it brings new concepts into play such as the new gadgetry the pred had that wasnt shown before, or the pred-alien. It has constant throwbacks to the original franchises, and thats all I and other fans wanted. Its a movie that wanted to be AVP, unlike the first one. Does it out do the orginal franchises? Hell no, its not amazing, but its exactly what you would expect a AVP movie to be while taking place on earth in the year 2010.
Was the pregnant scene too much? Was having a child on his first hunt get face hugged and chest bursted in bad taste? Nope, it wasn't needed, but it wasn't horrible and in fact was quite a twist for the audience. People are always getting torn apart by the aliens, why is this pregnant chick or the kid any different? Imagine all the pregnant women, toddlers, infants that were killed on the colony in Aliens, its no different. In the end its a movie guys, and the graphic visuals in this don't come close to "A Serbian Film" or the second "Human Caterpillar".
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01.16.2012 - 12:08 | Cassave
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01.16.2012 - 12:10 | Lone Wolf
An Alien Vs Predictor Movie should be easy. A group of hunters and mercenaries are sent by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation to capture a Xenomorph. To do this they have to go to an Predator hunting ground which pisses off the Predators so they go down to kill the humans from then on it's a three way war between the humans Predators and Xenomorphs.
OR BETTER! Drop the Predators, ignore Alien 3 and Resurrection and have Neut be the main character. Instead of hunters and mercenaries, they're Marines. They're trying to capture a Xenomprph because there is a big war between humans and some other species and the government wants to capture a Xenomorph in order studies and tern into weapons to use against the other species.
As for the Predater make a prequel that takes place some time in the past. They have been hunting us for thousands of years, there can be plenty of stories of Predaters hunting cowboys, knights, samurai, Roman solders, Spartans, etc.
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01.16.2012 - 13:05 | XpixelatedX
The pregnant woman thing was something long needed. It really neuters the preds and aliens to know kids have invincibility shields against them (lol Skyrim!) It was nice to see these monsters killing pregnant women and unborn babies. Now my view of them has gone from 'just awful' to 'abominable' ...which a monster SHOULD BE!
If you wanted an actual story with characters, this movie wasn't for you. If you wanted to see what would happen if someone just dumped a predator and a butt load of aliens in a simple American town, you are going to have an absolute blast. It just so happens I wanted to see a town get massacred by monsters, so I was pleased, but I do admit the movie itself was just awful; it's a guilty pleasure by far.
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01.16.2012 - 13:10 | angel85
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Sorry, had to be Meta there. But for realz:
1. This movie is WAY better than the original. And I like the fact that it plays on genre expectations (love interest gets it)
2. I like the one-liners. I love "get to the chopper", and even better: "Why would the government lie to us?"
3. All you people complaining about the predalien's reproductive techniques: need I remind you that that sort of imagery is what Alien is FOUNDED on? Come on, it's all about perverting the idea of pregnancy! Weak sauce!
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01.16.2012 - 13:36 | Chino
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01.16.2012 - 14:23 | Hybrid2I like some of the scenes from that movie but the pregnant women killing,is why I cant watch it again.
It need a new movie.Set after the Aliens movies.
WITH SPACE MARINES!!
Hard to belive some fan movies are a lot better.
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01.16.2012 - 15:25 | Shinigami
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01.16.2012 - 15:36 | raith0818
This movie sucked but it was definitely better then the first. That's REALLY not saying much, however.
All anyone ever wanted was Aliens, Preds and space marines together in a futuristic setting. Put them on a space ship or another planet. Nobody wants to see them on modern day earth running around with bland mountain climbers or GQ model teens.
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01.16.2012 - 19:07 | ArthusI actually liked the predalien design, but I doo think the dreadlocks and yellow color are unnecessary. I prefered the new game's version which looked more like the traditionall alien.
And for those who are arguing that the predalien shouldn't have any predator traits, keep in mind that the dog spawned alien from alien 3 did have dog traits on it, and the human spawned one does have human traits. Though on all three designs, the traits are skeletal, which is why I think the dreadlocks were unnecessary.
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01.16.2012 - 19:49 | cannedfuryI thought the Predalien design was good, even if the dreadlocks were inexplicable and silly. It's just that it was in an incompetent clusterfuck with no way to leave a good impression. So its only memorable moment ended up being what it did to the pregnant women. Rape-themed body horror is what Aliens exist for, but it had no psychological build-up, clever execution, or anything redeemable at all. Just cheap, moronic, throwaway shock value a middle schooler would come up with in an attempt to sound edgy. Also Geiger's over-credited on the Xenomorph design. It's pretty much everybody else behind the movies who made it work, even adding stuff like the Queen.
The most distractingly retarded character in the movie, though, had to be the Predator for me. He's supposed to be especially badass, and we're doing our best to ignore all the stupid humans. But then he just keeps going, "HUMANS GOTTA GO AFTER THE HUMANS DIE HUMANS. Wait, where was I... right, I'm hunting Aliens at this pool where THERE'S A SWIMMING POOL I GOTTA KILL THE SWIMMING POOL AND THEN MORE HUMANS. ...What was I doing?" The whole reason they had to nuke the city was because that moron kept getting distracted from doing his job. And the movie's. Wolf is the worst Predator ever.