Marzgurl lives. Wonder if people are still giving you the "White Knight" treatment in Fable 2..........

I was actually wondering just a couple of hours ago, "Gee. What happened to MarzGurl?" I see you have been busy doing research on THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT MEDIUM EVER!!!! ....Sorry. I just LOVE animation (especially cartoons). I gladly look forward to Part 2.

clearly modern animators dont think fighting nazis is tabu because even before simpsons, family guy, or even the genius that is south park touched the subject. the justice league had a tv movie where they go back in time to WWII to stop a guy who also went back in time from helping hitler and the wermacht (nazi army) to win the war by using advance technology to win in europe and then fly over the ocean to bomb america. so listen up a censorship fuckers. dont hand us that fighting nazis in cartoons is wrong shit and show the original wartime cartoons sometime.

oh, and great review welcome back.

Awesome vid there Marz. Can't wait to see round 2! ^-^

Pretty good video! Very insightful!

actually, they put out several DVD sets of wartime cartoons.

You would definitely enjoy the book "Animation Art: From Pencil to Pixel, the World of Cartoon, Anime, and CGI" by Jerry Beck

it was my textbook for my History of Animation class

good video good rant and bring so much anger because i love cartoons but they just keep treating like crap FUCK but still awesome cant wait for part 2

It was really a good video :O
Pretty damn interesting. Also, I hope in the next one, as you mentioned animations with adults in mind, I REALLY hope you meant Freakazoid :B

Not only were new cartoons in the 60's limited in Animation but classics were being watered down as well. This was basically where Tom and Jerry started to be watered down and the man responsible for it was none other then Chuck Jones.

i wonder if she is even going touch about dubbing anime(so many good anime get dub so horribly)dub meaning change japanese (or other languages) into English

great to see you again, finally!

can't wait for next week, enjoyed watching this

Welcome back MarzGurl! (aww, the blue hair's gone. :()

Two months ago, I was at an art gallery exhibit showcasing cartoons, comics, graphic novels, anime, manga and visual art. Not only did this feel like a "hell yeah" moment to me because I draw with a heavy anime influence but it felt like a step closer into getting animated mediums as an accepted art form. However, I noticed that there were plenty of families that brought their kids along to the exhibit and I couldn't help but chuckle to myself over the parents telling their kids "not to read some of those dirty comics!"

Did they really think that just because it was an animation based exhibit that it would be entirely kid friendly?! :P It was still a reminder that we still have a bit of a way to go.

I'd like to think of your series as a step in the right direction in helping clear up this common misconception. Great job and I can't wait to see Part 2. :)

Gurl you've done your homework and I'm damn proud. Good job.

The 1960's was where I laughed. Animated shows like Scooby Doo, and other Hanna Barbara shows became dull, and basic.

Awesome info clip, MG! :)

I'll be waiting for part two, when I can get into one of my pet peeves. Japanese Animation intended for an adult audience, turned american and toned down for a children's audience and then people complaining that the animation isn't suited for little children.... Well... [b]DUH!!![/b] >:(

While the topic is interesting, there are a few places that are misrepresented in the video.

The 1920s till about the 1950s WAS the golden age of animation, but many of the animators working for major studios were the people taught by the original pioneers of the medium itself. One of the main reasons why animation quality went down was because the current animators chose a different direction in their style. Yes, there were many studios that chose to be cheaper in production to save money, but most animation was different because realism was 'old hat' and not considered a worth while endeavor. It’s very similar to the abstract expressionist movement in the 60s (which counteracted traditional methods in art) which was happening at the same time as post-golden age animation.

Also, The Disney WW2 cartoons were actually meant as pro-American propaganda. In the conclusion to the Donald Duck cartoon you showed (“Der Fuher’s Face”), Donald wakes up (him being a Nazi was all a dream) wearing American flag pajamas and is so happy that he is truly an American. There WERE Disney cartoons made as Nazi propaganda right after WWI, but those are buried deep in a vault along with the Ark of the Covenant.

In addition, it also seems a little backwards if you’re doing a history of animation video to completely gloss over all of Walt Disney’s films (the ones Walt was personally involved in, that is) which were paramount in the development of animation as an art form (Snow White was the first full-length animated feature to be produced after all). There are methods he invented (such as using a camera to move through multiple background layers to create depth) that were mimicked by many other studios later on.

And what’s wrong with animation being educational? Books, movies, and video games are made for adults, kids and all those in between. What’s wrong with animation having multiple audiences?

When animation first began there had been a number of art forms that made it pousible to expres yourself.
Why those cartoon comited suicide it because the really can't die some children get emotionaly attached to a favorite cartoon character and decides to mimic him unfortulately in those cartoon for example you get hit and see green stars in the real world it not that you cn be killed, hurt and induce a coma. By making the cartoon's suniced the kid learns the meaning of death and understand their own life. Tha's my point of view I do think that's an ankward message for the kid to learn but nowadays the some parent's have a busy life and can't be always home for the child.

Hi there I totally agree with you, I am actually studying animation at Maidstone university for the creative arts. (I actually finished my first project for the second year check it out)
http://uk.youtube.com/ watch?v=6YVUaGd3e4Q
I see animation as an art form yes it can be used as a story telling but first and foremost it is art. Very good and oinformative video for peeps ;)

Very Good Video, MarzGurl

The Felix suicide and the Laugh Smoke part maked me laugh!

Actually my Dad's a huge fan of SchoolHouse Rock because of his own childhood watching them. Actually watching some of those old shorts, while the animation itself wasn't that great, the educational songs are a thousand times better than most of the crap that's either put out by professional singers or cheap animated musicals.

@goldenashtree

You'll have to understand that this was VERY much a gloss over. This was meant to be less of a real HISTORICAL review that could be used as a college documentation as much as it was just supposed to prove that cartoons weren't always a childrens' entertainment medium.

Oh, believe me, I am WELL aware that the Disney war time cartoons were Propaganda. That's why I made the comment that "Donald Duck dreamed he was a Nazi". I mean, surely most people can tell that I'm telling things too fast to have delved too deep into everything. The point was that the subject matter was brought up, and Disney is not very well inclined to re-release it, whether it came out on some obscure DVD release or not. I also included a very short clip from a Donald Duck clip, Spirit of '43, in which the American public is being persuaded into paying taxes to fuel war efforts - a short that isn't even in the SLIGHTEST bit funny.

Yeah, I glossed over Disney's full-length animated features, too. But don't you think this is kind of self-explanatory for what I was trying to tell? Everyone knows that Disney had the best human animation at the time, and we all know where it ended up. Not much needs to be told, unless you've completely lived under a rock, and in a ten-minute time span there's TOO much else to tell. As it is, I've had to break this segment up into two pieces, which was not something I originally wanted to do.

Also, nothing's wrong with it being educational. But I certainly thing that School House Rock set the standard, telling America that animation was solidified as a medium for kids. Say what you like about it, I even watched it when I was a kid, too. But no matter, it paved the roads for Saturday morning kids animation.

Plus, MarzGurl review videos are here to make a character that's a little different than me. :P

This is a very informative video, never known about Disney's anti-nazi propaganda

Yeah... suecide is funny...
Many early russian cartoons folowed the american steps with the being funny, only less violent, also picking on Hitler, natzis, japs... Later on they made cartoons mostly for family watch and some cold-war era animetions as well. From time to time a more serious cartoon would pop up but there weren't many of those. Mostly animetion was amed to teach children the "right way" of living and social acting.

I was wondering when we would see a new video from you and I was anything but disappointed. Good job, and I'm really anxious to see the conclusion.

MarzGurl is back! I thought ThatGuy had but much tighter speed like video each week.

Welcome back Marzgurl! Glad to see you're at it again with this genuine masterpiece. Can't wait to see part 2!

Nice stuff here.

I hope you'll be going into Japanimation too: it is through Japnimation that the animation industry might see a change. In fact as the Japanimation generation grows into adults who will be taking the reigns of society eventually, I'm thinking we will see a change through them. (us)

YAY!
You're back!!!!
And with just the kind of stuff I'm into up to neck.
It was a great beginning, I hope the follow up will be awesome as well, but til that, PLEASE consider two things:

1)fixing the sound quality. It seems you're using the cam's microphone instead of a microport or something, like a boom mic, but still, that would be okay, because most sound softwares has their way to cut the noise nowadays.

2)If you have time, please talk about animation overseas, like europe, or asia. Both places, animation still considered a more mature medium.8)

Glad to see a video from you Marz, and i truly thank you for sending credit to the dinosaur animated short. I have that beauty on a VHS dinosaur tape, the music for it is just awesome.
As for those WWI and WWII cartoons, I was fortunate enough to find a VHS of a collection of those in a bargin bin at a local Blockbuster. Back when they were selling all thier VHS tapes. In the tape, the host at least had the decentcy to say that these cartoons were no longer airing because of "political insensitivity"
Truly a shame we're losing a lot of history all in the name of trying not to offend someone.
Speaking of history, i recall one of my teachers having this collection of World War pollitical cartoons, all done by Dr. Suess himself.