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written by NegaJoe , November 21, 2008

Marzgurl lives. Wonder if people are still giving you the "White Knight" treatment in Fable 2..........

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written by Daffy , November 21, 2008

I was actually wondering just a couple of hours ago, "Gee. What happened to MarzGurl?" I see you have been busy doing research on THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT MEDIUM EVER!!!! ....Sorry. I just LOVE animation (especially cartoons). I gladly look forward to Part 2.

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written by Maverick21 , November 21, 2008

clearly modern animators dont think fighting nazis is tabu because even before simpsons, family guy, or even the genius that is south park touched the subject. the justice league had a tv movie where they go back in time to WWII to stop a guy who also went back in time from helping hitler and the wermacht (nazi army) to win the war by using advance technology to win in europe and then fly over the ocean to bomb america. so listen up a censorship fuckers. dont hand us that fighting nazis in cartoons is wrong shit and show the original wartime cartoons sometime.

oh, and great review welcome back.

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written by Steveman , November 21, 2008

Awesome vid there Marz. Can't wait to see round 2! ^-^

Nice!
written by ddwkc , November 21, 2008

Pretty good video! Very insightful!

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written by DrGonzo , November 21, 2008

actually, they put out several DVD sets of wartime cartoons.

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written by Ant200tl , November 21, 2008

You would definitely enjoy the book "Animation Art: From Pencil to Pixel, the World of Cartoon, Anime, and CGI" by Jerry Beck

it was my textbook for my History of Animation class

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written by avidfan141 , November 21, 2008

good video good rant and bring so much anger because i love cartoons but they just keep treating like crap FUCK but still awesome cant wait for part 2

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written by DarkHarpuia , November 22, 2008

It was really a good video :O
Pretty damn interesting. Also, I hope in the next one, as you mentioned animations with adults in mind, I REALLY hope you meant Freakazoid :B

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written by NinjaMaster551 , November 22, 2008

Not only were new cartoons in the 60's limited in Animation but classics were being watered down as well. This was basically where Tom and Jerry started to be watered down and the man responsible for it was none other then Chuck Jones.

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written by BabyImplosion , November 22, 2008

great to see you again, finally!

can't wait for next week, enjoyed watching this

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written by TheDramaticMonarch , November 22, 2008

Welcome back MarzGurl! (aww, the blue hair's gone. )

Two months ago, I was at an art gallery exhibit showcasing cartoons, comics, graphic novels, anime, manga and visual art. Not only did this feel like a "hell yeah" moment to me because I draw with a heavy anime influence but it felt like a step closer into getting animated mediums as an accepted art form. However, I noticed that there were plenty of families that brought their kids along to the exhibit and I couldn't help but chuckle to myself over the parents telling their kids "not to read some of those dirty comics!"

Did they really think that just because it was an animation based exhibit that it would be entirely kid friendly?! It was still a reminder that we still have a bit of a way to go.

I'd like to think of your series as a step in the right direction in helping clear up this common misconception. Great job and I can't wait to see Part 2.

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written by Kuceman , November 22, 2008

Gurl you've done your homework and I'm damn proud. Good job.

I couldn't agree more
written by GoldenFox , November 22, 2008

The 1960's was where I laughed. Animated shows like Scooby Doo, and other Hanna Barbara shows became dull, and basic.

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written by Raymond T ThatDutchGuyWithTheTransformers , November 22, 2008

Awesome info clip, MG!

I'll be waiting for part two, when I can get into one of my pet peeves. Japanese Animation intended for an adult audience, turned american and toned down for a children's audience and then people complaining that the animation isn't suited for little children.... Well... DUH!!!

Interesting, but...
written by goldenashtree , November 22, 2008

While the topic is interesting, there are a few places that are misrepresented in the video.

The 1920s till about the 1950s WAS the golden age of animation, but many of the animators working for major studios were the people taught by the original pioneers of the medium itself. One of the main reasons why animation quality went down was because the current animators chose a different direction in their style. Yes, there were many studios that chose to be cheaper in production to save money, but most animation was different because realism was 'old hat' and not considered a worth while endeavor. It’s very similar to the abstract expressionist movement in the 60s (which counteracted traditional methods in art) which was happening at the same time as post-golden age animation.

Also, The Disney WW2 cartoons were actually meant as pro-American propaganda. In the conclusion to the Donald Duck cartoon you showed (“Der Fuher’s Face”), Donald wakes up (him being a Nazi was all a dream) wearing American flag pajamas and is so happy that he is truly an American. There WERE Disney cartoons made as Nazi propaganda right after WWI, but those are buried deep in a vault along with the Ark of the Covenant.

In addition, it also seems a little backwards if you’re doing a history of animation video to completely gloss over all of Walt Disney’s films (the ones Walt was personally involved in, that is) which were paramount in the development of animation as an art form (Snow White was the first full-length animated feature to be produced after all). There are methods he invented (such as using a camera to move through multiple background layers to create depth) that were mimicked by many other studios later on.

And what’s wrong with animation being educational? Books, movies, and video games are made for adults, kids and all those in between. What’s wrong with animation having multiple audiences?

Cartoons Comiting Suicide
written by SoulReaver , November 22, 2008

When animation first began there had been a number of art forms that made it pousible to expres yourself.
Why those cartoon comited suicide it because the really can't die some children get emotionaly attached to a favorite cartoon character and decides to mimic him unfortulately in those cartoon for example you get hit and see green stars in the real world it not that you cn be killed, hurt and induce a coma. By making the cartoon's suniced the kid learns the meaning of death and understand their own life. Tha's my point of view I do think that's an ankward message for the kid to learn but nowadays the some parent's have a busy life and can't be always home for the child.

YES
written by JAKEMAN , November 22, 2008

Hi there I totally agree with you, I am actually studying animation at Maidstone university for the creative arts. (I actually finished my first project for the second year check it out)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6YVUaGd3e4Q
I see animation as an art form yes it can be used as a story telling but first and foremost it is art. Very good and oinformative video for peeps

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written by GaeSan , November 22, 2008

Very Good Video, MarzGurl

The Felix suicide and the Laugh Smoke part maked me laugh!

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written by Linkara , November 22, 2008

Actually my Dad's a huge fan of SchoolHouse Rock because of his own childhood watching them. Actually watching some of those old shorts, while the animation itself wasn't that great, the educational songs are a thousand times better than most of the crap that's either put out by professional singers or cheap animated musicals.

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written by MarzGurl , November 22, 2008

@goldenashtree

You'll have to understand that this was VERY much a gloss over. This was meant to be less of a real HISTORICAL review that could be used as a college documentation as much as it was just supposed to prove that cartoons weren't always a childrens' entertainment medium.

Oh, believe me, I am WELL aware that the Disney war time cartoons were Propaganda. That's why I made the comment that "Donald Duck dreamed he was a Nazi". I mean, surely most people can tell that I'm telling things too fast to have delved too deep into everything. The point was that the subject matter was brought up, and Disney is not very well inclined to re-release it, whether it came out on some obscure DVD release or not. I also included a very short clip from a Donald Duck clip, Spirit of '43, in which the American public is being persuaded into paying taxes to fuel war efforts - a short that isn't even in the SLIGHTEST bit funny.

Yeah, I glossed over Disney's full-length animated features, too. But don't you think this is kind of self-explanatory for what I was trying to tell? Everyone knows that Disney had the best human animation at the time, and we all know where it ended up. Not much needs to be told, unless you've completely lived under a rock, and in a ten-minute time span there's TOO much else to tell. As it is, I've had to break this segment up into two pieces, which was not something I originally wanted to do.

Also, nothing's wrong with it being educational. But I certainly thing that School House Rock set the standard, telling America that animation was solidified as a medium for kids. Say what you like about it, I even watched it when I was a kid, too. But no matter, it paved the roads for Saturday morning kids animation.

Plus, MarzGurl review videos are here to make a character that's a little different than me.

forgot
written by GaeSan , November 22, 2008

This is a very informative video, never known about Disney's anti-nazi propaganda

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written by Keydan , November 22, 2008

Yeah... suecide is funny...
Many early russian cartoons folowed the american steps with the being funny, only less violent, also picking on Hitler, natzis, japs... Later on they made cartoons mostly for family watch and some cold-war era animetions as well. From time to time a more serious cartoon would pop up but there weren't many of those. Mostly animetion was amed to teach children the "right way" of living and social acting.

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written by dakostro , November 22, 2008

I was wondering when we would see a new video from you and I was anything but disappointed. Good job, and I'm really anxious to see the conclusion.

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written by Shinigami , November 22, 2008

MarzGurl is back! I thought ThatGuy had but much tighter speed like video each week.

Awesome Vid!
written by ThatTeenWithTheIssues , November 22, 2008

Welcome back Marzgurl! Glad to see you're at it again with this genuine masterpiece. Can't wait to see part 2!

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written by Draxo , November 22, 2008

Nice stuff here.

I hope you'll be going into Japanimation too: it is through Japnimation that the animation industry might see a change. In fact as the Japanimation generation grows into adults who will be taking the reigns of society eventually, I'm thinking we will see a change through them. (us)

Words of advice:
written by Zoltan , November 22, 2008

YAY!
You're back!!!!
And with just the kind of stuff I'm into up to neck.
It was a great beginning, I hope the follow up will be awesome as well, but til that, PLEASE consider two things:

1)fixing the sound quality. It seems you're using the cam's microphone instead of a microport or something, like a boom mic, but still, that would be okay, because most sound softwares has their way to cut the noise nowadays.

2)If you have time, please talk about animation overseas, like europe, or asia. Both places, animation still considered a more mature medium.

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written by Phalyn , November 22, 2008

Glad to see a video from you Marz, and i truly thank you for sending credit to the dinosaur animated short. I have that beauty on a VHS dinosaur tape, the music for it is just awesome.
As for those WWI and WWII cartoons, I was fortunate enough to find a VHS of a collection of those in a bargin bin at a local Blockbuster. Back when they were selling all thier VHS tapes. In the tape, the host at least had the decentcy to say that these cartoons were no longer airing because of "political insensitivity"
Truly a shame we're losing a lot of history all in the name of trying not to offend someone.
Speaking of history, i recall one of my teachers having this collection of World War pollitical cartoons, all done by Dr. Suess himself.

wow
written by benzaie , November 22, 2008

you really dug up some gems in here.... very interesting... this one feels actually more of a cultural video, like this drew struzan tribute TGWTG did...and it's all good... thanks for bringing the brain in here

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written by ThatFellowInTheCoat , November 22, 2008

Excellent video and I definitely agree! It annoys me when people say "Oh, it's animated therefore it's just for children", so I definitely related to a lot of the things you were saying. Very much looking forward to Part 2.

On a side note: Disney actually did officially release "Der Fuehrer's Face" on a Donald Duck DVD collection recently, so you're actually able to watch it remastered and un-cut on that DVD set.

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written by batpawn , November 22, 2008

tat was actually very interesting and i'm pretty excited for part 2. very well done, even though i already knew most of the stuff. ^^

i'm pretty interested which "animation for adults" you will feature in part 2. fritz the cat, or more like todd mcfarlanes spawn? let's see.

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written by Jenx , November 22, 2008

You do make a lot of good points, but I think it would have been good to point out that this will be concerning only mainstream and commercial animation. After all independent animated movies done by a small team or even just 1 person very very very rarely are in any way targeting kids.

Also, let me join in on the people being annoyed by other saying "oh, animation is for kids!". Personally, this is especially annoying to me, since I study animation and know this is anything BUT kid stuff.

Great vid!
written by SpikesGirl1 , November 22, 2008

And it's good to have you back, Marzgurl! Anyway, this vid was very informative. There were a lot of things I already knew, but surprisingly, some things I didn't know. Can't wait for part 2!

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written by Lime , November 22, 2008

I loved Schoolhouse Rock, and so did a lot of adults (the songs had excellent appeal, and the animation/art style had a sort of distinct charm to it), but I'd say you're very right; it helped establish the notion that animation was for kids only, which is a shame.

This video was excellent; I'd work on the delivery if I were you, but it's well-written and informative. Can't wait to see the next part, and glad to see you back.

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written by White Light , November 22, 2008

RESPECT
u are a true animation fen
i give u "BEST" ^^

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written by chramb , November 22, 2008

Donald in der Waffenfabrik hat mich schon zum lachen gebracht. Keine Ahnung warum diese Filme "verschwunden" sind.
Also ich persöhnlich als Deuscher fühle mich da nicht sonderlich verletzt wenn Hitler einen auf die Rübe bekommt.

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written by Cferra , November 22, 2008

Good stuff! I can't wait for part 2 when you cover the 80s and 90s. That should be cool. Animation has changed a lot. And seriously, what was up with those old toons committing suicide? Wasn't the Depression depressing enough?

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written by godzilla1489 , November 22, 2008

The reason why it is still considered a childrens medium is because there is no blood or gore, just humor.
and the Red hot Riding hood short still airs on Boomerang. a lot of these shorts still do.

What about the censored 11?
written by bluenowait , November 22, 2008

I think it was important for you to cover a series of cartoons that have been a lot more restricted than WWII cartoons, I'm talking about the Looney Tunes censored eleven. A selection of 11 WB cartoon shorts banned in the '60s from distribution on any medium, because of racial content. A tradition that has been carried on by United Artists, Turner, and Time Warner. I know it would be tough to find clips for the video, but some of them are public domain and bootlegged on YouTube. Here's a wiki if you want to learn more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censored_Eleven

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written by ThatGuyWithTheTurret , November 22, 2008

Yes! The Nazi Donald Duck special!
As a matter of fact, I have seen this short a few years ago...It's great.

You know you make good videos when all you have t do is sit and talk in front of a few clips of various...
...Wait, isn't that Every video on this site?!
Well, regardless, keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to more

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written by goldenashtree , November 22, 2008

“This was meant to be less of a real HISTORICAL review…”

If that’s the case, then I guess I’m confused as to why it was titled “A History of Animation.” I can definitely understand the frustration of people assuming that anything animated is automatically for children. I’ve run into that numerous times myself.

“But don't you think this is kind of self-explanatory for what I was trying to tell? Everyone knows that Disney had the best human animation at the time, and we all know where it ended up.”
Yes, many of us know where Disney is now, but not many know where they’ve been. And back then, Walt was out to make entertainment for both adults and children to enjoy. Wouldn’t that further prove the point you’re trying to make?

Like you kind of touched on in your video, the small screen (aka television) is when much of animation was starting to steer towards a younger audience. After studios got the hang of animation, it was used a lot of the time on the big screen as buffers between newsreels which were watched mainly by adults. Children were able to access the television so it’s only natural that companies would begin to produce material suited for them. The television rating system hadn’t been invented yet so they couldn’t exactly put up whatever they wanted.

Animation is an art form, but as with any medium, there will be people to abuse it for profit. Writing is also an art form; one that’s been around for thousands of years, granted. But how many trashy novels do you see lying around book stores that make tons of money?

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written by MarzGurl , November 22, 2008

Again, if I covered everything there was to cover, this video would be like an hour long. I carefully chose what to keep and what to toss. As it is, I covered a Disney propaganda video as well as Snow White, which are both two sides of the Disney spectrum, I'd say.

Same thing with people who are bringing up banned videos. There's no way I can cover all of them. There were at least three "banned" cartoons that I had included, and there's no way I could cover everything. Any piece of this could be considered important.

Oh, and I'd say this title on this page is actually a bit of a misrepresentation. I actually didn't choose the title of "History of Animation". That was Admin's choosing. Dunno why he didn't take the title I gave it in the movie. :/

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written by electricliux , November 22, 2008

Are you going to mention the modern animation avatar the last aibender?

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written by goldman , November 22, 2008

pretty interesting!
and it made me realize that where i live(Argentina)cartoon censorship was nonexistant!(i say was because i'm talking about back in the 90', as of now i've pretty much ran away from cartoons, as newer cartoons aren't really good, and the translations are even worse than back then!)
what i mean is that i've seen several times the ending where the wolf shots himself, for example.
and i also have vague memories of the nazi daffy duck thing.
yet there never were any disney animations over here, just MGM and WB.

anyway, can't wait to see the next part, i love history, no matter is it's social, economical or animational =P

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written by A Knothole Resident , November 22, 2008

woah, i forgot about Marzgurl. Weclome back! This was certainly edutaining and I look forward to when you talk about the 80s and 90s.

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written by A Knothole Resident , November 22, 2008

By the way, I remember that ABC bumper thats shown at the end. I still have those recorded from a couple VHS tapes from when I used to record Sonic the Hedgehog. Plus I think that bumper sparked its own show entitled Bump in the Night. How ironic huh?

Very nice
written by CoolIT , November 22, 2008

Fantastic job on your review. I am really looking forward to the next part.
Very interesting and great job...

Lol... I have to find those WW2 Cartoons... man that was a funny Daffy Duck clip !!!

well done
written by thegreatestguy , November 22, 2008

as a the world's biggest admirer of animation, I say Bravo!

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written by Ashariel , November 22, 2008

Very good ! Hope we'll see more of your videos in the future !

Great info, and fun watch. Look forward to part 2
written by saber16 , November 22, 2008

Coming from an art junkie (studying media arts and animation in school), this is real interesting stuff.

Oh, and the banned Donald Duck shorts where great, both the Nazi and Vietnam ones.
Are they stereotypical and perhaps racist? Well, of course! And that was the point, they were made in those time periods as a way to soften the tension of the war. Now-a-days, people want to pretend shorts like that never existed because "They are to offensive".

Son of a bitch
written by soulcalibergirl , November 22, 2008

I like the one Looney Tunes short when Porky Pig accidentally whacks his finger with a hammer and he stammers out "Oh son of a-oh son of a--oh son of a g-gun!" He then turns to the camera, laughs, and says, "I'll bet you thought I was going to say son of a bitch, didn't you?" I was drinking a glass of Sprite the first time I watched it, and did a spit-take all over my computer screen.
Anyway, great job with the video! It was informative as well as funny. Can't wait for Part 2!

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written by orwellianson , November 22, 2008

Delightful entry MarzGurl, you did a marvelous job!

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written by Wartex , November 22, 2008

A lot of effort must have been put into this. Great job!

written by goldenashtree , November 22, 2008

The admin changed the title? Okay, that makes a little more sense.
And I wasn't saying that you should have included more on Disney films or anything else. There were just many aspects in the past of animation that were misrepresented and others that could have been used to support the arguments more clearly.

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written by JJXB , November 22, 2008

hmmm.... i can admit that the old cartoon clips made me laugh. but the true classics always have. i hate the soccer mom's attitudes since guess what? as a result of their bitching, look at what we get now on cartoon network: SHIT. best parts of CN were the adult swim cartoons (sealab 2021 for example) because those were funny as anything.

Good topic
written by Nephilim , November 22, 2008

Hi there,

Really like the topic you address. I'm also a fan of animation and more often than not people think it's silly that I like 'childrens movies'. Most of those people are aware that there are 'cartoons' out there that are meant for older viewers but then they tend to link those to violence and/or sex because they vaguely recall the early 90's when Anime had a brief craze and stuff like Legend Of The Overfiend was all the rage(well atleast it was here in Holland).

Personally I always try to get them to watch stuff like Grave Of The Fireflies or something like Persepolis to make them understand that there's more to animation what they've learned to believe. As you've said it's just another way of telling a story.

Luckily I think the more serious movie lovers are opening up to animation because of said Persepolis and also with the recently released Waltz With Bashir that both have gotten Oscar nominations.

I'm looking forward to the next installment.

Other than this a slight bit of feedback regarding the video itself. At times it looked as if you were looking to the side of the camera(perhaps reading a few keywords?). That and try to relax a little more.
Aside from those little things I really liked the video. You have interesting stuff to say and you show good promise
Keep up the good work!

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written by ABwingz , November 22, 2008

Miss Marz Gurl, you have truly put out a video that I can relate to. It is my DREAM to create cartoons and it'sstuff like this that I love to know about. Thank you for educating me so well! I can't wait until the next part!

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written by blacktrojan3921 , November 22, 2008

Oh how the mighty have fallen, a shame though that animation is now considered childish. Thank god Ralph Bakshi came into the animation business to balance out the mediums (kids and adults) with really adult animation films =P

Soccor moms lack common sense
written by B gal , November 22, 2008

If these over protected moms are worried about their kids, they should make patitions of getting rid of weaponds and drugs, THAT'LL make it much easier than blaming some bloody cartoon producer on it. Your precious kids would be exposed to that stuff in entertainmet eventually.

Good review, can't wait for part 2

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written by Movie-Brat , November 22, 2008

Great to see this MarzGurl, awesome vid and it's very, very fascinating. And it's really educating to know that there had been cartoons aimed at adults. I also hate it when Animation is considered a kid's thing as well, that always bothers me.

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written by Vash3001 , November 22, 2008

Great job! A bit of constructive criticism though...Its very obvious you are reading a cue card. Try to work on not moving your eyes as much and look more at the camera.

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written by Maverick21 , November 22, 2008

i could care less if shes reading cue cards' but it bugged me that it looked like she'd just gotten out of bed. marz, your good looking, show it in your videos more.

Lovely
written by inkovic , November 22, 2008

Great video, I wish people showed a greater appreciation for the art that is animation.

I remember reading that Animation was considered a lesser media form in my year 12 Media book and was infuriated with that inaccuracy.

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written by RocMegamanX , November 22, 2008

This was pretty well-put, MarzGurl. Hope to see you next week with Part 2

She lives!
written by Ignacia , November 22, 2008

Nice one, Kaylyn! I was hoping to see a video from you soon! I look forward to Part 2 with great anticipation!

Awesome topic!
written by Spike_J_Wolfwood , November 22, 2008

I think it's pretty cool that you're going through the trouble to break down the history of one of my all time favorite mediums. I was a little sad to see the omission of two clips I thought for sure would have been in this video. The first being Bugs Bunny's infamous WWII short "Nip The Nips" where he lets loose with all kinds of racist slang terms for the Japanese. The other being a commercial bumper for the Flintstones where Barney and Fred relax and talk about the wonders of Winston cigarettes, again reinforcing that the intended audience was (hopefully) adults. I can't wait to see the next video since Saturday morning cartoons dominated my pop culture intake as a child. Those ABC promos you played at the end sure took me back.

Damn right!
written by Emberblade , November 22, 2008

I'm an avid animation connoisseur myself.
Indeed you have to look for good non-children oriented stories in that medium these days.
I'm also concerned with the excessive use of 3D animation.
Anyways, well done, I’ll be waiting for part two.
I wonder if you'll tap into anime...

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written by Andrewk , November 23, 2008

Yay! Gertie the Dinosaur by Winsor McCay at 2:04. I love Gertie!

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written by DrDoom007 , November 23, 2008

Awesome video, you made a lot of valid points, also you made me think of this: "Will mankind ever stop looking for stuff to complain about and just enjoy!?".

(Got to admit, that segment of Donald Duck hailing hittler made me laugh a bit)

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written by SailorCardKnight , November 23, 2008

"i'm offened that everyone is offened!" LOL! I'm gonna use that quote from now on!
Overal its a good vid, but I do have a few nitpicks. I really don't think Walt Disney was aiming Snow White for a young audience originally. I think we just wanted to make a movie that the whole family could sit down and enjoy it. I think its Hollywood and the public that misinterpreted it. Hollywood saw a bigger profit aiming animated films at children than adults. Then the public as well because as years passed, as Hollywood changed their views on animation (passing it off as kids stuff) so did the public. I'm also shocked you didn't include Rocky and Bullwinkle, or any of the cartoons that where done by the same animation studio. Classic Saturday morning stuff right there....(or perhaps you did and I just wasn't paying attention.)

Looking forward to part 2, and don't forget the VERY important detail of the Columbine Shooting years back. After Columbine happened, there was a sudden extreme censorship in ALL new cartoons that where made. After that almost all voilence was removed from new cartoons, and all cartoons had to be educational in some way. Whether it would flat out tell you something, or just have a moral of the story-type thing. Also, older cartoons that contained alot of violence came looked down upon and where shown less and less on TV afterwards.
I remember this well because it was during the time where I would watch as many cartoons as I could that where shown on TV. I remember after that there was a sudden downgrade in the quality of the cartoons released (writing-wise) and there just wheren't as interesting any more to watch. So I started to somewhat avoid the newer ones and just watched the older ones I liked. (Also, sometime after that was when my Sailor Moon obession offcially began, and started to not watch cartoons as much).
Also in part 2, don't forget to mention the anime invation and how companies began to try and copy the anime style, and still do today.

Actually,
written by baba44713 , November 23, 2008

while those WW2 cartoons were banned in USA, they were still exported in European countries. I remember the Donald Duck heil Hitler-ing and Duffy hitting Hitler with a hammer. I also remember Popeye fighting a bunch of really badly stereotyped Japanese soldiers. Of course, this was all in the 80's, after that the globalization and political correctness kicked in and those cartoon disappeared.

As for the video - good job, but I must make some criticism. You are somehow trying to channel NC, and it doesn't really suit you - it just looks forced and overacted. A relaxed, (spoony-like ) approach would suit you much better. Also, the lightning and sound aren't that good - at least improvise with a lighted sheet of paper and get a better mike or something because as of now all the colors look drab and the sound really picks a lot of high frequencies.

Other then that, nice work, good research and hope to see more.

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written by CultconXIX , November 23, 2008

This was rather educating and I liked it

But what was that 8-bit farting noise I kept hearing every on minute???

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written by foxx278 , November 23, 2008

Finally! Someone speaking my language!!!

Fun Stuff, good work.
written by AmazingTele , November 23, 2008

Awesome work, very informative! I remember seeing that old felix that cat cartoon awhile ago where he killed himself I was very suprised. Anybody interested in old animation style should check out Osamu Tezuka's short (around 20 minutes or so) Legend of the Forest, its a fantasia style animation that seamlessly progresses through the various styles of animation through the years, plus it advocates environmentalism!

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written by Rhomega , November 23, 2008

I actually did see the Daffy Duck cartoon where he bashes Hitler with a mallet. It was part of a compilation of cartoons made during the 40s called "Wartime Cartoons" featuring Bugs and Daffy cartoons about the war, and ones that weren't about the war to take people's minds off it.

Still, I had no clue cartoons in the 20s were so...adult. I mean, I saw the Felix cartoon where he tries walking home drunk and starts having horrible hallucinations, but...wow.

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written by Poki3 , November 23, 2008

I too am angered by the stereotype of "Kids Cartoons", but there's something that angers me more for some time, and that's the huge shift to Computer Generated animation. It was nice when Toy Story came out, and it can still be nice if done right (like Wall-E) but come on! Why does every new Disney movie have to be CG just for the heck of it? TV shows are even worse! I'm not against using CG compleatly, but at least make it look like a cartoon!

Yeah...
written by S_Pac_3:16 , November 24, 2008

It is a shame that just about anything animated is considered kids stuff. Looking forward to part 2.

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written by Minic , November 24, 2008

I'd really like it if you could touch on CGI animation in the future, with movies like Tron and Toy Story.

Doubleing on CGI
written by Wendell , November 24, 2008

Yeah, but not just movies, allot of shows like Accion man (AWFUL)Rebbot (Good, but it starts kinda slow, but as it goes allong so dose its animation and it becomes realy well animated) And Shadow Raiders (this one was really good, it is just that the ending kinda sucked).

And if you want to push people away from this mentality of (FOR KIDS) than, show them japanese animation. That will fux them up realy hard. Akira, delicious ghost in the shell, and the amazing elf-enlight. Ow yeah, that last one will realy fux them up!

Animation is an art that needs to make money.
written by tcstorm , November 24, 2008

I'm not totally convinced on the animation is now a child's audience argument. All mediums start with the audience that can pay for it. With multimedia it was the adults in the '20's. If you look at art from the Renaissance the subject matter revolved around Christ. (which I think is cool ). Early radio went through the same thing. Saturday morning was traditionally a losing time slot for anybody. Animation for a child's audience fit the bill greatly! The Beatles cartoons lead the way for a long time. Finally Scooby-Doo came on board etc. Maybe a perception is created now for animation is for kids because many of those early adopters of Saturday morning cartoons are now 40-50-60 years old and that is a perspective they still have.

In reflection, I believe most animation is adult if not horrific in many adult themes. Who didn't cry when Littlefoot's mom died. Nemo's mom bit it in the first few minutes. Heavy Metal is a weak example for it did have an adult audience, but all of us 11 year olds snuck a peek in the 80's. Where I do agree with MarzGurl is in the early 80's a few roads of animation really went the simpleton route. Some items like He-Man, the Smurfs, Captain Planet, Strawberry Shortcake, really went the cookie cutter road and the scripts really talked down to it's audience. But once again, if there is no audience, they just dry up. I celebrate the ones that succeed. Batman the animated series (c'mon harleyquin is hot yet very creepy), the Shrek series hit all ages, and anything Pixar related (Presto & Lifted are totally awesome), are reasons to enjoy and invest.

btw: They can have my Scooby-Doo when they pry it from my dead cold DVD player.

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written by godzilla1489 , November 25, 2008

I believe That you sh0ould of Done stuff on Donbluth in the Next part, or even of Given a preview of him in this part as well. He definately helped break the mold on kis movies, Going as far to have even STEVEN SPEILBURG AND GEORGE LUCAS Take off 10 Minutes of The Land Before Time due To content. Don Bluth Really has a sense of the fact that Just because its G rated, doen't mean its mature enoguh for adults to love as well (The 80's Filsm he did shows this especially) The Reason why he has been essentially kicked out of Animated Film Making is because o the Fact his films Today would be Considered Too dark for children. BULLSHIT! I watched Todd Mcfarlanes Spawn When I was younger, Iand I loved it. Same with the Simpsons and Family guy. To say kids couldn't handle the Same Material Adults can see and a somewhat smaller scale is BullSHIT!

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written by paulthesane , November 25, 2008

I had some VHS and Beta cassettes featuring a bunch of Donald Duck and Daffy that had some of those propaganda cartoons on them.
I was 8.
They are not banned at all, they are just hard to come by.

Animation as a creative medium.
written by gasto5 , November 26, 2008

Great to hear other people realize the potential of delicate animations.
Classic animation is probably the hardest art form to master. It requires a mental-rendering of the characters/scene before actually brushing the lines, furthermore the hand(s) must be trained to hundreds of pencil pressures, stroke subtlety and hand stability & possitions(training the hand to stay still , or move gently when wanted)

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written by ScrubsRotinaj , November 26, 2008

Actually I do remember Donald Heiling Hitler. I came across it a few years ago. I showed it to my friend, and he said "Thank God I did not see this when I was young, or I would be traumatized."

Hey, I liked School House Rock, but for the point you were trying to proove, I digress. I Digress so much, I don't even know what digress means.

Animaniacs need to be mentioned in pt. 2. I'm currently obsessed, and was made for adults as much as kids, with good old fashon slapstick, and qitty homor, phrase strings, and tags.
For example.

"Wacko, what does procrastination mean?"
"(Yawn) I'll tell you tomorrow."
On top of that, they made sexual harassment funny. HELOOOOOOOOOOO NURSE!

Hey, great to have you back!
written by Listior , November 27, 2008

History of animation eh? It was a lot of fun, no daoubt about it. I myself am looking forward to Bumpy after you featured him in the teaser.

By the way: There is a DVD which includes some of the WW2-Propaganda-Movies (especially the one with Donald in it). It is named "Ducktators" after one of the featured films in it and was produced in 2004 (well, the PAL-Version by CMV Laservision was).

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written by staplerinjelle , November 28, 2008

Oh crap! I have a VHS tape of a bunch of old WWII-era cartoons