Marville #1

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  • Bullderdash
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    First Review of the New year. I just wanted to say thanks for continuing to put on such an outstanding show each and every week. I look forward to hearing your theme song each monday, knowing that another crappy comic will get whats coming to it.

    Heres to another great year for Atop The 4th Wall
  • ultramanmattia
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    Is Robocop vs Terminator going to be next?
  • ultramanmattia
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    ''If you have to explain the joker there is no joke!''(tears apart a piece of paper).

    Have you got it Chris Bores?
  • Linkara
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    Yep! Editing it now as we speak so it'll be ready while I'm at Magfest.
  • ultramanmattia
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    Thank you Linky! I can't wait for the new Miller Time.
  • ladydiskette
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    All right! Another Miller Time! I love how he tears into those comics like a orphan through a crusty loaf of bread. :D


    Have fun at Magfest Linkara!

    The comic with all its jokes about Ted Turner seems to have completely leave not one self-referencial joke (as bad as it could be) for Jane Fonda I have noticed.



    Also I have a Mettalica t-shirt, a Pink Floyd t-shirt, and a AC/DC t-shirt. I guess that means Lars Ulrich is my brother, Roger Waters is my grandfather, and Angus Black is my uncle.
  • SojaSoja88  - Wow
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    I... am so sorry Linkara, that you have to drink yourself blind to get through this disaster. God speed...
  • SkullCap  - I'd drink too if I read this garbage
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    If one started a drinking game where you had to take a shot every time a legitimately funny joke appeared in the comic then you would leave more sober than when you started.

    Nothing, nada, zilch. Not one funny joke in this entire comic. Lewis, I love the fact that you were trying to find semblances of a joke in several of the panels.

    This comic's humor is on the same level as an Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg movie.
  • Furrama
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    Of course not.

    CAAAAPTAAAAAIN PLAAAAAANEEEET!
  • darkness shade sonata
    another firstie... at least this one was doing it for the new years.... nice review linkara
  • Cinnamon Scudworth
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    Wow -- that thing is hideous. And I'm to understand it goes down the same rabbit hole Cerebus does, but without the advantage of having previous issues that were good?

    Ick! I don't know if I ever want reviews of the rest of them. The idea of this moron writing about the deepest philosophical questions of mankind, as if he thinks he's some kind of GENIUS, just makes me ill.

    How much experience did Bill Jemas have writing for humor? He doesn't know anything about satire, setup or even logic....stuff just happens. Celebrities simply appear, out of their element, because they exist. Did Jemas actually get paid for this mess? (Well, he was President of Marvel, so I guess he paid himself....a lot, I'm assuming. Like, big bags with dollar signs on them....)

    http://www.4thletter.net/ 2009/03/the-marville- horror-part-1-better- sales-through-self- immolation/
    Here is the link Lewis shared in the credits that discusses the rest of them, if you dare.
  • BooRat
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    Wow, that was funny! You not the comic! Thumbs up on the Robot Chicken skits!
    CAPTAIN PLANET!!!!
    I was curious of this comic when I saw the cover in your videos and thought it was a serious comic... NOT THIS! I thought it was like a serious Smallville like take on some character!
    I kind of liked Smallville at 1st but dropped out around season 3-4!
    I read the wiki page on this which was very short another bad sign this is a terrible comic if not enough people read it to write a decent page for it or not enough people cared to do so! And from what I read the only thing that caught my eye was Caveman Wolverine but from that image you showed at the end it looks stupid as hell!
    So this was Ted Turner Jr. story! Man, that was worst than I pictured!
    I didn't get one single joke or reference in this book and I know a lot of useless trivia! People need to learn that good comedy and parody comes from playing things strait not complete goofiness!
    I think the joke of his name being Orel is a joke on Oral as in BJ!
    PS: If you ever do another countdown of funniest jokes of yours the slow humorless laugh was pretty damn funny! :D
    The only good thing I can say about this book is the artwork isn't terrible! woot!
  • ultramanmattia
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    And thumbs up for the Acxe Ventura bit.
  • BooRat
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    Maybe, but the Cybernetic Ghost of Christmas Past from the Future does! :P
  • SpeedyEric
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    I also thought it was gonna be told in a serious manner, but in the words of AVGN, "It was like biting into chocolate covered $h!t."
  • Eddie The Lightbringer
    I actually have Marville lying around somewhere because it sounded interesting or otherwise hilarious as a parody of Smallville (which I liked for the most part and stuck with it until the very end, even though season 8 was pretty crappy in the first half.) I quickly lost interest in the comic because I didn't understand half the crap they were talking about.
  • Heisanevilgenius
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    Note about your remarks about the explosion sending them flying: That's movie logic. If someone is close enough to an explosion that it can send them flying, they're close enough that the blast would kill them instantly.
  • mandros
    @17:55 holy crap i got that shirt for my birthday

    otherwise i see no reason for this comic to exist. its a black hole of logic and humor
  • fusionater
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    CURSE YOU LINKARA!!! I WAS ABOUT TO GOO TO BED! YOU BASTARD WHY DIDN'T I READ YOUR BOOK!!!
  • Rahhel
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    Actually I kinda liked the "American Way" line. :)

    Duuuuuude, you missed the "Free Sonic"!
  • CartoonFireworks  - Oh, how I do love puns.
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    Such comical badness...
  • LaCapitana
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    Parooodyyy faaaaaail.

    This was a pretty hilarious review. Why on earth would you publish this? As you said, it's not like comic book fans necessarily know all the behind-the-scenes politics when it comes to comic books. Comics aren't necessarily like sports, people aren't going to talk passionately about editors and writers in the same way that you would talk about players and managers and leagues and stuff like that.

    Comedy is harder to write than people think. You have to know how to set up and subvert people's expectations. The humor also can't rely too much on referencing other material- if the humor doesn't work within a story's own context then it's going to be obnoxious like this comic is turning out to be.
  • Heisanevilgenius
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    By the way, I read Marville #2 and actually found it pretty funny at parts. Thankfully I didn't read #1 first, because by the looks of it, that would have completely crushed any kind of enthusiasm I would have had.

    This looked pretty bad... though, I have to admit I laughed when the cop showed up with the second big bag of money. I'll give the comic a point for that.
  • NerdyScholar
    Great review, dude) This comic sure sucks the big one, and all those jokes about Marvel somehow being better than DC - aside from making no sense, they really seem kinda... offensive. At least really, really, rude. As much as hated Joe Quesada as Marvel's editor-in-chief, at least he didn't do anything like that...
  • alex!!  - Never read it
    Because at the time it came out everyone said it was horrible, but i was slightly bothered by the trend in the review where you seemed to be suggesting they should never make referances too current events because people might not understand them if they read later.

    Other than that, great review.
  • Linkara
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    Sometimes they're appropriate and sometimes they aren't. For example, me name-dropping Dan Slott and Brian Michael Bendis makes sense since they're writers most associated with Marvel, a comic book company, and this is a humor show ABOUT comic books. Admittedly, a good chunk of my audience don't know who they are, but that's because my reviews have branched out to people who don't know about comic books, plus after 160+ episodes, people have grown used to this show being able to reference various different things.

    And there is an MST3K motto at work here - "We don't say 'will people get this?' We say, 'The right people will get this.'"

    Sometimes that really DOES work and it helps create a broad base of comedy that can appeal to many different people. Marville, on the other hand, makes dated references to individuals higher up in the food chain of the comic industry and baseball references specifically because Ted Turner owns the Atlanta Braves... a fact I wasn't aware of until I looked it up on wikipedia. This is supposed to be a book parodying and mocking comic books, but it does a poor job of it and instead comes across as mean-spirited and made by a bunch of guys who got drunk or high and told anecdotes to one another about celebrity figures and thought they'd be funny as jokes in a story.

    Also: canine flatulence.
  • FunkyM
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    Yay for Yes Minister! Great vid, sir! And what a completely TERRIBLE comic! :)
  • yourworstnightmare
    Man, you're taking this way too serious. (seriously)
  • Yeahwhatever
    No he's not. Good comedy has to have some ground rules set. This trash, absolutely none of it, has any semblance of comedy or humor in it.

    It reads as if a mentally damaged 6 year old happened to see 2 pages of a MAD magazine from the 70's and said "I can do that!"
  • Bobzeaux
    Huh. I would have thought that by the year 5002 (assuming we're still alive by that point), all comics distribution would be digital in some form or another.

    Ted Turner can chop a meteor in half? Step aside, Chuck Norris. -_-

    RE: Playstation Nostalgia Trip
    EXACTLY what I was thinking upon Fonda's revelation. There are hardly any people today who know what a daguerreotype is. How the hell are Playstations and Ataris going to remain in popular consciousness for 3,000 years?

    I have an Optimus Prime t-shirt. If only that meant I was friends with Simon Furman and Bob Budiansky... *sigh*

    "I come all the way from the future, and all I have to show for it is this stupid shirt."
    Anyone think THAT would make for a better slogan on this guy's shirt? *lol*

    Man, the animosity in this comic is just ugly. What's the point in lashing out at DC's methodologies like this? Are we just going to forget how back in the mid-90s, both Marvel & DC universes shook hands and told each other that 'they've done well'?

    http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=DSsWVwFpNzs
    6:49
  • ultramanmattia
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    So that means i'm a friend with Shotaro Ishinomori because i have a Kamen Rider T-Shirt?
  • ultramanmattia
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    And also Go Nagai because i have a Grendizer and a Jeeg t-shirts.
  • SpeedyEric
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    I was actually hoping you’d review this comic after I saw this on a worst comics list online, and this is mostly because I’m a fan of “Smallville.” Also, If I had a bottle of Aldebaran Whiskey, I would also drown my sorrows away after seeing “Skyline” in the theatre.

    The cover art in this comic is a take on Smallville’s season 1 poster where we see Clark Kent wearing Lana Lang’s kryptonite necklace, has a red S painted on his chest, and is tied up on a scarecrow poll mirroring the crucified Jesus Christ.

    7:05- Well said.

    I also never heard of the Goodwill Games, and I think (after doing some Speedy research) this is because they were canceled in 2005.

    18:02- Yesterday, I was wearing my Transformers Autobot T-shirt (no joke). I wore it because I’m a Michael Bay fan (that’s the joke).

    20:05- This comic is creating a time paradox.

    23:44- I find this impossible to happen in the real world. It’s like putting a Blu-ray in a DVD player.

    If the handing out money thing happens in real life, the recession would have happened way sooner than it did.

    Marville is like “Epic Movie,” “Meet the Spartans,” and “Disaster Movie” if they were a comic book.

    I’m also surprised this thing doesn’t have any Smallville references.
  • Da Erkka
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    The way I see it, this comic's problem is that it's... Well, a comic. Have this been animated it could've worked, COULD'VE mind you.

    The humor they are trying to pull off reminds me of Harvey Birdman, except that show was actually funny but anyway, it reminds me of it because there some similar themes to it: people pull stuff out nowhere and people just randomly show up for example. If the bank scene was animated maybe it might've been slightly funny for the thief to just suddenly "zipped" by and grabbed the money bag and ran off quickly it might've worked better. MIGHT'VE.

    But because comics tend to be NOT animated we intepret them differently.
  • Johnny User
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    Ted Turner and Jane Fonda didn't go back in time too because it was risky? They thought the world was about to end! Certain death! How do you choose certain death over risky!?
  • TequilaFlavor
    "Ted Turner and Jane Fonda didn't go back in time too because it was risky? They thought the world was about to end! Certain death! How do you choose certain death over risky!?"

    From the way I see it, they did indeed choose what seemed like certain death over going back in time - I was baffled by that aswell, but perhaps Ted and Jane knew something horrifying about their time machine they wanted to keep their dirty little secret . . . ?

    All in all: Great review of a horrible comic, Lewis - though perhaps you went a bit overboard with your serious, logical approach at times (I get that it's part of the course, but I feel that the "this is why the jokes don't work" angle is more suited to judge a bad "parody").

    Btw: I did get a chuckle out of the scalper's "Let's just call it the American Way." line - unfortunately, it was the only one I got out of the comic itself and not your jokes about it, so that's probably not a good sign for a supposed "parody comic".
  • LikaLaruku
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    I feel 10 yottahertz stupider now. Pass the aspirin around.
  • Kaiju-Z
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    The pain... THE PAIN of this issue x n x
  • Akai
    What were they smoking when they published this?
  • LikaLaruku
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    Rolled-up turpentine-soaked wash rags.
  • CallingCtulhu
    It's like Animal Man. Only someone decided to take out any wit or humor. Or having a point, for that matter.
  • Keydan
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    Ok, I have to say this:
    Linkara, this is one of your worst reviews yet.
    The whole book is obviously farce and related style of humour
    All your comments about it were like, taking Space Balls and saying "but computers can't have jam in them, what is the point of that joke?"!!!
  • Linkara
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    "Jamming" the sensors is a play on words and funny. Mentioning that Ted Turner ran the Goodwill Games or that there was a baseball controversy concerning the Atlanta Braves is not funny.
  • Yeahwhatever
    Completly disagree with you. This is one of the BEST reviews of one of the WORST farce comics ever made.

    Reiterating a previous comment I made: Good comedy has to have some ground rules set. This trash, absolutely none of it, has any semblance of comedy or humor in it.

    It reads as if a mentally damaged 6 year old happened to see 2 pages of a MAD magazine from the 70's and said "I can do that!"

    It's stupid, the comic isn't funny, and every point Linkara makes is right on.
  • Kossmeister
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    The main premise is that a stupid teen from the future thinks that he's a superhero. Why couldn't they just have him be Ted Turner's son or grandson from twenty to thirty years into the future?

    Also, since's he's supposed to be a moron with no special abilities, seeing him actually manage to beat up criminals looks really out of place. That scene seemed to ruin what I thought was the whole point of the comic.
  • Landusk  - Marville fails hard
    This Book fail at been funny it like robot chicken with out the timeing and fail so fair even the joker won't read this, Hell I can img him riping this book how it keep failing puch line and talking about the joke then just doing it.


    Though I think if we going to see more review of this how it fail like you countdown we need to send you more Beer if you going to do the review of thoses book it be like Silent hill books but more of you beeing drunk and angry ^_^


    Love the review!
  • Pandia
    hey wait a second... Spoony's robot; Burton, is missing, and Pollo (spelled?) has moved to a new body.. Coincidence?
  • Zachary Amaranth
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    I got the chop reference immediately, and it was pretty horrible even if you get it immediately.

    Incidentally, it was dated well before 2002.

    ...I actually laughed at "clean underwear." I am so ashamed.
  • HankMan
    I did to, but only after I saw Linkara's face
  • BackLash
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    Maybe it's how you reviewed it Linkara, but I actually think this comic is so bad that it's good.
  • The_Awesometeer
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    I was totally thinking the same thing
  • LikaLaruku
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    It was at least nonboring.
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