Ultimatum #3-4

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Comments (236)
  • Bullderdash
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    Place your bets on how high the kill counter is going to climb this week
  • ultramanmattia
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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
    I liked Ultimate Wasp(mainly because i like asian chicks):'(
  • montanker
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    It'll be OVER 9000!!!!

    I'm sorry, I'll hit myself. (Slap)

    Oh, and I guess my "Ninja Style Dancer is the Entity" theory was wrong...
  • Schwarzer Ritter
    Of course. It is Bear.

    About Magneto cauterizing his wound.
    It is possible to create superhot plasma using magnetic fields. That would require a lot of other equipment, but so would the generation of magnetic fields.
    But I am sure the plasma would do a lot more than just cauterize it.
  • ladydiskette
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    [q]Of course. It is Bear. [/q]

    Please be wrong! Please someone be wrong about this...maybe Bear is a unwillingly participant maybe he is being forced to against his will and deep down hates the idea of hurting anyone even his Master, Linkara :(
  • Jackass Mask
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    Wow, the science and inconsistency of the story really sent you over the edge. You really gave into your hate on this one.

    Gooooood...Good

    A little further and your journey to pure rage shall be complete.

    I really used to like the idea behind the Ultimate universe. The idea that the could take these familiar heroes and present them in new ways and follow new storylines without having to worry about decades of continuity.

    To bad they then began to fall back into familiar territory with how their characters developed. And when fans didn't really like that they decided not to make good stories but instead went freaking stupid and insane. Ugh!

    Side note: As much as the ninja runs, I fear that he will not survive.
  • ladydiskette
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    Entity static

    If you look very closely there seemed to be a vague shape admits the static like the outline of something physical. o.O



    Anyone else see or notice it too or is it because its one O'clock in the morning where I live and my mind is playing tricks on me?
  • brick mooncode
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    Marvel has officially decided to discontinue all forms of subtlety. From now on all the heroes are Ninja Turtles, and all the villains are Shredders. This also means that no character can stand out in any way, regardless of their powers or history.
  • JRodHacker  - oh god, I wish you didn't say that
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    I'm sorry but your comment is giving me flash backs to the Image TMNT comics.....OH GOD! DONATELLO!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
  • SpeedyEric
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    0:56- And if “I” was a teenager reading “Ultimatum,” I would immediately become nauseous after seeing the cannibalism scene. Even Hannibal Lector would see this and say “That’s too much, my boy.”

    7:26- It’s okay, Lewis. You’re forgiven. I would also make these type of mistakes.

    8:12- Uh, Magneto, don’t you mean HELL of Earth? It’s just that… well… you’re killing millions of people. I’m just sayin’ that this isn’t peaceful, just …terrifying.

    9:21- This reminds me of the scene in “Batman” where Bruce says to Joker, “YOU WANNA GET NUTS!? Come on. Let’s get nuts.”

    I’ve read and own the first 2 Ultimates series, and I agree that Cap is just as awesome in those books as he is in the regular continuity. BTW, I’m also positive that he’ll also be kickass in the upcoming film. B)

    I also love stories which have a big group of heroes taking on an event that would destroy the world as we know it.

    14:20- Explain, comic. EXPLAIN!!!

    I think Marvel asked Samuel L. Jackson’s permission to use his likeness, and he also signed a deal to appear in films taking place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

    Man, this comic has you SO angry, I think this comic should be retitled as "Ultimate Marvel: Science, What's That?"

    The badass bits and the WTF bits of this comic is like eating one bowl of Jello and one bowl of mushrooms in one sitting.
  • silence_dais
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    When I saw the title card I immediate assumed there was going to be more Cannibalism. So wait, Magneto one of the most brilliant mutant tacticians (as the marvel universe portrays him) has the hammer of a living, breathing, Norse god and has the ability to wield said hammer, but chooses not too? Why not? Is that because he think it's not fair enough? He already declares himself a "god" at this point and yet he doesn't want to use an actual weapon of one? Fail writers. That is a horrible horrible Fail.

    This whole thing is a disappointing mess and it likes to keep changing it's idea of what Magneto did. Plus all those cool moments? Yeah shame they are buried under all that crap.
  • ProudBronie  - It's okay Linkara.
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    You made errors, but they aren't THAT bad and you had ways to back your statements up. Which is good.
  • KingGramJohnson  - Science?!
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    I'm surprised you didn't use the "Of course, don't you know anything about science?" gag for the changing the axis of the Earth.

    That science is SO bad! I'm sure fourth graders know more about planetary science than the writers of this comic. I mean, I do know comics are fake and can do some zany stuff with science and get away with it, but this is stuff that doesn't even make sense!

    Fantastic review, Linkara! I'm enjoying this run of comics. Thank you.
  • FullmetalNinja25
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    Fuck this Comic, I know I said it was like the Countdown of the Ultimate Universe when I requested it but compared to this shit Countdown is a coherent comic that does some doing people.
  • IisAwesome
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    i think you should comment on how awesome thor is more
  • Crossover Princess
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    The times you played "America! Fuck Yeah!" made me laugh a lot. That is the perfect song to use for Captain America, especially in this one.
  • SanJ922
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    Why...won't...it...STOP?! ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? !
  • Blitzkrieg1701
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    Did anyone else get a bit of a David Lynch vibe from the stinger? Creepy.
  • ladydiskette
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    Yeah, what is NSD planning and why is the Entity following him?


    UGH! This has got to be thier most elusive villian yet! We don't know what it looks like, what it does to its victims. And most of all what it plans to do any further! Something bad is going to go down I just know it!

    The Suspence is tearing me apart! 0___0
  • rumdumconundrum  - Odd site things...
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    for some reason I saw this on that list of videos that you see at the end of videos, but before this episode was on the episode list on your page on this site... forgive me for my ineptness on internet technology, but how exactly did that happen? can anyone explain? oh, and it isn't showing on the "latest videos" list.

    Anywho, great review as usual for a terrible comic. Sad, really, that you're forced to martyr yourself for us with your comedic talents, taking the full hit of the dark side of the comic world to shield us from its horrors.
  • hollychristine
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    ... if you only saw this video because it appeared after you watched a different video, how did you get here to make your comment?
  • rumdumconundrum
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    I saw the video first when it appeared because i was too eager to see it. I then went off to do other things and later saw that the list had caught up. I thought that then was the best time to ask my question. That's how. And thanks, Semudara. That makes sense.
  • Semudara
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    Videos appear in that post-video area from the moment they are uploaded. Those videos are then only "posted" a fair while later.
  • mlsterben
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    No, see, it all makes sense! Magneto knew that after losing half his arm, he could simply find Mon Mothma and get a robot replacement. Then he'll have to find the Blob's head, reattach it, and cut it off again for the Quickening. Then he'll go to the 7 1/2 floor, go through a portal, go into John Malkovich's head, and use him to be the soothing voice that tides America over until he can create his utopia. Although, he may need to recruit the Care Bears, the Kool-Aid Man, and the Quik Rabbit to help assuage the panicked populace. Then Stan Lee makes a cameo doing something silly/heroic while Nick Fury and Danny Zuko try to deliver The Kingpin his soul in a glowing briefcase. No time for that, it's time for the Tandy Whiz Kids to help teach Magneto the glories to be had in an Office Max, especially dated computers, with the help of all the teachers Magneto spared. Then, in an ironic twist, he'll confine all the krull to a concentration camp in Johannesburg and use a magnet-powered Delorean to make them land there in the early 80s. Gaff will leave him an origami unicorn and the fifth element is Milla Jovovich. Rick Moranis will run wild in a brown jumpsuit with a leaf blower attached to his back, frogs will rain down on L.A. (due to a magnetic storm, naturally), Tom Cruise will immigrate to Japan to practice his swordsmanship and bad grasp of the Japanese language, Sam Rockwell will both smuggle himself to earth to reveal a big cloning/labor conspiracy AND make a series of weapons deals with the DOD (he's cloned, you know), and Santa Claus/The Ultimate Warrior will attack a small town in Alaska, only to be thwarted by a quarter-angel with a holy nutcracker and his girlfriend, who had left The Island from LOST to live the life of a hillbilly in Alaska. Finally, Racer X will be revealed to be Wolverine's long lost older brother, whom he had thought died before the attack on Pearl Harbor (but not before Wolvie had sex with Kate Beckinsale and Clive Owen, who were shooting werewolves during their mutant/vampire/man in need of therapy three-way). Then Magneto will wake up and find that it's all a technology based dream, and that he never really left the total recall facility. He will then pick up where he left off as a construction worker and champion running man. His daughter Wanda will probably be kidnapped at some point, and he'll first need to defeat the League of Evil Mutant Exes and then have to throw a pipe through an gay Australian's chest with his magnetism to save her. While driving back home victoriously to Megadeth he'll accidentally be sucked out of this bizarre world and, after some wacky antics, will be shot, meet Prof. X as Death, and go back into the movie to be greeted by a worried feline Danny DeVito. After the credits roll, you discover that a conspiracy is afoot. All these events had been planned, long in advance...

    DR. DOOM IS ROSEBUD.

    See?? Perfectly logical!
  • catornocat  - wait what?
    head explodes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

    bacon bacon bacon
  • Dark Crow I
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    I really need to start reading comics because the only ones I hear about are from your awesome show and they are terrible from what I can tell.
  • Mr.Whatever
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    Isn't Magneto Jewish? Why is he quoting the bible and not say, The Torrah?

    (I would like to add I know next to nothing about Judaism and consequently don't know if the quotes are shared, like in The Old Testament or something)
  • pinky75910
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    Hmm. Good point.
  • hollychristine
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    The Torah is only the first 5 books of the "Jewish Bible" aka the Tanakh. The Old Testament is the Tanakh.
  • BooRat
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    I'm not knolegeble on the bibles but the old testiment is the Jewish bible wiether the quotes he's spouting are old testiment or not IDK!
  • Damonashu
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    You know Linkara I always wondered; is it two page spreads you dislike or just two paged spreads that have to be turned on their sides?
  • Linkara
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    Just the ones that need to be turned on their sides. It just doesn't feel like it serves any practical purpose for storytelling and it takes me out of the story. It'd be like if you were watching a TV show and suddenly in order to see it properly you need to turn the TV on its side.
  • BagOfMagicFood
    There are some handheld video games that require you to do that, as a matter of fact.
  • catornocat  - terrible
    @Linkara I have no idea how you plan on surviving ultimatum number five as this one made you so mad
  • ElementalOgre
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    Through all the moments, through all of the gore, all of the Bible quotes Magneto seems to be throwing out there, it really cheers me up when I see Captain America act truly badass through it all. Especially considering The Ultimates 3 reviews. Keep it up Captain, I'll be routing for you.
  • catornocat  - surprised
    @ Linkara no mention of how far out mystique's spine curves out? Your brain must have lost the ability to process that
  • Sewblon  - Two things.
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    The bible quote from Pulp Fiction is not actually in the bible. Quentin Tarantino made it up. And if you shifted the earths axis fast enough and far enough, you would cause enough vibrations to get earthquakes and tidal waves, but you would certainly not get a regional ice age that happened fast enough to freeze people in place as they walked through a city.
  • Linkara
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    Erm, according to my Bible, it is. Mind you, the wording's a bit different, but mine says thusly:

    Ezekiel 25:15-17 - "Thus says the Lord God: "Because the Philistines dealt vengefully and took vengeance with a spiteful heart, to destroy because of the old hatred," therefore thus says the Lord God: "I will stretch out my hand against the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethites and destroy the remnant of the Seacost. I will execute great vengenace on them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the Lord, when I lay my vengenace upon them."

    Ezekiel 25:6 may also be the better source for the "those who strike down my brothers" bit.
  • pinky75910
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Pulp_Fiction#Jules.27s_Bi ble_passage
  • Linkara
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    Fair enough, but the ending bit is still there. XD
  • Jezzy54
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    I would be more interested in the Bible if it was read out by Samuel L. Jackson in-character.

    "IN THE BEGINNING, GOD CREATED THE MOTHERFUCKING HEAVENS AND THE MOTHERFUCKING EARTH!"

    No offense meant to Christians, I just couldn't resist.
  • dennett316
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    Damn straight it would. But if you wanted to be a bit more respectful then Morgan Freeman would kick ass too.
  • Drake666
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    The thing is, everything Morgan Freeman reads became gold !

    Books, adds, porns...

    Think about it...
  • BooRat
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    This year's Oscer winner is... Morgan Freeman Reeads from a PHone Book!!!!
  • ladydiskette
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    @Jezzy54


    None taken, we have dealt with worse :)


    But seriously Samuel L Jackson reading the bible outloud! That would be AWESOME! :D I mean, his voice alone is pure epicness!
  • Gift of the Magi
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    Who was that artist that did the Crisis on Infinite Earths? That man could pack SO MUCH into one scene and STILL not have to resort to a full page spread.

    ...but just imagine how much he could pack in if he did...
  • Oreyee
    @Sewblon Linkara's got the reference for your bible upset, and as for the other, he wasn't arguing that messing with the axis wouldn't cause havoc, he was pointing out that messing with the axis WASN'T the cause given at first, and that Jeff Loeb is backpeddling on his own continuity.
  • Ctu
    Watching this movie just makes me look forward to the Captain America even more.
  • TamLin
    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to overrule everything positive that Linkara (and everyone else ever) has said about Ultimate Captain America after he used a kindergarten class as a human shield in an issue of Marc Millar's "Ultimate Comics: Avengers".

    No, seriously, that happens; Captain America runs away from War Machine, stands in the midst of a group of five and six year olds, and dares Rodey to shoot missiles at him. I am not making this up.

    Oh, but hey, they were French kids, so I guess that's okay. Cuz Ultimate Cap is a fucking asshole about the French.
  • DMGirl3000
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    I thought it stood for

    A FRENCHMAN
  • BooRat
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    Wow MArc Miller is getting Darker and Darker with his critique on American Superheroes!
  • Mattevansc3
    He doesn't use them as a human shield, he knows Nick Fury would never let any of his Avengers cause an international incident by firing on kids. A human shield is when somebody uses another person with the explicit purpose of them taking a hit before you.
  • Grind
    The Doctor Strange part makes less sense when you read the Spider-Man comic that connects to Ultimatum.
  • mrskippy
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    Unless Ultimate Doctor Strange is a total pussy, the fight with Dormammu makes no sense anyway. I mean, Dormammu's good, but still, no way does Doc Strange go down without a fight. He's Earth's Sorcerer Supreme, Damnit!

    ...at least I assume so, I haven't seen an ultimate Doc Voodoo, nor anyone else who would fit the title, so...
  • Drake666
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    You're right !!! He's supposed to keep guys like Dormammu in check ! (ok, Dormammu is pretty powerful but, I think he's not supposed to have all its power in our universe...)
  • BooRat
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    In the Ultimate Universe that was Dr. Strange Jr. the origional's son that actualy know very little useful magic and from what I understand is more of a media guru that you'dsee on like Dr. Phill and Opra!
  • pinky75910
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    Killer Tomatoes FTW!

    This is quite the science lesson. And hooray! Linkara used my Captain America argument!

    With all these deaths, in addition to teaching us that life is meaningless and that it's pointless getting to know any of these characters, it also gives the unfortunate impression that these heroes are pathetic if all their superpowers can't save each other or the city, let alone themselves. You'd think *someone* would've seen this coming, *Someone* would've done something, even if it was just the Weather Service!!

    Given that I know these characters er.. 'survive' this issue in some form or other, I feel like writing this out of continuity as just a bad dream. Given that, yeah, i know Nightcrawler has his limits, but it just seems ridiculous that a simple natural disaster could decimate this many supers at once. So much mindless slaughter is laughable.

    Dormamu is tons stronger than Torch, what would he even want/need him for?

    FF! Stay away! New York is officially a death trap! Kansas, er, New York, all of New York, is under water!

    To be fair, I've always wondered when one super is battling the bad guy of the week, what are all the other bad guys doing at the same time? Taking the day off? Still, I would think at this point even Dormamu would take a moment to find out or even put an end to what the heck's going on here today if only to ensure there's still a world to rule at the end of the day.

    And again, doesn't the military have higher priorities than chasing after the Hulk? Especially since doing so just *ALWAYS* works out so well for them?

    'Yes! Of course! I pissed off Magneto, hoping he would destroy the world! I didn't think he'd actually *DO* it!'

    Wow. Attacking Magneto, the guy who just offset the magnetic p- I mean the axial p-, I mean, he did something, and he just totally allowed her to chop his arm off? Are you kidding me?

    Hmm, Are ya gonna do just the one issue next week?

    I've never seen Pulp Fiction, but I hear everyone reference it. It just never looked like a movie to me. Am I wrong?

    Til next time, for our exciting final act..
  • BooRat
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    Pulp Fiction is a cult classic you can see it edditted on AMC all the time or you could rent it but be warned (SPOILER) if you don't like or have issues a shitton of curses, violince, drug use, and man on man anal rape then this movie might be a problem for you!
  • Jezzy54
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    So, looking at my Ultimatum tie-in Ultimate Spider-Man comics again, it turns out that the Hulk had a random spaz attack after seeing Daredevil's corpse (Another unnecessary death), accidentally broke captive demons out of the Sanctum Sanctorum (i.e. "Dr. Strange's house"), and tried to get the demons back in by punching stuff. So yeah, that's a pretty glaring omission in the story proper.

    Actually, Ultimatum and its aftermath were the last straw that finally got me to stop buying Ultimate Spider-Man. The fact that they're killing the character off is actually pretty cathartic to me, because I've grown to hate Ultimate Marvel. It just feels bland and soulless to me now.
  • BooRat
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    I'm still wanting to give this series a shot but they just keep screwing things up!
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Magneto could actually cause his blood to clot if he used a powerful enough magnetic force to move the iron in this blood... bu I think that amount of magnetism would also fatily disrupt his bio-electrical system.
  • Linkara
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    Actually, from many people who have commented elsewhere, he couldn't - the iron in our blood isn't magnetic. Like, at all.
  • PureGold  - Iron in hemoglobin
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    Actually even if it isn't currently magnetic any iron should be able to be magnetised if given enough electric force, now i don´t know the full extent of his powers but shouldn't he be able to magnetise metalls? Otherwise he would only be able to interact with magnets.

    From that point though, he could through several means have clotted the bleeding though it would either cause him to have a heartattack or make him pass out from one of two things Bloodpressure or lack of iron in the actual bloodstream which would cause him to suffocate.

    Also whilst i'm at it.. Great vid and all but if you would have played America fuck yea one more time i would have gotten an aneurysm,
  • BooRat
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    From what I read somewhere in that scene he used his magnatism to vibrate his atoms to basically burn the wound shut... wiether that is anyway possible escapes me as I'm not into magnet like alot of people!
  • lycanfan  - Here we go again...
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    I know I said this on the first installment of this review but I'll say it again: in my 20+ years of reading comics, this is, without a doubt (for me) the worst comic book I've ever read. I hate ever single, panel,every pointless death, every word. I've read Cry For Justice. I read Countdown. And yes, I even read OMIT and OMD (and I'm huge Spidey fan to this day), but nothing, in my opinion, tops the sheer unholy wretchedness of Ultimatum.
  • Schwarzer Ritter
    You know what is the stuipdest part of Magneto causing the flood?
    Even Doctor Doom, one of the smartest scientists of the world did not magnetic fields can do that. The comic basically admitted it is impossible by its own science.
  • DMGirl3000
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    Actually, you could cause a flood with magnetism, as water is a polar molecule, and could be dragged with a strong enough magnetic field. This would mean it would not have the traits found in tsunamis, due to it simply being dragged water, rather than a deep sea earthquake causing it.
  • JRodHacker  - Teen Rating must be relative.
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    I don't think they consider what teen readers want to read in a comic for the rating. I think their general idea was that teens by the time this comic came out would be used to disturbing gore and the like because our generation played such games as Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct.

    Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with you Linkara! This is crap!!

    I'm just saying I don't think the ratings department considers this what teens actually like, just what they might be able to handle.

    It's kinda like Mature content lables for comics/games with annoying sex puns. It's immature, yet they labeled it mature.
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