Now I want a crossover between Linkara and SFDebris.

It could be a Star Trek narration war!

lol...I just cracked up when that wine bottle wouldn't shatter.

Must have been a very (excuse the pun) "strong" vintage? XD

*gets shot* X___X

Yeah...except that I'm a little scared for Linkara now; it is EXTREMELY bad luck for the bottle not to break during a christening. I cannot stress enough how bad it is. If given a choice, sailors would completely dismantle a ship that resisted christening. Or at the very least, refuse to sail in it.

To say nothing of the act of renaming it.

Yeah, but this is a spaceship and they're starsailors. If the bottle broke it'd be bad luck. It works backwards 'cause it's INNNNSPAACCEEEEE!!!

That would be very awesome, and considering SFDebris did mention Bashir stealing Linkara's hat...

I've listened to a podcast that had both SFDebris and Linkara as a guest, so they do sort of know each other.

I get the impression from some of Linkara's comments here that he's never seen the Director's Edition; well worth watching even if it doesn't nearly fix all the movie's problems.

One other thing I want to touch on, regarding Spock's character resolution. His comment that his task on Vulcan is complete isn't out of the blue. Spock starts out wanting total logic, but through his mind meld with V'ger finds out that's not enough. The post-mindmeld scene with Kirk in sickbay, as well as the crying scene (which is iirc not in the theatrical cut, thus robbing Spock's arc of its conclusion, but was restored in the DE), those form the resolution of Spock's development. His comment at the end reflects that because of what he learned from V'ger, he no longer needs to resume Kolinahr.

Imo, Spock's development and its parallels with V'ger are just about the only part of the movie's premise that was decently realized in the film (though only in the DE, because it does need the crying scene to work).

that would be beyond epic :)

LMAO, that would be epic!

Awesome as always dude! Just makes me want to see a Trek/Wars crossover even more though...

Nice work on the review. Not big on Star Trek, but these do tend to be my faves.

Aw, 90s Kid wasn't invited to the christening?

BTW, if you're looking for other bad movie licensed comics, I was searching my on local store online out of curiosity, and found out there was comic made of... Rainbow Brite and The Star Stealer!!!!! My pleas to get the Chick to review the movie have so far come up empty, but if I can get the comic cheap, I would totally donate it to you for review.

Oh my god, rowdycmore, if you did that, maybe Linkara and Chick could do a crossover of that comic together. That would be awesome! :D

Dude! I love Rainbow Brite! That would be sweet!

I been thinking of reviewing it myself.

Like Simon Pegg says "every even numbered Star Trek movie sucks its a fact of life" and Star Trek The Motion Picture started that trend. It was an awful movie and a boring comic.

Great video Lewis! :D

Odd numbered, it's odd numbered.

Odd numbered...

But yeah, that theory held out for quite a long time... until Nemesis came out that is.

Yeah, from what people have said, Nemesis basically added in the amendment that while odd numbered movies were terrible or at best sub-par, and even numbered movies are generally good to great, any movie number that is a multiple of five tends to be really bad.

I - Meh
II - Great. Possibly Number 1 in Star Trek Moviedom.
III - Eh...but did lead to...
IV - Whales...IN SPACE!!!
V - Why did "God" need a spaceship, anyways? The worst of the Classic Series Movies.
VI - Ends the movie series on a good, if not high, note.
VII - Eh...and also lead to that whole dropping a bridge on him scene. :/
VIII - The best of the TNG movie series, and also a contender for number 1 spot, if at least for number 2.
IX - Eh...
X - I haven't seen this, so I cannot personally say if this was bad or not, but people around have not said much positive about this movie...no real comment on this.

XI - Aka Abramsverse Star Trek. My personal opinion is that this was a great entry to the movie series. Had a heck of a time watching the movie twice in theaters. Probably the movie to break the Star Trek Theory/Curse of movies.

Of the 11 Star Trek films, I've seen IV, Nemesis, First Contact, Generations (the Next Generation one with the original cast in it), the new one, and the Wrath of KKKKHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA AANNNN!!!!!

I didn't like IV, The new one,and parts of Nemesis.
IV the reason is..........it just sucks.

Since when was one an even number.

haha fail

Comicron 1. …Yeah, it has a good ring to it. Also, I really like how Liz laughed a bit after Harvey said “booze.”

I agree that “Star Trek: The Motion Picture” isn’t the best of the 11 Star Trek films, but I actually started liking it when I entered high school, and I have the Director’s Edition DVD.

5:03- I guess I Should tell my graphic novel copy of “Transformers: The Animated Movie” the same thing.

8:52- This scene was actually added into both the TV edition and director’s edition of the movie.

9:37- Thank you for saying that, Lewis. Speaking as a Star Wars fan, I really appreciate that. =)

You have some really good jokes in this episode. I lol’d to the Power Rangers joke, and I was wondering if you were gonna show Transformers on that one part.

I agree with your statement about the Star Fleet uniforms. Also, the ones from the first film were a pair of detailed long underwear with attached shoes and no bathroom zippers.

Well, now we at least know there Seven-of-Nine got her clothes from (and to be fair, Kes in her last Episodes before she had to "go" to..)


And Star Wars rescued Star Trek.. kinda cool actually~
I am Fan enough from both of them to find this just awesome.

I also love both the Star Trek films and the Star Wars Saga; Wars is #1 favorite, and Trek is about #10.

Oh that bottle... That was extremely funny.

Also I liked the fact that you constantly changed your uniform, that was actually a good idea and it helped with the review.

There are a ton of symbols with no feelings or emotions connected to them at all, after all letters and numbers are just symbols, the number 3 doesn't mean any kind of emotion like anger or fear it's just 3 it's purely logical and has no emotional background.

Depends on how the number is presented. For example, the American flag has 50 starts on it in reflection of the number of states it has, giving meaning that all 50 are together and united and while separate are also equal.

If it's just a number 3, then you have to ask WHY the number 3 was chosen, what was the significance behind it, and why, then, is it being used as a symbol to represent something?

Plus, it's presented as an award. What is the logical purpose of such, when you already know what you've achieved? Merely being told by one perfectly logical person that you are also a perfectly logical person should be enough.

But that's the thing. The whole Kolinahr, like other deification of perfect logic, is actually an emotional concept. These people desire to be logical, and desire is an emotion. There's nothing logical about assuming behaving perfectly logically is superior.

The Vulcans are like Data: they have emotions but do not recognize them.

To be fair, the Vulcans have a thing for ritual and custom.

They've always been more "logical" in a stoic sense rather than in a machine sense, more of a 'reason over emotion' than a 'there are are only numbers' sense. So they do have room for esoteric things and beauty in their society. After all, they ultimately have emotions and feelings, they just try to clear their minds of them as much as possible when making decisions and performing actions, and highly value order and structure over freedom and passion.

Maybe the symbol is something like the Vulcan equivalent of aleph numbers. Nothing says "pure, abstract logic" like infinities nested within other infinities.

Loved the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference.

Well, Linkara, you can no longer be god.

You don't need a starship.


Also, a symbol covers a concept (of which an emotion is) Like the dove represents peace and the Hammer/Sickle represents the ussr and further communism.

Actually, the Hammer-and-Sickle represents the powerful unity between industry and agriculture that the USSR is based on.

Well say what you will about the first star trek, at least William Shatner did not sing.

Considering it's called "The Slow Motion Picture" or "The Motionless Picture"...

Oh, and that little bit that had the crew member saying how Decker would be devastated was indeed in the movie. I know it well enough that every line is pretty much verbatim.

The Director's Cut is a marginally better film. They cut down on the gas-cloud-acid-trip sequence a lot and added a full exterior SFX shot of V'Ger. The five minute Enterprise exterior tour? A thank you to the fans.

And I heartily recommend picking up "Ilia's Theme" from the soundtrack.

Anyway, entertaining review. I'm not quite as much the Star Trek geek that Linkara is, but pretty close. :D

I hadn't thought of "The Motionless Picture"
So far I had considered
Star Trek: The Regular Picture
The Sequential Picture
The Non-Motion Motion Picture Motion Motion

And suddenly the word motion began to lose meaning for me and looked like I was spelling it wrong.

Look up Steam Trek The Moving Picture on Youtube.

There never was, and never will be, a Star Wars/ Star Trek rivalry. There are only TV and movie writers who want to write about fanboys, and see nothing wrong with writing at length about things they neither know nor care about.

I largely agree with this.

I love both. Mostly because they are so different.

This was a great review but i got to ask when are you going to do Ultimatum?

As always, great review Linkara. I myself prefer the comic over the movie, mostly due to the fact that it takes a heck of a lot less time time tell the same story recycled from "The Changeling".

And if you didn't already know about it, you should check out the "Star Trek: The Complete Comic Book Collection" DVD-ROM set. It contains every Trek from 1967-2002 (including all the movie editions).

That is in his hands throughout the review.

The one he has just contains the movie adaptations. There's another one that has EVERY Trek comic released by Gold Key, Marvel, DC, Malibu, and Wildstorm, up until 2002.

Good review. I've never seen the first Star Trek movie but judging from the clips I can say it seems to have taken a lot from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

2001 a space odyssey was an art film that was meant to have the viewer ponder the mysteries of existence, where Star Trek:TMP was supposed to be a revival of the franchise which almost failed. Star Wars is what those movies should have been: action, close-ups of big ships as they pass by, and a decent story.

I do like that "FRIENDS" is bolded-

Do you really need to be entering a Captain's log *during* the crisis? Okay, I understand maybe there might not be a later, but I mean priorities man! Doesn't Enterprise have a little black box?

And is this really our best strategy when confronting a giant ship zapping moving cloud? Send a ship up there and start zapping at it?

Dang Spock, couldn't you just try *asking* for a space suit? Or like, steal one from the laundry room?

Evil Ancient Egyptian pyramids? My mind went to good ol Pyramid Head...

That has bugged me a lot too. Without emotion, you have no ambition. You might have survival instincts, but even wanting to live over just sitting and waiting for the inevitable is a preference. Fear of death is a pretense of knowledge. And an emotion.

Star Trek is still kind of foreign to me, but no more foreign than a comic I am unfamiliar with, so that's pretty normal. Despite this, I respect that Star Trek has a timeless and devoted fanbase, and while I am currently too ignorant to understand this, being a geek myself, I respect it. Plus, it's entertaining watching a geek like yourself explain everything and show your love for your fandom. Not to mention your classic Trek impersonations, give these Trek comics a unique feel from your usual comic fare.

I figured you were changing uniforms to avoid the Red Shirt curse.

I dunno, I'd figure a symbol of total logic'd be an abacus or calculator or something.

The leap in logic is more pronounced when you consider that Kirk encountered living entities that were basically giant clouds (Obsession being the obvious example.)

so...this comic doesn't suck? DOES NOT COMPUTE!!! DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!

Am I the only one who finds it just a little creepy the comic Kirk looks way more like Chris Pine than William Shatner? *oooooWEEEEEEooooo!*

I never understood this art style. They simplify the characters to the point that they don't look like the characters. A technically less realistic caricature would more realistic.

hahah oh man im not a fan of star trek but i love ur show
ur such a funny guy to watch, may be that why pple dont bother to read the jokes at the end credits, it just more funnier hearing and watching you tell it

Review comics of the other adaptations? You mean like the good movies?

Comic form of Khan. Yes.
Comic form of the 80s Frisco. Yes.
Comic form of Sybok. Yes.
Comic form of Kim Catrell's Valeris. Yes.

I'm not a ship expert, but in the movie K-19 the Widow Maker (with Harrison Ford) they say it's bad luck if the cristening of the ship doesn't shatter the bottle on impact...

was that intentional Linkara, or was it just a coincidence?

Coincidence, but a good one. =D

If by "more movie adaptations" you mean Star Trek comics, I'm all for it! I'd love to see a Wrath of Khan comic, but I guess it depends on whether it sucks or not.

I never get tired of the "evil that is ancient Egypt" joke.

He already reviewed a Wrath of Khan Comic and it sucked.

If you mean Star Trek #1, that isn't really a Wrath of Khan comic, just a comic that ripped off lines from it.

Star Trek # 1 was written about two years after TWOK was released, and a few weeks before TSFS. It has continuity errors because of a lack of communication between Paramount and Marvel. Linkara explains that in the video for that issue. also I believe that TWOK was adapted about two years ago by IDW comics.

wait a second, wasn't Gene Roddenberry an atheist, or at least a secularist? Why would the comic begin with a biblical quote?

Irony?

Because he didn't write the adaptation. XD

Do Wrath of Kahn next!

....... KHAN! (KAhN! KahN! Khan! khan!)

Capt.'s log: start date 1257. We continue our voyages of the starship comics con three, and continue to exploit the vast receives the terrible comics, to boldly go where only few reviewers dare to go, on top of the fourth wall!

Starting Star Trek music!

PS: number five, after all it was written by James T Kirk which means it's awesome by that standard alone!(Note the sarcasm in my voice, wait you can't do that this is typing)

::Looks at title card:: Well, that'll teach Linkara not to interrupt Spock's much needed beauty sleep.

Why does this make me want to watch Space Thunder Kids?

The movie is only good if you enjoy the music because there is not much else, and it was also better with the director's cut.

The novelization by Alan Dean Foster (under the pseudonym of Gene Roddenberry) does explain a few more things about V'Ger which helps the story along.

If anyone has read the "Shatnerverse," know this: THE BORG HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MOVIE WHATSOEVER. THOSE BOOKS ARE CONSIDERED NON-CANON BY STAR TREK FANS, THEREFORE IRRELEVANT.

also, the borg were introduced ten years later.

You're right. GR himself said the only cannon are the Live action TV shows and movies. Everybody knows the REAL origin of the Borg.

-Facebook combined with NASA sent a signal to the Delta Quadrant that teaches people how to build a social network. It reached a Federation type organization that spans a few star clusters recieves the signal and makes a Social Network called Borg Collective. Unfortunatley the Aliens became overly-innovative and took it too far.

I request that Linkara reveiw DeathMate