Lady Gaga #1
Written by Linkara Monday, 11 April 2011 22:41
Iron Liz actually had a different perspective on the comic and subsequently the review, and since I'm not so arrogant as to assume my word is gospel, I encourage you all to take a look and decide for yourselves! http://blip.tv/file/5006686
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04.11.2011 - 23:50 | Jackass Mask
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04.11.2011 - 23:57 | Transformers03Why would they make this?
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04.30.2011 - 14:37 | horroravgnto make money
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04.12.2011 - 08:49 | ultramanmattia
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04.12.2011 - 11:12 | edzoologist
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04.12.2011 - 12:42 | TragicGuineaPig
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04.22.2011 - 13:02 | SiireniasThis comment is pretty accurate.
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05.03.2011 - 22:31 | Lonny
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05.11.2011 - 16:17 | DarkBee
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07.03.2011 - 19:01 | shadaw_the_rampage
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12.14.2011 - 07:59 | RokuroCarisu
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04.12.2011 - 10:00 | diavid144Linkara has a spaceship. your argument is invalid
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04.26.2011 - 19:59 | Madara XIII
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04.11.2011 - 23:56 | TheDued92
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04.12.2011 - 00:54 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 07:13 | trlkly
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04.12.2011 - 16:06 | BooRat
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04.22.2011 - 13:03 | SiireniasI don't want to imagine a second issue of this.
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04.12.2011 - 16:34 | Marshmallowcreampie
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04.11.2011 - 23:59 | SpeedyEric
I also enjoy Lady Gaga, her music, and her videos, but why in the name of the Love Thing is their a comic about Lady Gaga? I never knew that she was in to comics.
4:22- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! !!
I’m just praying that you don’t review the Justin Bieber comic, Lewis, …for your good health.
9:49- I also agree that it’s right here that this comic has taken a strong dose of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds. I know it’s a parody of “Paparazzi,“ but it could possibly be the greatest WTF moment of comic history.
14:59- Bill, I’m a Star Wars fan, and my bedroom is filled with Star Wars merchandise, but I never talk about the entire franchise straight out of no where like the obsessed @$$hole you are. I’m smarter than that. …Anyway, how’s your sex life?
I’m half-and-half on Nickelback.
“Bluffing with my muffing.” No, I never thought of it until now.
Final note, I’ve watched Liz’s V-log on this comic, and I really enjoyed watching it. I can definitely follow on what she finds interesting about this comic. I also find it nice that you two agreed to disagree.
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*watching Linkara's freakout and lolz*
Um, Linkara, there are some nice men in white coats called doctors, they are going to put a lovely outfit on you called a "straightjacket" and take you to a wonderful place known as the "funny farm."
You will love it there...soft padded room to sleep in, three meals a day, lots of pills and no Lady Gaga comics about a sick twisted obessed fan.
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04.13.2011 - 09:20 | SlyDante
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04.12.2011 - 00:28 | hadomaru
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04.12.2011 - 01:15 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 04:08 | Sci-fi NerdI do not really have a opionion on Lady Gaga, but I do like Paparazzi. I prefer 80s music. Long live Queen, ACDC, and Journey!
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04.12.2011 - 00:12 | rowdycmoore
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04.12.2011 - 01:17 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 15:01 | rowdycmoore
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04.12.2011 - 00:17 | Ota-Kun
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04.12.2011 - 00:33 | pap64
Interesting, Iron Liz did a rebuttal in favor of the comic in her blog (which Linkara posted on his twitter).
I think the two of them have good points about this comic. I do see it as the guy being somehow liberated from his internal problems thanks to Lady Gaga music. That's basically Lady Gaga's concept behind her music: that people should be given the freedom to be as creative as they want to be and defy the conventions of society.
That being said, this is still a creepy story done badly. It does kind of look like the guy got so obsessed with Lady Gaga he wants to be her. It's one thing to be inspired to be yourself thanks to an artist, the other is to be them.
It was just very awkward, and no, I don't think its me thinking through a "straight" point of view. I consider myself to be gay friendly and I respect the BLGT community. It's just that this story had the right idea but done very poorly and, dare I say it, in a typical Lady Gaga fashion.
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04.22.2011 - 13:07 | SiireniasI should read that rebuttal. I also see what you mean, and it reminds me favorably of Mazes and Monsters (the movie).
What's being gay have to do with...anything, anyway? I don't get it.
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04.12.2011 - 00:35 | JohniBoiHoly fuck. This is amazing. I almost pissed myself at the buffalo billesque dream sequence. Seriously this is like something off of 4chan /b/ here people.
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04.12.2011 - 01:24 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 00:42 | snakes3425Hey Bill you know who else had obessessed fantasies like the ones you have: JACK THE RIPPER
How did this comic see the light of day again? Then again we're talking about company that thinks a biography about the President's dog or worse Stephanie Meyer is a good idea
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04.12.2011 - 00:54 | JTRex
I am just about to watch this, but I have to comment first, OMG LADY GAGA COMIC WTF IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD!?!?!?!?!!?!?
oh edit button: when the main character(is he ever named, don't care really) pushes Lady Gaga he is dreaming of the video intro to Paparazzi, the video he was just watching on youtube
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04.12.2011 - 00:44 | Deimos1984rd
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04.12.2011 - 00:51 | BooRat
I agree with you on this the guy that the story is about is completely insane! The 2nd issue should have him killing Gaga behind stage and freak everyone in the audince of one of her shows by walking out on stage wearing her skinned off face like one of Leatherface's mack ans starting singing one of her songs before the cops haul his crazyass off to the asylum!!!
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04.12.2011 - 00:53 | demin8891I give up on humanity. This comic was the last straw. I demand whatever all-powerful being there is end the world right now, someone starts WWIII, or the Andromeda galaxy suddenly goes into overdrive and crashes into the Milky Way several million years early.
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04.12.2011 - 01:00 | edjr1980
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04.12.2011 - 01:00 | Jezzy54
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04.12.2011 - 01:04 | Moon Spirit
I won't argue with your music tastes. After all, everyone has an opinion on anything: comics, movies, video games, and of course, music. You may like Nickelback, though I abhor them, but I do like Insane Clown Posse, before their last "Joker Card" album, Shangrih-la, or whatever it really is spelled as.
Other than that, damn, this comic is creepy as hell. Only a real Lady Gaga fan would get the references, and I'm not one of them. This truly is weird.
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04.14.2011 - 01:55 | MysticStudiosProductionsInsane Clown Posse gets a lot of mis-aimed hate, quite frankly. Metalheads complaining that they're a rap group, that sort of thing.
I'm a recovering music snob. I'm listening to a lot of things that I would have and had formerly dismissed back when I was an asshole. That INCLUDES Limp Bizkit.
Lady Gaga has got talent. Not a big fan of her music, but I admire her integrity.
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04.15.2011 - 05:38 | MysticStudiosProductionsICP really doesn't "blow" as rappers. They have a strong track record, lyrically, and they flow well. And Mike E. Clark is one of the BEST producers in hip hop. It's preposterous to say that the BEATS are "bad". Because ICP has a more organic sound than the current cold sound of mainstream hip hop? But also, I can't figure out what that their BEATS have to do with how they fare as rappers.
Eminem is guilty of writing some stinkers, but you can't deny that he's a really talented guy.
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04.12.2011 - 01:05 | iamnotincompliance
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04.12.2011 - 01:06 | SpaceGirlSpiff
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04.12.2011 - 01:30 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 01:09 | JackofAntics
I watched both yours and Iron Liz's videos about this comic. You both have good points. The idea of using a character who begins to use Lady Gaga's music as inspiration is very interesting. Too bad the comic dropped the ball on this.
Still, the fact that a Lady Gaga comic doesn't bring up the said person they're showcasing in the comic until the very last page...is rather sad. Yes, it does talk about her childhood or maybe it's expanded upon in the next issue but it some how didn't cut it for me.
Maybe it's just me, but I would've bought a comic that actually expanded on Lady Gaga's creations, like story for "Papparazi" and "Telephone" or maybe how she created them.
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04.12.2011 - 01:10 | Dr Forrester
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04.12.2011 - 01:33 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 15:08 | rowdycmoore
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04.13.2011 - 09:22 | SlyDante
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04.14.2011 - 17:16 | Morgoth Bauglir
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And that takes way more courage than sitting through thirty seconds of a Nickelback song.
And Nickelback sucks not because they're awful musicians cause they aren't inept at playing their instruments (though they aren't great or even good at them), they're just...boring and just seem fake. Their music is some of the most corporate, soulless stuff out there, I can listen to a crappy song and think, "Well, at least the musician cared about their song" Nickelback? They're whores.
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04.12.2011 - 01:11 | Perzyn
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04.12.2011 - 01:13 | Daemon25
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OK so I am 23 and don't get this how is she even popular she dresses like a whore treats her fans like shit (except the ones that get her good coverage)god am i too old to understand at 23????
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04.12.2011 - 01:34 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 01:22 | koudama
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04.12.2011 - 01:23 | Zydrate
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04.12.2011 - 01:31 | RockBandGod100Linkara looks possessed when he freaks out.
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Hey Linkara,
So I gotta say, as a longtime fan of the show and a transwoman, I got a little offended by this review. I understand that the main character's reaction up to the dream sequence comes off as a little obsessive, and the story in general is poorly told, but it becomes clear later on that the character is closeted in some way and desires to be somewhat trans-feminine, either as a cross dresser, drag queen, transwoman, genderf**k or what have you.
The way it's told is lousy I grant you, but it's basically the story of a deeply closeted individual coming to terms with their inner self via the vehicle of Lady Gaga, and I was actually a little happy that they portrayed the main character as someone considered unattractive by normative standards. This adds to the creepiness you seem to be experiencing, but also more accurately portrays the reality of a closeted individual who doesn't have passing privilege as female (which is really an issue for me right now since I am still in school and cannot afford to start my transition).
Now you've proven that you're very sensitive to the issues of both the feminist and queer movements and I'd like to think that you are an ally and a pretty awesome one at that XD And so I trust that you aren't being offended by the main character potentially being trans. And obviously the comic is not effectively delivering it's message and the artwork is horrible, so I'm not offended that you are criticizing it. But you really need to think about what might have been problematic with this review, because if I were a newer viewer and didn't trust that you meant well, I might never have watched this show again and thought you were a pretty transphobic person.
So it's okay, but please think a little bit before you dive in like that. Disclaimers aside, this review sends a really negative message about gender-non-conforming individuals, or at least, that's how I read it.
Look forward to more of your reviews.
-Kalinka64 (a.k.a. Grimzag)
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04.12.2011 - 01:38 | BooRat
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04.12.2011 - 02:00 | Linkara
Which is the opinion that Liz took with the comic and I encourage you to look at her perspective on it. ^_^
The criticism is valid and I was certainly not attempting to be insensitive about it. Rather, as I stated in the credits, I don't think that's what the writer was trying to push. Instead, the ending line about him wanting someone to recognize his "creativity" (along with the disappointment he has over getting a spam comment on his blog) makes me rather think he's not actually closeted, but rather someone craving attention and believing that he has some sort of artistic desire not being fulfilled by his drudgery of life. As such, he pursues it in inappropriate ways (disrupting work for his peers, going to a McDonalds in a wig, and fantasizing about being Lady Gaga and getting all the attention fixated on her).
Still, your viewpoint on it is just as valid as mine and I could be wrong and the author's intent WAS that he was closeted (the only speculation we have was on the Comic Alliance's review of it, where someone who says they're the writers says they wanted to do a biography comic that was less boring than normal biography comics).
Good point, though, about newer viewers, so I'm hoping that the ending credits text helps clarify my point for anyone just joining in. Thanks, though, for the comment and for watching! ^_^
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04.12.2011 - 02:34 | kalinka64
Okay, that makes a little bit more sense XD
I saw Liz's review before the first post here (I tried to post there as well under 'Grimzag', but her open id software is unresponsive so no idea if it'll actually turn up XD).
The problematic part for me was basically your response to the panel where the individual is wearing drag. It was a little bit of a knee-jerk response on my part, but I kind of assumed that you were screaming at the drag rather than the replacing Gaga part of that panel :/ I shouldn't have assumed that of you, and I'm actually really sorry since I'm certain that wasn't your intention, but too many trans-phobic jokes start that way (like the Family Guy episode... know what, we won't talk about that >
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04.12.2011 - 03:09 | Linkara
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04.13.2011 - 03:24 | Lucia32K64,
I understand your concern. Really, I do. I've spent years advocating for LGBT persons.
But your response (as you admitted later) was really knee jerk and completely misconstrued the issue Linkara brought up.
Your prior claims of him being "transphobic" and how "this review sends a bad message", is clearly not the case and a calm look at the actual video would have demonstrated this (the protagonist's psychotic desire to replace Gaga and to center all attention on himself is an insult to anyone who has actual friends and family who are trans or is trans themselves).
Having knee jerk responses and getting worked up does you no favors and does the cause no favors, apology or not.
Just try to refocus and give things another look before you fly off the handle and press that "send" button, okay?
I know there are alot of mean people out there. But Linkara is one of the good guys.
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04.14.2011 - 02:27 | MartianMan
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04.14.2011 - 04:12 | Lucia32I'm not. I'm just pointing out that keeping a cool head can save her alot of trouble and aggravation.
As the saying goes, "They that keep their sword at rest, need never apologize for shedding innocent blood".
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04.12.2011 - 15:37 | Axel Osbourne
So if I don't accept everything that's popular I'm an elitist snob? Guess I'm a snob then, cause I don't like most of what's popular now. (Gaga included) Oh well. Sorry, had to get that out of the way.
Kalinka64, in Linkara's defense, and I certainly don't want to make light of your situation (which I admit I know absolutly nothing about) this character was disgusting person that had a lot of mental problems to say the least (like fantasizing about Killing Gaga, and stealing her body)
So if they were saying that he was a closet homosexual/transgender, then they're also saying that being gay is a mental illness that makes you want to kill people. (Not exactly a positive repersentation, wouldn't you say.)
So I think Link was not so much upset that he might be trassexual, but that they were showing a transgender as a borderline serial killer. (He even says at one point that the story is an insult to all gay, bi, transgenders)
So again, I don't want to discont your feelings here, but I do think Linkara's heart was in the right place.
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08.28.2011 - 00:20 | CainZerosIt's not disliking popular music that makes the character an elitist snob. Gods know I don't like most of it. It's the attitude toward people who do. They aren't idiots, mislead, etc. They just have a different taste in music.
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04.12.2011 - 20:59 | MartianMan
Seeing as The majority of Linkara's reaction was based on the fact that the main character threw Lady Gaga over a balcony, and then proceeding to assume the identity of her, I think your offense is a little unnecessary. There is a difference between wanting to emulate, or even look like, an idol of yours; and wanting to kill and replace them.
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04.13.2011 - 10:36 | kalinka64
I realize now where the joke was coming from, and no, I really shouldn't have assumed that, especially since Linkara was the one making the joke and i know his record on these issues (in fact, the reason this was so disorienting was because I knew that record. I wouldn't have been as off-put if a reviewer with a bad record had made the same joke).
But I emphasize, it is a really dangerous joke to make, especially since the entire sequence can be very readily interpreted as the character having a rather Freudian cross-dressing fantasy. There is indeed a big difference between wanting to emulate someone and being a super obsessive fan, and the comic is EXTREMELY lousy at communicating which the person is, so in the end it really makes it a matter of how much weight you give the killing Gaga panel in the Character's psychology. Because if you remove that one panel from the story, there is very little else that indicates a psychotic character.
And that is probably FAR more analysis than the comic deserves, and you can listen to Liz to get the crux of that argument :P I'll just say that I feel that the comic better supports the main character as a cross dresser than as an obsessive fan (the Bowie hat and talking to Gaga in a school girl outfit are my main support here)
But regardless of which side you take, this ends up like Buffalo Bill in "Silence of the Lambs," in that it becomes really hard to separate the cross dressing from the potential psychosis. In Silence, You can take that as not being offensive because the movie told you not to be offended ("Bill is not a TRUE transsexual" I think the line was), but it still ends up coming off a bit negative towards trans-flok. It's even worse because "you're insane" is a common method of discrediting an individual's chosen identity in regards to gender.
So here, like with Buffalo Bill, the accusation might be leveraged correctly, but it's a very tricky thing to pull off well, in the same way that having a black person in a KFC commercial would be tricky to pull off. There's no reason a black person cannot like fried chicken, and in a truly post-racist society it shouldn't matter, but because it's such a well known and derogative stereotype and because racism still readily exists it's really easy to unintentionally offend someone, even if the sequence is otherwise wholly benign.
Not trying to get on your butts or anything ^^; Not sure what Linkara could have done to make the same point without causing that kind of initial response. Maybe a properly timed vignette where some other character acts exaggeratedly creepy about another celebrity to emphasize that interpretation over the "whoa, transvestite" interpretation?
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04.14.2011 - 02:32 | MartianMan
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04.12.2011 - 01:33 | Kimarous
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04.12.2011 - 03:27 | hollychristine
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04.13.2011 - 02:27 | Lucia32You've just described most musical acts these days. ;)
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04.14.2011 - 02:43 | CriticKitty
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04.12.2011 - 01:35 | badgersprite
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04.12.2011 - 02:02 | Linkara
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04.12.2011 - 09:47 | kalinka64
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04.12.2011 - 21:07 | 9anseanMighty Max had comics?
Well I guess that makes more sense than Polly Pocket comics. (shrugs)
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04.13.2011 - 09:43 | kalinka64
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04.12.2011 - 21:00 | MartianMan
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04.14.2011 - 02:22 | MartianMan
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04.24.2012 - 19:49 | Trekkie313SEGA bitches!
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04.14.2011 - 17:21 | Morgoth Bauglir
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04.15.2011 - 02:37 | MartianMan
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04.18.2011 - 14:09 | kalinka64
Hmmmm... time to choose.
Do I get a gun and a suit coat, then move to Chicago? Or, do I dust off an old fedora I recently found in the back of my closet and buy out a whole comic book store's back room full of unsold crappy comics?
Either way, I'm digging through someone's trash, so I better buy gloves.
See you soon! ;)