Justice League: Cry for Justice #3-4

Justice League: Cry for Justice #3-4

Written by Linkara Tuesday, 11 January 2011 01:52

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01.11.2011 - 02:06 | Bullderdash

Another wonderful Video from The Guy with the Hat

01.11.2011 - 16:46 | montanker

Loved the "New Justice Team" reference!
I'm gonna have that stuck in my head all day now...

"Clobberella beats you up!
Clobberella beats you up!
Clobberella beats you up!
Clobberella beats you up!
Cloberalla!
The New Justice Team!"

02.04.2011 - 14:32 | ladydiskette

Okay, so let me try and piece this whole comic together.....its basically the Justice League without the Geneva Convention?

01.11.2011 - 02:29 | mumbls

Love the Star Trek Music at the beginning.

You are a man who respects women, but even you stuck in that spot would have a reaction.

Where is the Corps in this?

KILL THE WABBIT!

Tylenol of Justice LOL

The Fix is probably how they came up with this idea.

01.11.2011 - 02:51 | Daemon25

This comic must be destroyed...FOR JUSTICE!

01.11.2011 - 02:55 | Inkpress00

Tylenol of Justice...

Loved the take on a nine year old's fanfiction. Especially with the 'sooper dooper' thrown in.

01.13.2011 - 18:43 | mrrubino

Is this issue about the formation of a new Justice League or something? Because they seem to be Justicing about Justice every 4-5 Justices or so. It really comes off as the building to something, possibly Justicey.

01.11.2011 - 02:57 | Inquizitor - heh

Having only looked at the title card would it be fair to say Linkara is in his happy place? :)

01.11.2011 - 10:36 | Tactlesscat

...No, and you're stupid for making that joke. Way to not pay attention to anything Linkara has ever said ever.

01.11.2011 - 16:25 | mrskippy

Or watch the video, as that was the FIRST COMPLAINT OUT OF HIS MOUTH.

01.11.2011 - 03:02 | GameKeeper28

FOR GREAT JUSTICE!

01.11.2011 - 03:11 | DuosAngel

Another excellent episode of AT4W. My god this comic's suckiness is painful to just hear about. I can't imagine the pain of reading it. Can't wait for the next episode.

01.11.2011 - 03:12 | LaCapitana

JUSTICE!!!!

01.11.2011 - 03:15 | rogueofmv

See your doctor today to determine whether JUSTICE is right for you. Side effects may include nausea, drowsiness, and the urge to torture supervillains by inserting yourself into their craniums. Results may vary and are not typical.

01.11.2011 - 03:17 | kelarius

your time scale is wrong if days can pass and its only a minute and you fired a missile that would take say 30 min to hit vices ship vice would only have a couple of seconds to respond it should be the other way around

01.11.2011 - 03:38 | Linkara

No I don't. Inside of the time shield things are moving faster than outside of it. From the point of view of the ship, things occurring outside of the shield appear to be moving slower.

It'd be like if I developed super-speed. From my point of view, everything would suddenly appear to be much slower.

01.11.2011 - 03:57 | kelarius

oh sorry i checked and i misheard the explanation apologies

01.11.2011 - 04:08 | Linkara

S'okay, it's just people have been telling me that all day. XD

01.11.2011 - 09:40 | SuccubusYuri

It might be the way you worded it XD I think when people hear it (I had to double back myself) just the way the auditory processing works people focus on the "it would only be minutes on the ship", rather than the entirety of the sentence, like it was "Dragon's Egg" or something of the sort.

01.12.2011 - 12:15 | KenxKao

That's basically what I heard, it just needed to be worded a little better in that one take. It's more like "days and weeks could pass on that ship, and it would only be minutes in our time." the other takes all sounded correct. But other then that, great job Linkara. Still love the B5 reference :D

01.11.2011 - 13:04 | SkullCap - Lewis I have a question...

Why is it the Green Lantern that always seems to have the problems? Many of the comics you review always seem to designate the Green Lantern with the problems. I'm not a fan of the Green Lantern, but good night:

JLA-Act of God series: GL is a depressing, unimaginative, neglectful, and nihilistic human being (not to mention a crappy boyfriend).
Justice League: Cry for Justice series: GL is an awful human being with a Rorschach-esque outlook on law & order, who tortures criminals to appease his own skewed moral outlook.

Why do you think the DC comic writers always signal out the Green Lantern as the spur for non-heroic behavior and indecent human nature?

01.11.2011 - 14:08 | JollyGoth

I think they just keep giving the books to people who can not write good science fiction. To use green lantern well you need a sci-fi writer. The green lanterns should have to deal with more than human issues, but they continually give Hal and the others 'humanizing' issues. The GL-Corp should be out fighting Cthulu type threats in space. Not torturing criminals for information!
I blame it squarelly on the writers and editors.

01.12.2011 - 21:53 | wswordsmen - Watch the video at 50s in

"Days or weeks could pass and it would only be minutes on that ship" starts at 0:50

I would say the people who have been telling you that you are wrong all day are right. Especially since you then go on to say that exactly the opposite of that.

01.11.2011 - 04:03 | dennett316

No, a minute outside the ship is days on the ship...he had it right.

01.11.2011 - 10:01 | brick mooncode

Don't think about it, it doesn't help.

01.11.2011 - 03:18 | SgtGunlock - As a Green Lantern Fan part 2

i'm disgusted that green lantern is in this story these not the characteristics of Hal Jordon this is more like jason todd in fact why didn't they just use him GOOOOD this comic is bad

01.11.2011 - 03:37 | LaCapitana

Maybe Jason Todd got a hold of some technology that allowed him to pass off as Hal Jordan!You know, FOR JUSTICE!

01.11.2011 - 03:19 | FantasyFoxman

It really, really sucks that you have to subject yourself to this abomination. All this JUSTICE must be tough on one's mind and body.

01.11.2011 - 03:30 | Angelic Plague

I think you meant to say that minutes go by for us, and weeks go by on Vyse's ship. That way, he'd have time enough to perceive and destroy the missiles/satellites before they touched him.

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01.11.2011 - 03:40 | Linkara

Inside of the time shield they are moving faster. However, they can perceive outside of the shield and since they are moving faster, everything else outside of the shield appears slower to them.

It would be like if I developed super speed. Everything around me would appear slower from my point of view.

01.11.2011 - 03:34 | Vahnyu

If this comic is right about how the ring's protection works, then I think it's pretty obvious what Hal Jordan's greatest weakness is... his LONG-LOST EVIL IDENTICAL TWIN CLONE FROM AN ALTERNATE DIMENSION(pick any combination you prefer).

01.11.2011 - 10:02 | ThatDudeInTheUshanka

I think that was a plot in the silver age.

01.12.2011 - 08:07 | Doates

Look up Power ring. He is from the Crime Syndicate of Amerika(because pour literacy is KEWL). He is from earth 3 in the DC Universe. It is like wat if the heros and villians of dc were reversed. I liked Owlman. He was badass.

01.11.2011 - 03:45 | Damonashu

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Another great video Linkara.

01.11.2011 - 03:47 | s0beit - Heh

You know I've been waiting for this, and I'm not even really a comic book fan.

It was by the powers of yourself and Spoony combined which made me read Transmetropolitan, and i think i have a new found respect for comic books that i really didn't have before.

Thanks for the video.

01.11.2011 - 03:51 | Vahnyu

By the way, I think torturing someone who turned out to be Clayface, therefor rendering the whole process moot, was kinda the whole point of the trap, the plausibility of said torture not revealing Clayface's Identity(what with his innards being made of whatever the hell they are made with), resting on whether he can completely mimic the human body, to the cells(serves them right for torturing someone).

But I have to ask, why? Why mindwipe them instead of simply killing them off and be done with? It's more honest, easier to be done with, and less likely to have negative reprecussions in the long run. Also, no, eff due process. Due process is for the criminals that the police CAN catch.

01.11.2011 - 04:27 | BBboy

Once again, tell that to every superhero who won't take a life.

01.11.2011 - 03:57 | DXM616

That's not Bizaro, it's Composite Superman.

And I can't be the only one saying "ACTING!" when clayface showed up.

01.11.2011 - 04:30 | BBboy

Still, it's absurd given that some of the villains aren't just baddies you cant take out with any sweat or scratches? Actually, WTF are they doing in Gotham (or on the streets no less)...actually, where the cops after that?

01.11.2011 - 04:09 | Zouri

Great, more torture. I like how quickly our "heroes" are to torture someone. It's like they are finding any excuse to torture someone. I think even the Punisher would find this excessive.

01.11.2011 - 04:13 | JimmydelaKopin

This is why I hate series like this--and why I hate the "Big Two" (which are rapidly becomes a couple of Big #2's, in my opinion): what to do with a bunch of low-tier characters? Kill them.
They turned Helix from the maybe-villains they were in the 80's into ruthless thugs...and now they're dead.
They now killed off Global Guardians...though I'd love to see the battle where the villains took down Seraph, given the source of his powers.

It's why I don't bother with the main books of either company: any character I happen to like will probably be killed off simply because the editorial departments are too pants-on-head stupid to hire a writer that can use the characters well.

Indies now and forever for me!

01.11.2011 - 11:11 | Kari

Sigh. The problem for me is that for every series like this one that butchers decades of continuity as well as countless characters, there's a good run that I loved. I've found that it's a better idea to read the books about "B listers". Seems the writers have a bit more freedom and less inclination to just worship Batman or something.

In general I'm right there with you, though. I prefer books that are now and have always been handled by a consistent person or team. No editor also means no editorial mandate. The problem I'm having right now is that my comic shop carries DC, Marvel and "indie", by which the owner means WILDSTORM, IMAGE, and DARKHORSE. He'll get me anything I specifically request, but there's nothing on the shelves that actually qualifies as indie. So, what are you reading right now, and is it good?

01.13.2011 - 00:28 | Blues

It's been a bad habit to try to make whatever hero seem better than another. batman, birds of prey, and wonder woman probably get this the most, usually with superman being their whipping boy(and batman for the birds).

I disagree about editors though. Editorial mandate is rarely from the editor(oddly enough) though the editor has to enforce it. Look, some artists start to get weird. Just look at frank millar, an editor had hold people back from ass shots of teens, and other flaws. So can having a co-plotter.

01.11.2011 - 14:14 | JollyGoth

It's sad really...I feel your pain my friend. I have not read a good story since Blackest Night and I feel that that has been suspect as well. I love Marvel and would like to get back into it but they have nothing to offer and I have no idea where to start reading again!
Indie books just seem safer. I have really enjoyed the last few books I have bought, like Girl Genius, and Y the Last Man. Good stuff and not filled with crap continuity.

01.13.2011 - 00:24 | Blues

Indies are just as quick to murder. maybe even quicker to make "heroes" that might as well just be junkies or psychopaths.

Justice League might be having a hard time for the past couple of decades but Justice society has had a lot of good runs.

01.11.2011 - 04:21 | Archedgar

I hadn't watched Linkara's work in awhile.

Tylenol of Justice was brilliant in its simplicity. I think I'll start watching Linkara's work again.

Well done. Also that guy who said that you had the "Time Shield" thing backwards is correct.

01.11.2011 - 04:59 | Linkara

I'm sorry, but he isn't. It's NOT a ratio, like where one minute passes on the ship a week passes in the real world or the like.

They're moving faster, so they perceive the things outside of the shield as slower relative to them.

Still, nice to know you'll be watching again, unless my response has soured your impression of me. XD

01.11.2011 - 04:21 | TamLin

This IS pretty horrible, but I'm still not quite sure why Linkara says it's the worst thing he's ever read. I mean, okay, once again, it's horrible, really, REALLY horrible, but I don't think it's quite as bad as "All-Star Batman" or "Identity Crisis" or "Ultimatum". Of course, it's not done yet...

Ah yes, one more thing; I know Linkara gets lots of requests, and he has a backlog of comics a mile long to get around to one of these days, however, if it hasn't already come up, I would really like to see him do a number on "Ultimate Comics: The Avengers" numbers one through six. Now, I'm one of the people who, unlike Linkara, really liked Mark Millar's first two Ultimates series, but this one...this is a piece of shit. It's just so, so horrible it makes my brain want to curl up and die. I was literally incensed when I read it, my hands were shaking, and again, that's coming from a fan of the previous stuff. So, take that for what you will.

01.11.2011 - 04:49 | Linkara

I didn't say it was the worst thing I'd ever read. I said I HATED it more than anything else I've ever read. There's a difference.

01.11.2011 - 10:43 | SpeedyEric

I said this in my comments in the last episode: At least this comic isn't as bad as "Bimbos in Time."

01.11.2011 - 11:14 | Kari

But Bimbos in Time isn't ruining other comics.

01.11.2011 - 15:25 | SpeedyEric

I know, but "Bimbos in Time" is the "Garbage Pail Kids" of comics, and Linkara agrees with me.

01.11.2011 - 15:19 | VioletZer0

Kind of like how I've played FAR worse games, but Metroid: Other M pisses me off far more than any other game does.

I don't get mad at games that are bad. I get mad at games that are offensive.

01.11.2011 - 04:23 | Jacky Voe - Still enjoying this

The Green heroes are some of my favorites, and I hate seeing them act this idiotic. These are not the heroes I have come to know and love.

I'm also looking forward to the future Identity Crisis review. Some people think that's a great book, but the heroes are made into unethical dumbasses.

Plus, I know Deathstroke is supposed to be one of the deadliest assassins and uses 100% of his brain, but I hated seeing the Justice League get beaten by him so effortlessly. The same problem I had with Prometheus.

I'm all in favor of extremely difficult villains, but I wish the heroes would put up more of a fight with them and not look so weak.

01.11.2011 - 04:25 | Shinigami

That bomb has to be one of most stupid things in comic books ever. It was that stupid.

01.11.2011 - 04:26 | Jackass Mask

I've never been a an of Hal Jordan. This might be because I didn't come into comics until Kyle Rayner was already the new Green Lantern, or it might be because Jordan is a bit of an uptight jackass.

Seriously, Ive read through a few of the old story lines. He wasn't really that interesting until he went crazy. Then because of this i think he actually got a fan base so they decided to bring him back...and they have yet to do anything really worthwhile with him except continue to make him a jackass. Even the new movie seems to be a bit out of place. They have Ryan Reynolds playing Hal Jordan with a sense of humor. So that tells me that the only way they could make this work was to play Hal Jordan like Kyle Rayner.

Let's just bring back the silly yellow bug and make him evil again, maybe he'll be interesting again.

01.13.2011 - 00:36 | Blues

you're confusing character with writing style. Back then, DC characters were a little dryer. You can still see the character's personality if you know how the writing is gonna be. I read a lot of older comics, so I'm used it and I realize when its something special.

Compare hal to Alan and you can see the difference in subject matter, and style. Plus all characters are blank slates. You think Kyle is funny cause he was written that way. There's nothing that says Hal isn't funny if he's written that way either. Green Lantern Mythos as it's currently known was created with Hal sans yellow bug. That's like saying Superman or batman were bland, that's the kind of thing that's completely dependant on writing.

I'm not really a green lantern fan but I've read stuff with Kyle and he's never stood out to me.

01.11.2011 - 04:44 | SSH - good idea going to your happy place!

first love the title card!
something tells me that this is going to involve the Z crystals,concert their are perpetual energy machine. For even energy slowly dissipate over time, a laser beam doesn't continuously go forever, by the time it reaches Vyse laserbeam has dissipated to a weakest level as possible, barely doing any damage, if any at all. and I'm guessing Vyse might have a little bit of Borg technology,not to mention the Masters of Time and space technology, who destroy everything, and their catchphrases is "exterminates"! so it's Z crystals OR the Terminator time transport device! and considering you would never give your fan girls the satisfaction of having a video of you naked. I'm figuring awesome laser cannon!

01.11.2011 - 04:50 | futuro

Love the irony of the comic repeating the word "justice" so much that it loses all meaning. Doubt it was intentional though

01.11.2011 - 04:57 | spade75

Stephen Hawking's going to kick your ass bitch!

I'm spade...I am monologuing, do my science!

01.11.2011 - 04:59 | jadkni

What is a hero? A miserable little pile of secrets. But enough talk, have at you! *throws wineglass*

01.11.2011 - 07:31 | Lucia32

Die, comic! You don't belong in this world!

Twas not by my hand that I am given ink. I was called here by writers who wished to pay me tribute!

Tribute? You steal good characters and make them crap!

Perhaps the same could be said of all fanfiction...

Your words are as empty as your plot! Comic nerds ill need a waste of ink such as you!

What is a nerd?! A miserable little pile of cheetos! But enough talk, have at you!

01.11.2011 - 05:04 | Folio - Vice >:(

A time slowing shield. Clever Vice.

But nothing is faster than light as we know it. Would a laser penetrate his shield with enough speed to stop him? Or... no... he would just dodge it.

01.11.2011 - 05:33 | Linkara

Not a bad idea, but unfortunately the time shield is still a shield, so even if a laser did hit, it wouldn't get past the shield itself.

01.11.2011 - 13:51 | Lepton

Aww... I was going to suggest a laser too, since light travels at the same speed in all frames of reference. What about 100 lasers? Like, 100 petawatt femtosecond lasers all firing at the same time in the same spot? That's what I would try.
I love your schlocky quasi-sci-fi Power Rangers-esque storyline, by the way. Lots more fun than just a review.

01.11.2011 - 14:19 | JollyGoth

Yes! More Continuity!!! I love good story-telling! See my post for more on this!

01.11.2011 - 14:43 | OtakuMan28 - VISION IMPAIRED

Provided that you have 100 Petawatt Femtosecond lasers TO fire at the same time.

That's the same as everyone aiming for the eye stalk on a Dalek, and that's often a crap shoot. If it works, you still get:

"VISION IMPAIRED! I CAN NOT SEE!
VISION IMPAIRED! I CAN NOT SEE!"

And the last time that worked, they still killed Captain Jack for the first, and last, time.

Plus, take into account that Vice's ship is also in the midst of a Time Dam, where time is slowed down considerably, like the flow of water through the Hoover Dam. Even if the Time Shield / Time Dam were to let one of the lasers through, what if there were a secondary shield underneath that Quantum Barrier that was modulating at Femtosecond frequencies? Or the Time Shield itself for that matter, since that would be the frequency on the other end of the Time Dam.

It could take care of lasers like they were nothing, whether it be 100, 1,000, 1 Septillion, you get the idea.

01.11.2011 - 15:22 | Lepton

Well if we're talking about things that defy physics, if light speed was really different in his frame of reference then he could just, like, get someone to go hold a mirror in front of the ship to reflect the beams. Or hell, he wouldn't even need to do that, because the energy deposition would be severely reduced anyway since a femtosecond in our frame of reference is much longer in his. So nevermind; a laser wouldn't work anyway.

Man... why are we even talking about this? Obviously he's going to be protecting the ship using SCIENCE, which no Earthly technology can hope to match.

01.11.2011 - 16:10 | OtakuMan28 - Say it with me now...

"OF COURSE! DON'T YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT SCIENCE?!"

(I'm surprised he hasn't responded to everyone talking about the whole Time Shield thing with that.)

01.11.2011 - 15:49 | Inquizitor

I had to sit down and think about what Linkara was saying as well. He is right if you think about the shield accelerating everything inside the shield. From there perspective years are passing even though What is considered normal time would be only a few seconds.

As for the Laser reference. Light is not constant through different time references. Light has a set speed. Speed has a time component to it. IT is a set distance traveled in a certain amount of time. Another way to say it is D X T = S. The only way we know to change that reference is by changing the D (distance) part of the variable. T (Time) always remains constant or 1. If I am traveling at D = 4 Then my speed will be 4. Now if T is altered somehow so that I am seen to be traveling at half speed then the equation would look like 4 X .5 = 2. Thus slower.

To think of it another way if I playing a movie in slow motion I would be able to react to what is on the screen far easier or quicker.

01.11.2011 - 16:11 | OtakuMan28

"To think of it another way if I playing a movie in slow motion I would be able to react to what is on the screen far easier or quicker."

Also known as "Viewtiful Joe-sics"

01.11.2011 - 14:29 | OtakuMan28 - A Lesson in Time-O-Nomics

Honestly, sometimes I feel that there needs to be an educational series on time and quantum theory in science fiction so that people get how time has, and usually is, portrayed in science fiction and in real life.

Such courses would include:

TARDISes for Dummies
The Blinovitch Limitation Effect and You (Pre-2005)
How to Construct a Flux Capacitor using Things Around the Home
Why Moving Slow Means You Should Still Get Out Of The Way
An Idiot's Guide to Shifts in the Time Continuum
When Time + Noun actually means something (ex. Time Ram / Time Dam / Time Warp / Doing the Time Vortex)
And...
Time Perception - How being super slow makes things super fast, and being super fast makes things super slow.

I know that fans of TGWTG are super smart, super nerdy, and super geeky, but even the smartest of fans could use a little brush up on their fictional space-time physics.

I wonder what a video series like that would look like? I mean, there's ton of time science explanation in movies and TV, so there wouldn't be a lack of footage.

01.11.2011 - 18:58 | Doates - Stuff

Hey Linkara. I really like your science behind Lord Vyce's ship. The story line is like a really good comic. I got two things to say:

One is that you got Bizarro wrong. It was a Superman/batman clone that was combined. One half Superman and one half batman. The strange thing is, it killed itself before this comic. I don't know if there might be a new one running around, or this comic has continuity issues. And GL and GA couldn't beat him up because he had the strengths of Superman and the knowledge of Batman. Superman and Batman had to beat the clone mentally because the clone was so strong.

Also, you should really watch itsjustsomerandomguy on youtube. He combines Marvel and Dc with action figures that he collects and he adds storyline's that are complex and hilarious.

01.11.2011 - 21:30 | numar - Linkara and Itsjustsomerandomguy

After reading your comment it hit me how awesome a video made by Linkara and Itsjustsomerandomguy would be. Here's hoping.

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