Animenia - Pokemon: The First Movie
Written by Suede Friday, 30 March 2012 21:14
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04.01.2012 - 19:36 | Spacedin
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The dub isn't entirely the one to blame for the... unsensitive portrayal of Italians (or Italy itself, in this rather meta case.)
Hell, just look at the title. "Hetalia" is a combination of "Hetare" (helpless) and "Italia". So yeah, the name of the series is "helpless Italy". Buuut, at the same time, all the other nations are stereotyped to hell and back, so it's not just Italy who gets picked on, it's everyone (including Japan). That, and none of the countries (or their anthropormorphic personnifications, whatever) are stereotyped hatefully, but rather comedically.
Same thing goes for the dub. It stereotypes Italy even more (yes, EVEN MORE) but the other countries get the same treatment as well (including Japan. Again). Now, I really like the dub (slightly more than the original *hides in bunker*), since it takes itself even less (yes, EVEN LESS) seriously, but I'll admit it has a few faults (China's accent and Germany's err-- well, you know, it's during WWII and all that so, yeah. Cue the Nazi jokes. A LOT OF THEM. I never once think I'm scream "Oh my God, I get it, you're a Nazi!" at my laptop's screen, but there you go...).
Wait a minute, good sir/madam/whatever who wrote the original comment... Your argument contains a plot hole (Influenced by Linkara much, Kirkeyressa?)! in the video, it was said that the Japanese were the ones who portrayed Italians stereotypically. But you went and criticized the AMERICAN dub who made the protagonist(did I just call fascist Italy a protagonist? Okay, VILLAIN protagonist, there, that's better. Now only half my soul will go to hell!) even more of a caricature? If anything, you should have criticized the original series to begin with (refer to my argument saying that all countries have their national stereotypes played up for laughs. (Japan Including. Seriously, he has a panic attack after getting hugged...)) or point out that the (American) dub is even more insensitive (though not mean spiritedly so. The series is a lighthearted comedy. Set in WWII. Focusing on the Axis Powers. With a lot of Ho Yay thrown in for good measure. ... Uh... Approach with an open mind?...)
That doesn't mean I'm forcing you to like the dub (or even the original series). You have your opinion, I have mine, I respect that. The English dub was meant to be a gag dub anyway. And besides, it's not like we lose anything with it existing. Think of it as having two abridged series. Of history. Yeah, works for me...
(Phew, that was long. And in defence of Axis Powers Hetalia and it's dub, of all things. Also, is it just me, or do I have a parenthesis fetish?)
OBLIGATORY STEREOTYPICAL CANADIAN ENDING IN 3... 2... 1...
Canada? What aboot him, eh? *goes to play hockey on a polar bear while drinking maple syrup*
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Well done brother.
Oh no another Insano (sweet).
Oh that animation of you guys is awesome.
Take a bow boys.
More crossovers!
I hate to say it but I did see Pokemon The First Movie on the big screen and yet I enjoyed it. Mostly because I went in with a no expectation thought. I was just wanting to relax. Don't ask me how my mind works .................. because I might tell you. :P
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03.30.2012 - 22:41 | Enshidia
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03.31.2012 - 12:15 | DMasterI don't know the exact season count at this point, but there's one movie for each season, and then there were three in between: Mewtwo Returns, which came out during season 4; Raikou: the Legend of Thunder, which was split up in the American dub for the first three episodes of Pokemon Chronicles; and the 10th Anniversary movie, which I dislike so much I refuse to acknowledge it outside of saying it exists. So...yeah, bottom line: n_movie = n_season + 3
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03.31.2012 - 17:42 | Undertaker91
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03.30.2012 - 22:57 | Furrama
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03.30.2012 - 23:03 | rockybalboa211
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03.31.2012 - 00:13 | LikaLaruku
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03.30.2012 - 23:00 | glaurungthegold
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04.25.2012 - 18:56 | ladydiskette
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Great Video.
I was a huge Pokemon fan back during the GBA era. I remember when I was little and my cousin let me play Pokemon Blue on his GameBoy. Loved the show and movies then and today are a guilty pleasure from time to time.
Good luck with Pokemon 2000.
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03.30.2012 - 23:14 | Dr Forrester
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03.30.2012 - 23:16 | TheEpicStickMan
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03.30.2012 - 23:16 | Moon Spirit
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03.30.2012 - 23:18 | The Straightener
Over a decade later and I still can't avoid sniffling during poor little Pikachu's resuscitation attempt. But I hope these come out on a sturdy, dependable basis. I haven't seen very many of the movies (or all that much of the anime beyond the requisite childhood amount, for that matter), since I've mostly stuck to the games, so this'll be a magical journey through undiscovered childhood. Can't wait for the next one.
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03.30.2012 - 23:29 | ManWithGoodTaste
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03.30.2012 - 23:47 | FullmetalNinja25
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03.30.2012 - 23:49 | EpicFish
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03.30.2012 - 23:48 | SuperNerd137YES! The review I have been waiting my whole life for! You guys are awesome. This review made me laugh out loud several times, and satisfied my Super Nerd cravings. Can't wait to see what's in store!
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03.31.2012 - 00:04 | Gundam4ever
This is ironic. I'm actually Test the English of 3DS MMO Pokemon game. It's called Pokemon Grey. It all 3D graphics like in the console games(stadium, Colosseum).
There is also a new optional battle system that allows you to control the Pokemon directly instead of just calling out orders.trolling.
The game is due out in Oct 20013
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03.31.2012 - 00:16 | Gundam4ever
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03.31.2012 - 00:19 | gold120kI caught the suburban knights reference
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03.31.2012 - 02:12 | Eye Carumba
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03.31.2012 - 00:53 | Keiji
Ok, so, I have known this for a while now, BUT...
Pokemon are weak as hell. Even the so called "legendary" ones.
Now, for space I'll only use one extra reference outside this.
Two of the strongest Pokemon in the world hit ash at the same time with a super powerful attack, he gets healed by tears.
Now, in a later movie, I think it was somewhere around six, Ash gets hit straight on by a HYPER BEAM.
As in, one of the strongest attacks in the game. What does he do? Shrugs it off like "hey that's kinda annoying" and tells the guy hey watch where you aim your pokemanz lazor bredt lol, except with actual grammar.
So, basically, the reason this was barbaric is because Pokemon special abilities do no real harm to each other or people, and only do enough to tire each other out, hence why they don't die. Actual punches actually hurt.
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03.31.2012 - 09:40 | Doresh
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03.31.2012 - 22:34 | BloodrealmThe anime isn't the best judge of the destructive force of pokemon. It kind of makes it so they can destroy plenty, except when there is a human in the immediate area.
I think the reason the pokemon are show in pain is because, in the games, if a pokemon can't use any of its moves, it uses Struggle, which also hurts itself, so Mewtwo made them all use struggle, I guess. It is kind of silly when applied here, however. The Black and White games' plots really handle this a lot better.
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05.01.2012 - 02:47 | pinky75910
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04.19.2012 - 21:52 | UchaNekome
Actually the show, including the movies, are kinda crappy and have plotholes GALORE! However the games are wonderfull and there's not a sign of ash ANYWHERE! You can play as a girl and you can see a significant difference in each pokemon's straigth and weaknesses. The show is not a good representaion of pokemon...
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Every five seconds, you guys, 'fangirl squeal'.
AWESOME crossover of my FAVOURITE THING!
I'm so glad you're doing more of these!
But in the beginning, Suede, dude, there are a hundred-fifty-ONE pokemon. You just reviewed a movie with Mew in it, and you forget to count him? C'mon, man, way to be insensitive! (I'm just kidding. Really.
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03.31.2012 - 12:19 | DMasterThough to be fair, Mew itself is plenty insensitive, as can be seen here.
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03.31.2012 - 01:33 | ST
I read a transcript for the Japanese version and it seemed like Team Rocket's memories weren't erased, since Mewtwo didn't know they were there and you don't see them floating in the psychic aura with the others.
That also explains why Ash and the others wake up back at the port, but Team Rocket are still on the island.
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05.01.2012 - 10:17 | ST
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03.31.2012 - 01:40 | Orastella
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03.31.2012 - 01:50 | The_Octopus
This movie looks enjoyably stupid to look back at as an adult. :D Which makes me very sad... why? Because I can not find it for sale on DVD anywhere in Sweden. T~T Looked everywhere - all sold out, and they won't seemingly publish new DVDs with it.
So why don't I try to find it on eBay or overall outside of Sweden, you ask? I want the swedish dub, plain and simple. Why can't I just download it, you ask? I want it on a original DVD. Why? First of all, it makes me feel I am 100% sure I will always have it. Second, I am a huge DVD collector, and it goes against my own princips to download things.
Bottomline is - all I want is a copy of this Pokemon movie on DVD with the swedish dub... but appearantly, that is too much to ask for. v_v
Oh well.... cést la vie. But it's still sad. Especially since I grew up with this movie. It's one of my big childhood memories, back in the days I loved Pokemon. And it just isn't the same if it isn't the swedish dub. God, I'm so sad now...
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05.01.2012 - 07:36 | Vismutti
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03.31.2012 - 01:51 | shadowspider9
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03.31.2012 - 02:01 | Damonashu
Man, I knew about Mewtwo's backstory, but I did not know that Mew was such a troll. I don't know what I approve of more, Mew's trolling, or 4kids' edit. Considering I hate 4kids though, and that moment was hilarious, I think I'll say the former.
I look forward to the next one.
Also, obligatory Pokemon Special/Adventure mention because, well, it's awesome.
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This might be an accidental double post. not Spam. i had to retype it though
Huh... how Ironic... I got into Pokemon the same way as J-W... i was introduced to the cards when i was 8 by my Brother In-Law when he gave me a Suitcase full of old cards... 7 years later, i still love it! my first game was Diamond and pearl and my current favorite Pokemon is Zoroark... but nothing NOTHING will ever match my love for the Jhoto Region and Typhlosion~
Im such a big fan im even writing my own Black and White Fan Fiction (I know im sad) that's very loosely based on the game.
Anyway great review and i have to say i love that three huge fans were the ones to do it... i liked this movie when i was younger but just like the current show... i hate it~ anyway guys great job... cant wait for the other 15... *Evil Laugh*
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03.31.2012 - 12:23 | DMaster"nothing NOTHING will ever match my love for the Jhoto Region and Typhlosion"
Agreed. While I don't know if Typhlosion is my favorite, it is up there, it was my first fully evolved starter from after Generation 1, and I. f***ing. LOVE Johto. Despite all the hate for it in the anime considering it was the first region to drag out for three seasons...I just love it, games, cards, anime, not manga only because I haven't read it yet. Hey, it had the BEST filler, at least give it that!
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03.31.2012 - 02:44 | sho_sho_maru
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03.31.2012 - 02:48 | Athos
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03.31.2012 - 03:48 | Jessica Dufresne
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03.31.2012 - 09:23 | Athos
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03.31.2012 - 12:24 | DMasterFurther making you wonder why Brock of all people hasn't noticed her...
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03.31.2012 - 18:54 | redjirachiThat always baffled me.
Why
If you think Mewtwo is dark, wait until you learn about N's life. You know, for kids!
Mewtwo can't read Giovanni's mind because Giovanni is a Dark type. This is also how he survived, besides being, well, Team Rocket.
Suede, Electric IS effective against Rock.
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I know, right? Not just N, but Black and White as a whole are so much more mature than the plots of the other games, not to mention there's more plot as a whole in them. I really think someone could make a masterpiece adapting it into a T-rated manga or anime... with the actual game characters, not Ash. Black and White really seem to be acknowledging all the passionate fans they have who have enjoyed Pokemon through several generations of the games (My first, of course, was the classic Red version! :3).
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04.02.2012 - 15:53 | TheRolesWePlay
You might wanna check out the Pokemon Adventures manga then. It's significantly darker than any of the other media, and has an interesting story.
(Warning: It has a set continuity so some of the later arcs can get confusing, though they do reset with Protagonists at the start of each new generation.)
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10.01.2012 - 20:58 | NoekOh my God it is so much better remember how they reverse the effect of them becoming stone in that
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03.31.2012 - 02:56 | yamaoI'm looking forward to the less talked about movies mainly 3 & 4, 3 because it was the last one in theaters in the west and the only pokemon movie I owned which left me with some loathing of it, despite finding it visually interesting. And 4 because it's probably my favorite and the last one I saw when it got a dvd release and not just happened to see while flipping through the tv channels 15 minutes in. But very great and I love that it is primarily analysis.
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03.31.2012 - 12:26 | DMaster3 and 4 were both very good. 3 is probably my favorite of the bunch and it's likely on my list of top 100 favorite movies (haven't formally tabulated, just an estimate). The only good movie from the current dub actors (that I've seen) was #9, I'm interested to see that one...as well as the absolutely dull #7. Please guys, recommend to skip that one, it is POINTLESS.
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04.02.2012 - 11:21 | Shadow64
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04.02.2012 - 15:45 | TheRolesWePlay
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04.07.2012 - 00:57 | Cinnamon Scudworth
Guess nop one told Suedesano that the dress code was "fancy gentlemen."
Love the animated part with Boobwario there, lol.
It's a very sciency haircut; he resembles Egon Spengler from Real Ghostbusters, who in turn resembles Daisuke Ido from Gunnm.
"You have NO IDEA where Japanese kids shows can go." That's sounds like an idea for a special if I ever heard one.
On "sensitive portrayal of Italians," that just screams "Funimation dubb of Axis Powers Hetalia."
Pikachu, Mary Sue, Marty Stu, Pika Stu.
Saw his movie a decade ago. it's more hypocritical & contrived than I remember it.