MarzGurl Discusses The Land Before Time VIII

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  • Metaldeth  - Last
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    This unfortunately is the last Land Before Time I've seen. And I don't say unfortunately because I'm sad about that its that its sad that I watched all from 2.
  • whatever42
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    Hey Metaldeth, don't be too sad. I watched all the way from the original to number 11, so you're not quite as bad as me. :)

    I felt similar to you about this movie Marzgurl. I didn't think this one was as bad as a good amount of the previous ones, although, obviously, it doesn't compare to the original. Also, to be fair, I thought that Family song after Spike left wasn't too bad. We've heard far worse on our journey thus far. I also kind of liked how an adult did get involved here, even though he didn't really do much.

    As for the next one, I don't remember liking it very much. The new supporting character annoyed me a whole lot and there was something about it that made me dislike it more than the previous two.

    Despite that, I can say that the next one did have a song I legitimately liked in "Chanson D'ennui," which is basically "The Boring Song." It's honestly not that bad and the kids actually sing pretty well. Be careful though Marzgurl; the next movie also has the "Imaginary Friends" song, which is probably bad but is scarily catchy.

    I'm sure you can make it through the remaining 5 movies. We'll be here in spirit to give you support.
  • TectonicImprov
    Same here. I think I saw the one with the dolphin, but not much of it.
  • SpeedyEric
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    2:22- Wow. Now THERE'S a song that teaches your kids on how to be p!$$ed off if I ever heard one.

    I've seen "Follow That Bird," and I liked that movie since the openning scene unlike these sequels.

    4:36- o_O I feel the same confusion as you do, Marzy.

    The sharptooth/snowball scene looks like it was inspired by the chase scene in "Jack Frost."

    10:09- OMG, the logic in this film is just ...GAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! !!!!!

    Don't worry, MarzGurl. You can make it to the last 5 movies. We'll get through these bastards.
  • pap64
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    Wait...THERE ARE FIVE MOVIES LEFT??? I could have sworn there were only 10 movies in the series...

    MarzGurl you brave, dedicated woman. I commend your dedication towards completing the whole series. :D
  • sonicchica
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    Come on marzgurl! If you were able to make it through ANime Medley you can make it to the last 5 movies!
  • Kimarous
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    This is when I gave up on the series. Besides the fact that it was the film that entertained me the least, I really couldn't gel with the whole "Great Valley freezes over (instantly)" concept. It just feels out of place. Because when you think dinosaurs, you think... snow?
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Well you see a Sharptooth scientist had invented a weather machine in an effort to get the plant eaters out of the protection of the Great Vally. But he was foiled by Rapter, James Rapter. *plays bond riff*
  • Moreno X
    Marzgurl, you are the bravest woman to ever break down the walls of LBT sequels >.
  • Tsumetai
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    Wow. Didn't know MarzGurl was so homophobic >_
  • axlryder
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    More like transphobic. Regardless, that shit is creepy. In cartoon world eyelashes and pink skin are practically equivalent to having boobs.
  • Tsumetai
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    Fine. Transphobic. Either way, her reaction was rather... jarring.
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Actually if you think about it I would say that that would be non-binary gender phobic.
  • pap64
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    She wasn't being homophobic, she was just surprised that the character was a male after the design made it look like he was a she. That happens a lot and it isn't necessarily a trait of homophobia.

    I mean, have you ever met someone who dresses up as a woman and realized that the woman was actually a guy? Pretty normal reaction
  • Vismutti
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    I get being surprized, but exaggeradly going "ew, EW!" saying she needs to BATHE afterwards sure sounds like transphobia to me.

    Excuse me while I go mope in my corner now.
  • rowdycmoore
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    Yeah, does that mean everyone who was freaked out by The Crying Game is homophobic?
  • Tsumetai
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    A rather sad comment on society.

    And in a sense, I have. I have seen a really hot guy only find out it was actually a FTM transsexual. Yet, my reaction to the revelation wasn't "Ew, OMG, I need a shower", it was along the lines of, "Wow, you're a really hot dude; for someone born as a chick."
  • TomQuoVadis
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    Uh, no. And anyways, being homophobic is a medical condition. It's not nice to discriminate against someone who has a medical condition.
  • Morgoth Bauglir  - RE: Tsumetai
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    Didn't know you were so full of shit.
  • Virgil_theBadassPoet  - Five more?!
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    You can do it MarzGurl!! :D We have faith in you!
  • Underdog10
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    Why did some of the characters change colors for part of the movie? At least Cera and Ducky were gray for at least half of it.

    I mean, were they freezing to death from frostbite? Explain movie! Explain!
  • LikaLaruku
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    I love your animated movie series reviews, but I keep remembering that time you reviewed a video game & hope you do that again in the future too.

    Ducky & Sarah still remind me of Sally & Lucy from "Peanuts."

    Really MG, you watch anime; you should be very very accustomed to "dude looks like a lady" by now.
  • Rock Dragon
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    Sarah ? You mean Cera ? :D
  • LikaLaruku
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    At what point does her name flash across the screen? Or are you such a hardcore fan of this series that you actually read the cover boxes?
  • fanime1
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    XD So true...I watch anime too. Including Slayers, which I can't help but mention because of your icon. I LOVE the opening and ending songs!
  • SuperSaiyaMan12
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    Actually, most dinosaurs from the Jurassic Period and beyond are considered warm-blooded animals now.
  • DMaster
    Well, yes...but the issue of "-blooded"ness is a little more complicated than just "warm" or "cold". In any case, the biggest ones - sauropods certainly - wouldn't be properly endothermic by mammalian standards by virtue of size alone. Assuming they even could generate the kind of energy necessary to sustain that bulk (a herd would strip the Great Valley bare in a few days), they'd likely overheat from the constant processing of that much food.
  • secretsheik
    Oh lord and we're not NEARLY done with this crap yet... the sequels... too... many!
  • darthvader2999
    As a matter of fact, these sequels are being ran into the ground like call of duty >_>
  • Rock Dragon
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    Actually, there are many possibilities for dinosaur metabolism types. Maybe they were endothermic - which is actually very likely, especially Theropods, which also includes modern birds. Endotherms of course, need a lot of energy to sustain theirselves so when an animal like apatosaurus is endothermic, it needs a fuckton of food and has to eat almost the whole time it's awake. Then again, larger animals loose heat at a slower rate than small ones thanks to the body-mass ratio.

    They might have been partial endotherms, or maybe cold bloods with parital control of their body temperature trough some means (other than sunbathing) or even had a completely unknown metabolic system.

    It's also possible, and even quite likely considering the range of habitats they lived in, that different types of dinosaurs had evovled different ways to keep themselves warm depending on their environment.
  • Rock Dragon
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    Oh, and just to point out one thing...
    Even if the dinoes in LBT were endothermic, that does not mean that they would survive after a sudden, very drastic change in their climate.
  • DMaster
    Yeesh. So close and still so far. It wouldn't surprise me if another one was announced while you're still doing this. I was negative about you continuing before, if only for the sake of your sanity...but at this stage, no point in stopping now. Good luck to you.
  • EpicFish  - 5 more sequels?!
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    So they haven't bled the series dry by now? Oy vey! Don't worry Marzgurl, I'll be sticking around to see the other five as well.
  • maliw
    Um, MarzGurl... Dinosaurs were warmblooded.
  • Extreme-Madness
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    Not only that dinosaurs were warm-blooded, they were also covered with feathers, even herbivores (not only carnivorous, or theropods), according to the latest scientific findings (published recently in National Geographic), and even in families ceratopidae (horned dinosaurs) in primitive species, psittacosaurus and heterodontosauridae species tianyulong, they both had on their backs stiff, bristly and primitive feathers, which are likely to have on the rest of the body. This could mean that the triceratops, and parasaurolophus (which belongs to a group closely related to heterodontosauidae) hatched covered with feathers, and later it disappears as they continued to grow.
  • Deos
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    Uhm as a gay man, I'm horribly offended at how you reacted upon realizing the pink, slightly effeminate spiketail was a boy.
  • pap64
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    To be perfectly honesty, I didn't think it was THAT homophobic. I too had the same reaction when it was revealed that the dinosaur was a boy. Note that in animation when you design a character you design them according to their gender. So if you give a character long eyelashes and a effeminate color, people will think the character is female.

    Based on this video, for a long time we believed the character was a girl, up until they said it was a boy. The surprise was bigger because we made up our mentality about it.

    It's like when you learned that Samus was female. The design made her look male, so the surprise at the end was shocking.

    Being shocked about someone's gender isn't homophobic, just surprising as some people pull off the opposite gender look very, very well.

    At least, that's how I see it, sorry if I offend
  • fitandhappy
    i don't think it was the surprise so much, but the expression of that surprise as "ergh!".
  • Vismutti
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    Indeed. I don't mind being surprised, but she actually went "EW!" and said she needed to BATHE afterwards. She acted obviously disgusted whether it was for comedic effect or not. I can't quite imagine many things that'd offend a transsexual person more.

    I do think nowadays people are too touchy about what's offensive and all that and I do think it's your own problem if you're offended, most of the time... but I also have to say that I might pass on watching Marzgurl's videos from now on. Not that they're bad, I appreciate her intelligent analyzes, but every now and then she makes me uncomfortable for one reason or another and this one is just too much. It's my opinion and others are free to disagree, but I'm still gonna get my arse outta here. I'm not listening to these kind of comments.

    Oh and don't tell me it was a joke, I KNOW it was a joke. It doesn't change a thing. It is possible to make gay/trans jokes without being offensive and this is NOT how.
  • MarzGurl
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    I can say with great confidence that I did not make the joke with any homophobic background to it. It was purely that it tricked me for about 30 minutes of the movie. I do not take the joke back. I will, however, apologize if it was taken in some way that it wasn't really.

    I can also say with great confidence that one of my best friends is gay, and that I lived with him for two years. I am in no way uncomfortable with the gay/trans community.
  • Vismutti
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    Alright, that's good to hear. I still don't like the joke and I think you went over the line with it, but thanks for replying.
  • Tsumetai
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    And, for the record, I didn't assume you to be literally homophobic. And my smiley was cut from the post (angle bracket tend to mess up). That said, I still assert the intimated claim of my initial post: that you're playing in to the stereotypical societal reaction that gays and/or transsexuals and/or their relationships are really, really gross.
  • Elly
    Oh god! She just used the "I have gay friends" defense to justify her obvious disgust for effeminate males.

    I think I'm going to go climb into the shower with a box full of SOS pads. I don't know if I'll ever feel clean again.
  • The FanFic Critic
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    Well, I don't think your joke was offensive. Keep up the good work!
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Its ok, most people understand your suprize at finding a transvestite in a children's film.
  • Deos
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    On don't worry pap64, I understand perfectly what you mean, and you didn't offend.

    What offended me was the fact she said something along the lines of: 'Eugh now I have to wash myself!', as if its unclean and disgusting.

    Vismutti - exactly my point. Perfect example: Spoony's Phatasmagoria review and Trevor. He makes the jokes, and they're funny based on the character's excessive homosexual tendencies. And they're funny, and in good taste. He never implies its disgusting, just that its silly.

    He pretty much says its fine to be gay simply cause he doesn't do anything different with the gay character than he does with the nymphomaniac or the bald guy or the psycho. All equally made fun of.
  • Zwarrior2
    I don't think the shock is what has people steamed but the reaction that followed the "It's a dude!" line, which I myself did find kind of weird.

    But I think the arguments shouldn't be about homophobia but racism. What does MarzGurl have against peach colored dinosaurs?
  • LikaLaruku
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    It's not even pink, it's Ovaltine Brown. Personally, I was thinking it was more of a pedophobic reaction.
  • Morgoth Bauglir  - re: Deos
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    Because all men that look like women are gay, right? Asshole.
  • The FanFic Critic
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    Yeesh, I think you and that other guy are taking her reaction too seriously! Either that, or you get offended too easily.
  • Churchill
    So Over halfway through the retrospective something dawned on me. Are omnivores allowed in the great valley? Do they have to promise not to eat anyone?

    And what's stopping flying carnivores from flying in and eating some leaf eaters
  • Kaibaman
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    Spike spoke for a second time O_O THE FUCK they can't keep up continuity can they...

    Though to be honest I would like to hear MarzGurl critique on the recent suing on 4Kids by TV Tokyo and another company for shady deceptive business trades on other companies I'm kinda confused on the entire situation,buuuuuuuuut I'm glade they can't distribute Yugioh anymore
  • fanime1
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    REALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!? I think I did hear about this but forgot. Anyway, if they can't distribute Yugioh, then how come they are still showing it?
  • Shinigami
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    Based of fact that they made so many of these I can only assume that these sold least well enough for them to keep making these.
  • Chochip
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    So..... They don't fight Ultimecia?
  • SamhainTheDark
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    Five more movies? Good God, these morons really know how to beat a dead horse!
  • alexthed
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    So the ice age didn't kill the dinosaurs, whoda thunk Mr. Freeze was wrong?
  • Crunchy_Frog  - warmbloodedness
    First of all, dinosaurs were not reptiles. Certain dinosaurs, especially the two-legged runners among the ornithiscian and saurischian dinosaurs, were almost certainly warm-blooded (endothermic) by today's state of knowledge. The most important clue is the size of the blood vessels in the growning bones (or more precisely the structures they left in the fossilied bones if they want to be mitpicky), especially in dinosaur fossils we found of baby dinosaurs. We can also deduce that young dinosaurs must have grown very fast and the speed of development only leveled off later in life.

    Also, CT scans taken of fossilised hearts inside the chest cavity have revealed that dinosaur hearts resembled bird or mammal hearts in that they had four chambers and a single large aorta, which allows for good oxygenation of the blood and a high metabolic activity.

    Dinosaur fossils from China have provided a new wealth of proof that feathers existed long before flight, and that many ground-living dinosaurs were covered in feathers like today's birds are, and feathers provide isolation and help with thermoregulation of the body. They also had air sacs extending from the lungs into the bones and internal body cavities, like birds do, and all in all resembled birds far more than reptiles.

    Organisms can generally be divided into two types of thermoregulators, endotherms and ectotherms. Endotherms create most of their heat via metabolic processes, and are colloquially referred to as warm-blooded. Ectotherms temperature comes mostly from the environment. (Some predatory fish can switch on metabolic processes to warm up their muscles independently of water temp.)

    The large, four-legged dinosaurs may not have needed metabolic thermoregulation, however, because their giant bodies would have taken a long time to cool out, long enough to last them through the night so that they could warm up in the next again the next morning. Therefore the very large dinosaurs migt have gotten along without warm-bloodedness, which in contrast to cold-bloodedness uses up a lot more metabolic energy and means you starve faster. For the same body weight, poikilotherms (animals whose internal temperature varies considerably over time) need half to 1/10th of the energy of homeotherms (animals who strive to keep their internal temperature constant).

    Keep in mind that "cold-bloodednes" does not automatically mean the body actually being cold, but merely the body taking on the temperature of the surrounding environment, called thermoconforming.

    Also, some dinosaurs lived in climates where its snowed during the winter, with considerable seasonal temperature changes (to judge by fossilised plants), and they seem to have survived just fine.
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Thank you fr saying it first! More people need to research what they are saying before opening their mouths.
  • Crunchy_Frog
    Hot springs... that freeze over with thick ice... whah? Does not compute.

    Why is the water red? I hope it's a poisonous algae bloom.
  • Angelic Plague
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    As ChaosD1 would say:

    "HOT SPRINGS. DON'T. WORK THAT WAY!!!"
  • Fyrewyre
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    "The Great Valley skipped Autumn and went directly to Winter"

    Huh, must be in Minnesota.

    *Has lost count of all the times this has happened here*
  • TomQuoVadis
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    That last winter was brutal, wasn't it? Man, even in the south end of Minnesota we got hammered with snow.
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Incorrect, they were in the lands of Nador. From there winter changed into spring, spring changed into summer, summer changed back into winter, and winter gave spring and summer a miss and went straight on into autumn.

    See?
  • MPSai
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    Actually Sarah teaching Ducky to be a bitch COULD be funny, but why songs? Why? The first movie didn't need any damn songs.

    Also yeah this movie lost me at the derpy significant other.

    Also was there even such a thing as winter in that age? At least winter with snow? "The Big Freeze" just makes me think the Ice Age is coming and they all die.
  • Forlong
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    Many scientist assume that all, if not most, dinosaurs could regulate their body heat. Enough dinosaurs have been found with that ability to make it logical to assume that most could. However, it was likely limited and couldn't protect against the freeze of winter. More likely they would migrate to warmer climates when it started getting colder.
  • yourworstnightmare
    Dinosaurs were warm blooded.

    Still stupid movie. Dinosaurs would not do well in snow, since they are species adapted to a tropical climate.
  • runedragon1985
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    Marzgurl you poor thing! Turn back while you still can!
  • KRTellez
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    Nah! Why stop now? It's only five left. It's not like they are going to realese anymore.
    Besides it may not get any worse.
  • Lord of Lochaber
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    Actually they are. Release number XIII that is. That is the disaster that the Myan clander has listed as the end of the world on 12-21-2012.
  • Dragon_Nexus
    God, I almost thought you were serious, then I read the rest of your post.

    I was about to face-window.
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