Translation Terrors of 4Kids - Part Two

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  • Fanofyou
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    Why 4kids why? T_T
  • David2
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    4money maybe?
  • Nonpython  - Awesome as always.
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    YAY for quick updates! =D
    Though, if I see another Carl's Jr. commercial, I will kill [i]several[/i] people. Stupid non-georelevant ads....
  • SpecterM91
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    I've got a few issues with this one. First of all, at least F-Zero's 4Kids theme sounded like something from F-Zero. When I think F-Zero, I think techno, metal, something fast paced like Shotgun Kiss or the Mute City theme. I don't think bubbly J-pop, that isn't how F-Zero works. Both themes are kind of terrible in that situation.

    [url=http:// www.youtube.com/watch? v=gkWi6gKryBE]That's an F-Zero song right there.[/url]

    The Kirby theme is garbage, too, but your main complaint was the title being put on repeat, and that's a valid criticism. But I'm fairly certain I heard the title a handful of times in the Japanese version, too. This is another case where they should've just plucked music from the game for both version.

    You made a point about openings giving the gist of a story. But you turn around and use the Magical Do Re Mi theme as an example, saying it told the story well enough. How are we supposed to know if it told the story well? I doubt most of us speak Japanese, or we wouldn't be complaining about shows being butchered for English releases.

    Most importantly, though... Don't you think this is a little dramatic? 4Kids does much worse, and I'm looking forward to the next videos to see you go into it, so why get so hung up on thirty seconds at the beginning of the show? Not hatin', just offering criticism. Can't wait for the next reviews.
  • Karutomaru
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    Well Marzgurl, being a fan of 4Kids, I feel it's my duty to oppose your videos. I have a lot to say, but let's just take this one topic at a time. :talkbiz:
    4Kids has an extremely talented music studio. Sure, there are a few openings I don't like, such as Sonic X and Magical Doremi, but for the most part they make catchy and high quality tunes that always depict the mood of what they're showing. :music: Be it TMNT, Yu-Gi-Oh, or One Piece (Kind of. I see something in it that reminds me of the show.) I thought you would mention the opening to Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, considering that they actually held a vote for what that one would be. I know I consider the English version of Viewtiful Joe to be perfect and I would never want 4Kids to lay a finger on it, but if they were to make an original American opening for it, I would like to see how that would turn out.
    Also, if you're going to keep promoting rage against 4Kids, try to consider what was required in the Viewtiful Joe anime. They edited as little as they could when they aired it on Kids WB, but they still needed to change a few names and edit a few minor scenes for time restraints. Speaking of which, you could have used Viewtiful Joe as a way of getting around 4Kids' excuse. They had to change the opening for time restraints? Well Viewtiful Joe was able to use a shortened version of the original opening.

    And why does everyone seem to target 4Kids specifically? Other companies have changed anime just as much or more than them. Hey everybody! Power Rangers is a completely edited American version of a Japanese show that they'll never release here! Let us commence with raaaaaaaaage! :flame: (Sarcasm)
  • Kari
    Why is it ever necessary to change a character's name? That's one of the tendencies of the company I just don't get. Kids are flexible and besides, have to learn new words all the time. If unusual sounding names were really going to throw kids for a loop, then the various creature names like Pikachu would do the same, and they'd have to call him "electric squirrel thing".
  • Rurik
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    I don't usually have an issue with changing names in most situations. It can make the show easier for kids to relate to if the characters have names they can actually pronounce and sound like ones they'd come across in real life. The changes to their names in the old Digimon Adventure dub were pretty good if you ask me, most of them were really just Americanised versions of their original names. About the only time it really bugs me is when a name is changed that was originally English to begin with, such as Rockman becoming Megaman, while leaving the remaining two thirds of the joke, Doctor Light and Roll, completely intact.

    That said, I really hope you plan to cover Ultimate Muscle at some point in this series, you've shown footage twice now, so I'm hoping that means you will. Why? Because it's frankly just about the only thing 4Kids has ever managed to do right. They didn't even edit out the countless fart jokes, which is more than I can say for the Monster Rancher dub.
  • Asuka Soryu
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    Pronouncing the names isn't hard. I could understand spelling, but kids can easily learn to repeat the Japanese names.

    I knew a kid who could sing the entire theme of Inuyasha. At the early development of language in the human mind, we learn by hearing and thus repeating. Since we don't have our language fully dug in at the time, it's easier to pick up foreign words right off the bat.
  • Rurik
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    True enough, however my point still stands. A normal sounding name is easier to relate to than one that isn't. Just like a character obsessed with pizza is easier for an average American child to relate to than a character obsessed with okonomiyaki. It would be unreasonable to think most American kids would know what that was, most American adults would even have to look it up. Heck, I wouldn't even know about it if I hadn't watched Ranma.

    It's not just a matter of the children being able to pronounce it though, but also the voice actors. If the actor can't properly pronounce Ryusei, then any possible educational benefit that the child might have gotten will be lost. Plus you have to deal with the sort of people who get mad because of some minor error in pronunciation. Of course these are also the sort prone to getting mad just because you change Yomato to Matt, so it's a lose lose situation for them.

    Again, I don't much care about either, unless it's something really stupid like the previously mentioned Rock/Mega, or the way 4Kids mistranslated Zoro to Zolo, which completely misses the point of his name. It's a really petty and pointless thing to be mad over, there are a LOT worse things that can happen to a dub, many of which are frequently committed by 4Kids as we'll no doubt see in this series.
  • Kari
    There are certainly worse things that can go wrong in a dub. I'm not arguing that the name thing is a complete tragedy, just that it's pointless. Kids are really NOT all that thrown by the unfamiliar. At a young enough age there is damn little that IS familiar. It's all new, so why try to limit their exposure? Besides, the very premise of most of the shows will be unfamiliar. If a kid can roll with the idea of summoning a monster out of a playing card or a red and white ball, the weird name of the guy doing it isn't going to upset them.

    As for the pronunciation, yes, a lot of anime contains mispronounced names in the dubs. Usually it seems to involve putting the emphasis on the wrong syllable. It seems like that would be easy enough to fix, but if it isn't, then hey, at least that's an honest difficulty and not a dub company thinking their audience is a bunch of idiots.
  • Rurik
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    By the same merit though, why [i]not[/i] Americanise a name for the dub? Renaming Jonuichi to Joey makes sense, even if the average American knew someone named Jonuichi they'd probably end up calling them Joe or Joey anyway just because it's shorter, easier to spell, and easier to say.

    Now, I can understand if the show is set in a clearly defined Japanese setting where it would make more sense to keep the Japanese names, but a show like Yu-Gi-Oh! the exact setting is never made all that clear. Most of the characters don't really look Asian, of course neither do most anime characters, so if it makes it easier for the actors to say their lines by giving them names they can pronounce go for it.

    Other shows, like Ultimate Muscle, it actually improves things, a lot of the names that were changed for that show were changed to parodies of actual wrestlers, Kevin Mask, Bone Cold, etc. which made the names fit better with the basic premise of the show, intergalactic professional wrestlers.
  • LadyEpic
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    Its true
    I watched DBZ you had japanese names and people named after foods, freezers, and underwear.....I think I connected to the characters JUST fine.

    Same with Yu Yu Hakusho and Rurouni Kenshin. There is nothing wrong with leaving the names as they are.

    We kids aren't some mentally retarded people that we'll be confused by a "non-american" name or whatever the crap you want to say.
    Because honestly....alot of us DID know kids with "non-american90stypical" names....seriously....Ame rica is a fusion of bajillions of cultures...try to keep kids from learning another...is plain moronic.
  • PLA
    Then call it veggie pancake. : p
    It really is worst when they miss the joke, though.
  • Mavrickindigo  - a response
    its necessary to change a name sometime because "kaawatawashinobashinashi -sama!" doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well as "bob"
  • Lotus Prince  - re:
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    [quote=Karutomaru]And why does everyone seem to target 4Kids specifically?[/quote]

    Gee, I don't know, maybe because they butcher openings, butcher characters, butcher entire plotlines, and treat its audience like kindergarten children who can't handle any kind of adult-themed anything, ever?

    Hey, kids, remember that time the Marines in One Piece used water pistols, and Helmeppo's gun had a giant hammer at the end? No? Then perhaps you remember how Nami's foster mother isn't dead, but just trapped in a dungeon somewhere?

    Defending 4Kids in general is one thing, but you'd better have some DAMN good reasons for your defense, when 4Kids takes a very adult-themed show like One Piece, and tries to market it toward infants.
  • ByrdMan  - The Why 4kids?
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    Even though 4kids is shit. its made for american children
    which 96% of the ages 5-8/9 love 4kids if they saw it flawlessly translate the shows at least 100 lawsuits would go their way and kids would cry, so they'd rather dumb down children then lose money to lawyers or parents.
    They "Americanized" to the levels only a retard forever blonde mental person would enjoy and kids like "pirates"
    "monsters cards" and "deformed cute rat-rabbits" but if they saw it's flawlessly translate to english child would love 4kids and never stop but parents are overprotective so thats wy 4kids is bad parents :cool:
  • Gliblord
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    Quoted for truth.

    4Kids may have butchered plots, but the fauly ultimately lies with retarded moms who get the fucking vapors if a character happens to smoke without immediately denouncing smoking, or if mortal danger comes to make a show, you know, at all interesting.
  • Squeejee
    The real problem is that if 4Kids manned up and marketed the shows towards kids with the occasional "adult" (I've read One Piece, and if you consider that adult your definition is very different from mine) theme left intact all that would happen is a fringe group of parents would go batshit insane and try (and fail) to get the shows pulled.

    You know what that means? FREE MARKETING! Kids WANT to see things their parents disapprove of, or at least the things other kids' parents disapprove of. It makes them feel like they're older and mature and that they're sticking it to the man. I've been watching South Park since I was 10, and I assure you it was only because my parents didn't want me to.

    And then the ratings for the shows go up and the advertisers have to pay more for the time slot and the network gets more money and 4Kids isn't facing financial ruin. Boom.
  • Qarx
    Actually, they censored out "Marines" with "Navy". THAT... I can't begin to understand.
  • argella1300
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    Aren't the Marines and the Navy essentially the SAME THING? (In real life I mean?) Why would they feel the need to censor that?
  • kungfujones
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    4kids and there music, can suck my left nut. There is my honesty, fuck wad
  • MegaZ900
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    I don't remember MarzGurl ever mentioning that ALL 4Kids opening stunk, nor do I remember her saying anything about the talent of the music studio. Really, this video did more comparisons than it did rants.

    Also, 4Kids is known for [u]excessive[/u] edits. I don't remember her saying that 4Kids is the only company who edits anime. We all know that Japanese culture is different from ours, so edits are required in order to take out things that are supposed to be inappropriate for children (in America, at least). Which is the more [u]reasonable[/u] edit: a panty shot in a kid's show, or a character's color change (notably, black to white) in a kid's show?

    As for the Power Rangers thing... it's not even an anime... and at least its opening was kick-butt... XD
  • TheBoyWithTheTopHat
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    I wouldn't deny they have musical talent - in fact I find it's their only talent. However, music is not enough to repay the fans for butchering shows which would otherwise be viewed as good anime. Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon, in particular, have suffered a very bad reputation because of 4Kids.

    We target 4Kids specifically because it's the most prominent editor in the Anime World, and it is often because of this that they create major plot holes that make no sense.
  • stika  - re:
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    [quote=SpecterM91]I've got a few issues with this one. First of all, at least F-Zero's 4Kids theme sounded like something from F-Zero. When I think F-Zero, I think techno, metal, something fast paced like Shotgun Kiss or the Mute City theme. I don't think bubbly J-pop, that isn't how F-Zero works. Both themes are kind of terrible in that situation.
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    I agree, I didn't particularly enjoyed either intro. But i'd take the US intro (and this is the first time I've heard either of them).

    Like I said, I didn't particularly liked either, but the US intro actually sounded like a theme from the games. The Japanese song was just out of place


    I'd get why you'r prefer the Japanese version if you like J-Pop, but how popular is J-pop outsided Japan in the first place? I can't really blame them for changing the theme
  • mr_rubino
    Simple: Pop is forgettable saccharine nonsense full of cliches and troubling implications, rubber-stamped by heartless corporations who seemingly release the same song with some words changed and a new disposable voice singing it every few months.
    J-pop is A :nuu: R :nuu: T!! :gah:
  • Hichcoot
    Garbage. . . J-pop is garbage!



    You know other thing that I notice that piss me off... when people say ´´ Real anime fans hate this`` or ´´real anime fans love this`` like she did in this video... way to sound pretentious, like your fandom for anime is better if you hate this thing...
  • The Goth
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    Garbage? It's definitely not garbage. If you want garbage, you've got Ke$ha, brokeNCYDE, 3OH!3, Lil' Jon, and many others that have just about no redeeming qualities. J-Pop has good and it has bad, but just because you don't like something doesn't make it garbage.
  • Mr. Awsome
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    I feel a little ill now. Fuck you 4Kids :flame:
  • pap64
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    Here's something I wish MarzGurl would have addressed: I heard that when anime companies license new shows they also have to separately license the music as well, meaning that they have to pay extra to get the songs and the musical score, hence why often they would create their own songs for cheap. Is this true? It would explain why 4kids made their own songs.

    Anyways, I confess that I think some of these songs aren't that bad. For example, I prefer the 4kids Pokemon theme over the original Japanese. Call it nostalgia, but it sums up the world of Pokemon pretty well and the melody is much better.

    The first Yu-Gi-Oh theme, you move, is also very, very catchy and dramatic, once again fitting for the series. I personally enjoy both versions of the Kirby song. I like how the Japanese has a very bouncy and happy feel to it, while the American version is very jazzy and catchy.

    Shaman King had a nice theme song, but I never heard the original so I can't compare. The Japanese F-Zero theme is definitely better, but that's because I prefer J-Rock over bland techno :snicker: .

    One Piece was definitely the worst song of them all, simply because it sounded like a bad imitation of a rap song. It definitely was repetitive and even insulting to the audience. I mean, I can just imagine the execs and the creative theme going "Hey...kids like hip-hop, right? Well, let's do a rap intro for the cool kids!".

    But overall, while I tend to agree with MarzGurl a lot of the time, I feel as if her argument here is "Japan is better". Not all of the songs in this video are bad.

    Despite this, however, the censoring episode should be great to watch.
  • mr_rubino
    Reminded me a lot of the rapping theme for Robin Hood Men in Tights.
    I hope they weren't going for that.
  • LactheWatcher
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    Now in all fairness, 4Kids has had not only misses in there themes, they have actually had some hits (at least I think so). I actually like Sonic X's Theme and Pokemon's themes got really awesome once David Rolfe started writing and composing the themes.
  • NCscritic
    yeah, I really like the Sonic X English theme too. Now, the actual CONTENT of the 4Kids Sonic X, good God was that a massacre!
  • Doctrinius
    I can't believe you're complaining about the Pokemon intro; it's amazing, and outshines the Japanese by far. Just my opinion, of course, but damn, it kicks ass.

    Other than that, though, seems like you're pretty much on the money.
  • Doublehelix_ca  - One Piece + 4Kids
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    MarzGurl, MarzGurl, MarzGurl, why didn't you mention the fact that 4Kids had actually done a translated version of the original Japanese opening and had released it as a promo.I feel that is the real reason the 4Kids opening is hated, that they had something GREAT but instead chose Mediocrity (and horrible).

    On a side note, there is only ONE anime I feel that they did well with ... Ultimate Muscle. If you have a different opinion, please reply.
  • whatever42
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    I've never seen their Ultimate Muscle, so I can't really agree or disagree with you. However, of the anime I've seen, I can't think of one that 4Kids did right.

    As for their openings, they occasionally did one okay. I thought the opening to Shaman King wasn't so bad, the opening to Pokemon has always been okay, and they did Magical DoReMi alright I suppose.

    However, that does not make up for the things they have done wrong. I always hated their Kirby opening and seeing it every time I tried to watch the show made me against it. The Sonic X opening wasn't very good either. That's not even getting into the absolute utter garbage and crap the 4Kids One Piece opening is. I'm just amazed how someone could go from "We Are" to that. It makes me so mad. :angry:

    Anyway, I'm just waiting for when you really get into what they did to One Piece. It's always good to hear more people say how they ripped out the soul of the show.
  • karkashan
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    Oh man, I loved watching Ultimate Muscle.

    That and Fighting Fudon (it's the food with attitude!) XD
  • helix  - re:
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    [quote=Karutomaru]Well Marzgurl, being a fan of 4Kids, I feel it's my duty to oppose your videos. I have a lot to say, but let's just take this one topic at a time. :talkbiz:
    4Kids has an extremely talented music studio. Sure, there are a few openings I don't like, such as Sonic X and Magical Doremi, but for the most part they make catchy and high quality tunes that always depict the mood of what they're showing. :music: Be it TMNT, Yu-Gi-Oh, or One Piece (Kind of. I see something in it that reminds me of the show.) I thought you would mention the opening to Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, considering that they actually held a vote for what that one would be. I know I consider the English version of Viewtiful Joe to be perfect and I would never want 4Kids to lay a finger on it, but if they were to make an original American opening for it, I would like to see how that would turn out.
    Also, if you're going to keep promoting rage against 4Kids, try to consider what was required in the Viewtiful Joe anime. They edited as little as they could when they aired it on Kids WB, but they still needed to change a few names and edit a few minor scenes for time restraints. Speaking of which, you could have used Viewtiful Joe as a way of getting around 4Kids' excuse. They had to change the opening for time restraints? Well Viewtiful Joe was able to use a shortened version of the original opening.

    And why does everyone seem to target 4Kids specifically? Other companies have changed anime just as much or more than them. Hey everybody! Power Rangers is a completely edited American version of a Japanese show that they'll never release here! Let us commence with raaaaaaaaage! :flame: (Sarcasm)[/quote]

    Well actually power rangers has a completely different story than the original super sentai its taken from. In fact sometimes they have original rangers and orginal footage for fights.
    And I agree 4kids music isn't really that bad and I don't really mind them.
  • Shinigami305  - re:
    What you are saying may be true as far as catchiness goes, but that's where they end in value. Marzgirl is targeting not only the fall flat lyrics, but their value in storytelling. Me I like the One Piece intro by 4kids but if I were to take a moment and look at the difference of the lyrics they are miles apart. Also the consistent feature in anime openings is that they have a certain poetry and elegance to them: Mermaid Forest, D. Grayman, Basilisk, etc... they are beautiful songs that make you want to stop and listen. While these may be shows for older audiences it doesn't change the point Marzgirl is trying to make is if it's not broke don't fix it.
  • HarryCane
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    4kids, I can safely say there the reason I pefer subs. Fan sub or Official sub I dont mind. Just damn 4kids.

    Thats why I like YuGiOh abriged. They follow the Original Japanese language aswell as the 4Kids translation. And show and make fun off the translation and how 4kids butchered the series, more then their Abridged spoof has XD

    o_O Sharman king original japanese intro is cool. wait... No, NO! You got the damn English theme in my head! Again...

    And I never liked One Peice because we got the 4Kids verson here in the UK. And I can blame the intro for putting me off the series!

    Great rant about 4kids. 5/5 I liked it XB
  • princeshadow
    You know, all I hear whenever I look at any of your videos is "Bitch, bitch, bitch, moan, moan, moan"

    How about we just call you a Waaambulence already...
  • Thatteenwithglasses
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    Dude, Marzgurl make informative videos and she usually shares the general opinion. So what if she complains, most of us are thinking it, she just says it openly.

    If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. You don't want to start a flame war here.
  • Lotus Prince  - re:
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    [quote=princeshadow]You know, all I hear whenever I look at any of your videos is "Bitch, bitch, bitch, moan, moan, moan"

    How about we just call you a Waaambulence already...[/quote]

    Is her complaining unjustified? No? Then be a dear and shut the hell up until you have something productive to say. Don't like Marzgurl's videos? Then do us all a favor and don't watch them so we don't have to hear your whining. Unlike 4Kids' shows, Marzgurl's videos are directed toward a mature audience.
  • DreamPhase
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    Princeshadow, I couldn't agree more. Then again, I'm not too sure what you were expecting from a fucking weebo.

    ENGLISH ONE PIECE THEME FTW!

    Dreamin', don't give it up Luffy.
    Dreamin', don't give it up Zolo.
    Dreamin', don't give it up Nami!
    Dreamin', don't gi-give it up give it up give it up give it up give it-no!
  • Asuka Soryu
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    Wow, you can't even spell "weaboo" right. I think the only thing stupid here, would be to actually listen to a word you say as if it were coming from the mouth of a mature, intelligent human being. Wich it isn't.
  • DreamPhase
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    Wow, you can't even spell "which" right - a REAL word in English, not some bullshit Asian word made up on the internet. I think the only thing stupid here would be to actually listen to a word you say, as you obviously don't have the mental capacity to respect the opinions of those who aren't weebos (I shall spell it as I wish) such as yourself.

    Checkmate.
  • Sandie Sandwicheadman
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    [color=red]It's Weeaboo, guys. Ten seconds on Google.

    Also, I like the American one piece opening, as the Pokemon and Kirby ones. The rest I'm mostly indifferent on. I strongly dislike J-pop, and think the only Jap Cartoons with great songs are FLCL, Cowboy Bebop, and Hellsing, which all had rock or jazz themes.[/color]
  • Phred
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    ...did you just say "Jap Cartoons".

    Find a stick, and go fuck yourself.
  • Bisected8
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    Ugh, I quite like the English Pokemon theme (although that might be nostalgia).

    One Piece's is just painful though. Do kids these days really put up with that crap? o_O
  • Sylveria
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    I say this not being a fan of One Piece in any incarnation of it (not that I don't like it.. I just never watched it) but I would take the 4kids intro over the original one.

    Yes its a stupid abomination of a rap song.. but at least it's something different and, whether you want to admit it or not, it's kinda catchy.

    Maybe it's cause I can't speak the language, but the Japanese one, as far as the music and tone of the lyrics, sounded painfully generic as far as Japanese intros go.
  • Lotus Prince  - re:
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    [quote=Sylveria]I say this not being a fan of One Piece in any incarnation of it (not that I don't like it.. I just never watched it) but I would take the 4kids intro over the original one.

    Yes its a stupid abomination of a rap song.. but at least it's something different and, whether you want to admit it or not, it's kinda catchy.

    Maybe it's cause I can't speak the language, but the Japanese one, as far as the music and tone of the lyrics, sounded painfully generic as far as Japanese intros go.[/quote]

    If you don't like the original opening, that's okay; One Piece has more than ten openings at this point. Surely you'll find at least one of them that you like. :P

    I particularly enjoy "Believe," the second opening.
  • Lodevijk
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    Have you seen LittleKuriboh's take on One Piece? He made the series so much cooler. "Don't give it up - Sasuke! Don't give it up - Sakura!".
  • JiCi
    Ugh... to quote a famous Fall Out Boy song: "Thanks for the memories"...

    Pokémon was probably the anime adaptation that was the closest to the original. They kept the story, the in-game references and even the [b]music[/b]. That's right, most of the music in this adaptation is all taken from the japanese version, which in terms is taken from the game.

    But when 4Kids got to shows like Kirby, Sonic X and F-Zero, they didn't went all the way for the references. For example, F-Zero has the music for the various games, but not the adaptation. Sonic X even had "Live and Learn", Sonic Adventure 2's theme, in one episode in japanese... but not in the adaptation. Seriously, you've done for one video game show, but not for the rest ???

    4Kids's One Piece pretty much killed most of the anime market in North America... nice going 4Kids...

    The company is pretty dead from what I've seen. Pokémon got bought by "The Pokémon Company", which is an affiliate of Nintendo, and also explained the change of actors, Peter Laird sold the rights of TMNT to Nickelodeon and FUNimation salvaged One Piece, Sonic X and Shaman King; 4Kids can pretty much only count on Yu-Gi-Oh! and Chaotic.

    4Kids should close, no question asked...
  • Sakarii
    Actually... I do think that in regards to Pokemon, 4kids only kept most of the music in the beginning. Definitely after Kantou 4kids had already stopped using the Japanese music and used their own most of the time.

    The Pokemon Company keeps more of the music than 4kids by the time they lost the rights.

    At least, according to Dogasu's Backpack.
  • Kaiju-Z
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    Episode re-edits, huh? Say, are you gonna talk about what was done to Mr. Popo for 4kids? He was turned blue, ya know.
  • SwordmasterKratos
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    there is no blue Mr. Popo its a lie! Its a lie! :psychotic: *watches youtube clip* DAMNIT 4KIDS! :flame:
  • Fluffyman
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    The "One Piece" rap is certainly something of horror.
  • LordNathaniel
    I remember watching One Piece back when I was younger, lord knows how long ago that was.... I used to think the opening was alright.... Oh god how wrong I was.... I'm so sorry. T_T
  • Hotaru-oz
    4Kids is the devil, thank god they never got the license for Pretty Cure.
  • VampireApple
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    Okay, I know I'm going to be totally opening myself up for a blasting here. I will preface it with the fact that I [i]hated [/i]the 4kids One Piece intro. Put me off the anime/manga for years. It wasn't until this summer that I started reading it because there was nothing else. It wasn't until after Sanji joined that I was able to get that damn song out of my head and enjoy what I was reading. Then later I picked up the anime and fell in love with the Japanese version.

    Anyways, I found an AMV with the 4kids opening, and I have to admit, they did a good job with it.

    As I go look for the link to post it here, Youtube has said that the adobe flash plug in has broken. So I'll post the link here anyways.

    http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=eXcK1SDjrI0

    The title is One Piece tribute and the person who made it is effdl. They also have another cool One Piece video called One Piece - How to Save a Life - Nakama Tribute.

    Yeah... So check those out.

    Anyways, I loved the video MarzGurl. And I agree about the Shaman King opening, and the endings for all of them. Sometimes I even like endings better then openings.
  • DVAnt
    4Kids has certainly messed up some good theme songs in it's time, but modern anime series aren't necessarily all that much better in their native land, what with many of the popular series' OPs and EDs being little more than advertisement for whichever artists Sony P&G wants to push at a particular moment.
  • PLA
    I had no idea the 4kids One Piece opening was so bad. I had heard it was different, but I thought it would be more like the german version. http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=BuxIJNfp288

    All about finding the treasure.
  • takineko
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    The worst translation from Japanese to English dub was Card Captor Sakura into Card Captors. BY FAR!
  • excelladon
    Yeah but that was nelvana's take.
  • PhoenixRangerFeathermanR  - i grew up on this shit
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    i don't care about intros every much. i don't think 4kids intros are bad cause i am use to them. to be honest i hate all three version of one piece first intro it gets better later for me. in my mind your overreacting a little to much. but if that's whats you think feel free to feel that way. although i would love it if 4kids actually release uncut versions of they show =_= . also if i remember right aren't they people who want 4kids to do the voices the Pokemon anime again. i don't know or care. i'll keep watching though
  • FunkyM
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    Awesome Epic Trailer intro vs Bog-standard J-rock Song? Marzy, you know I love ya, but on Yu-gi-oh, YA DUN GOOFED.

    And I must confess, that a lot of the gripes against these intros is that they're "Too American". At least that's what I hear.

    I'm not defending it, I remember a parody advert featuring the Wombles, Furry Stop-motion sockpuppets of London's Wimbledon Common, being relocated to New York's Central Park, and how bad of an Idea that was...

    I just think you've overplayed things a little with this video. But hey, that's my opinion. Thanks for the space to air my view. I go! =)
  • NatluvsAnime
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    Thank you for this! I don't know how many years I have been ranting to my friends (Anime fans and not) about all of these problems, so thanks for listing them all out. God damn 4kids :flame:
  • hobojebus
    I tried watching the 4kids onepeice once, never have i felt so repulsed by an anime, friends have tried to get me to watch the original but i just cant.
  • NatluvsAnime
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    Do it, it is a really awesome show NOTHING like the original. Ahh, Japanese One Piece :love:
  • DRjkl924
    Haha The One Piece Rap is a big inside joke within my group of friends. We all know the lyrics and whenever we see anything One Piece related we just break into it. But yeah that theme is BAD. But I can't help but whistle "Yiyo YI YO" to myself sometimes.....ughhh it will never leave...it's like Ducktales...
  • kaymazing
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    ok well here's my opinion, Dinosaur King and Pokemon are both solid openings because there cheesy in a good way, especially pokemon with its whole epicness going for it. Now I agree with you with most other examples except one
    Sonic X is a cool song! if I had that on my ipod I would totally rock out!
    Thats the only problem I had with your video, is that you failed to mention everything is someones own personal preference.
  • jbondsr  - 4Kids: A victim of the times?
    I agree that 4Kids sucks big time.
    I also feel that they were a victim of the times.
    We were at a point where we had much more exposure and access to the original Japanese versions of shows.
    I bet a lot of us felt that shows like Power Rangers were awesome at the time, but if they were just being released (like this year), we'd be like "WTF?!!"
    I think that if 4Kids was around in the same period as a lot of the Saban Entertainment stuff, they would have done reasonably well.

    Also, 4Kids had another English intro made before the crappy rap version.
    [url=http:// www.youtube.com/watch? v=ZrHO6DtFJ-Y]here[/url]
    Still not as good as Funimation's version, but 100^infinity times better than the rap.
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