Nice to see you help out others than just your United States audience.
I also agree, anamation is a great medium for story telling, and it's sad that it is being undercut by live- action shows that are quite underwhelming,and lacking imagination.
Great Episode as always, keep it up. =)

As I have already told. Anime is dead, and I think the people to blame is the very authors of them.

How could they even cath an audience with things like "The Prince of Tennis" and SHIT like that. I mean really. What is wrong, what were they thinking?

The truth is that we don't get a decent anime like since 10 years ago. Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Yu Yu Hakusho, Rurouni Kenshin, Cowboy bepbop, Slayers, and many other... they are all gone for long by now.

Animax is a very depressing channel. While it did start with 100% anime all the time, from what I remember, after ending the shows they had they just kept doing reruns, with very little vairation. I guess that bored the fans, which led to a decline in the ratings, prompting the very unwelcome change talked in this video. It pisses me and a lot of other fans that just because we grew tired of watching the same shows over and over again, we get "punished" by the changing of the content to standard shows rather than giving us more anime.

The situation of Animax, plus the huge prices for DVDs that don't have subtitles in our language, makes it very annoying to be a anime fan that tries to be "legal" in LA.

Thanks for doing this Marzgurl, as a latinamerican fan.

MarzGurl, I APPLAUD you for taking time to answer an issue outside of your region. Your information was really solid and you put a lot of effort into this.

I agree that this is a trend with all major networks, not just animation. For example, the Sci-Fi channel is now trying to appeal to a broader demographic by changing their name to SyFy and airing movies and shows that aren't exactly Sci-Fi inspired. Then you have the A&E, which used to stand for Arts and Entertainment, showing reality series like Gene Simmon's Family Jewels, Dog the Bounty Hunter and Billy the Exterminator. Finally, we all know what MTV became.

It seems that there isn't a future for themed channels anymore, and the minute ratings drop they change it completely. The appeal of these channels is that they have specific programming that you can't find anywhere. Changing them would just turn them into another channel desperate for ratings.

T_T its a sad day when something that shows anime now doesn't :grr:

Great video, its upsetting when channels called Animax and Cartoon Network dont have anime or cartoons (yes, I know Cartoon Network still has cartoons but still) but I understand why... even though I dont like it, ohh well I guess we just have to wait or do something about it *sigh*.

And sadly the few cartoons they have are very, very bad... T_T

God, what happened to Cartoon Network? They used to be a pretty awesome channel. Now...

:sigh:

Anyway, it's nice to see you tackle a more worldy issue than normal Marzgurl. I didn't know this had happened, but it's most definitely a sad thing. It always is when cartoonish channels lose their cartoons, which has really been happening quite a lot recently.

I don't know if we anime fans are or are not going about this the wrong way. All I know is that, no matter what the country or company, we need to find a way to help animation not be just pushed to the wayside.

A good while back, I was on a cruise ship where they showed this channel and, I think, a Spanish Cartoon Network. Interesting enough, they started to show the U.S shows instead of anime, and when I saw the channel, hearing about it from a "guide" I was ecstatic, and then disappointed.

It's definitely just like how things have been lately here in the U.S and it's really becoming more and more disappointing by the day. Only thing we can do is like you said, do what we can to express how we feel with intelligence instead of "l33t" speak and just hope for the best. At least more and more anime are now shown online, but even then, there are still those who don't have the access due to certain legitimate restraints.


Here's hoping that things can get better instead of going further down a path that might turn into "Idiocracy".

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS!

I'm a costarican too and although we have a relatively big anime movement here, watching anime is nearly imposible on TV! And it gets even worse if you want to get manga.
Animax was an option, for those who could afford it, but it quickly died down. Most of the anime I've watched on TV was on Cartoon Network some years ago, and still that was only like Rurouni Kenshin (wich they rerun like 50 times) and Love Hina or Yuyu Hakusho (Wih they aired once). Natonal TV airs Saint Seiya, Dragonball Z and sometimes Ranma all the time, year after year, I must have watched it at least 6 times when I was a kid.

Point is, its hard to get anime here outside the internet, but thank you so much for adresing an issue outside the US and talking about all the anime comunity :D
Keep your great work =D

I know I'm not from Latin America, but I knew I had to have my input in this.
Ah, Network Decay (or rather, MTV syndrome since it pretty much all started with them), you come to bite us in the ass and kick our stomachs once again.
I realize these niche networks need make money, especially in this economic shit storm. But, they are doing it in a very desperate way by forsaking the identity of a certain channel. Do all of these moronic executives only care about which reality TV show garners the highest ratings and less about creating shows that fit that niche the network used to be known for?
Like you've implied, this is especially bad for animation channels. Live-action shows on these channels are basically choking up the schedule, meaning less shows are being picked up. Out of those ones, a good amount of crap is expected like Bakugan, Fanboy & Chum Chum, and Kick Buttowski (and sadly, these are ratings gold.) This really pisses me; live action shows keep appearing with no end in sight, animation crew members losing jobs, the lack of respect of animation in the eyes of the general public...and SpongeBob keeps getting new episodes.
Nonetheless, I'm glad you brought this stuff up MarzGurl. We must let people around the world know that animation is just as important as anything else in the entertainment industry.

P.S. I thought you should read this article from ToonZone. It pretty much raises the same question of "Why?"[url=http:// www.toonzone.net/blog/ blogs/253/the-incredible- disappearing-animation- channel/]here[/url]

That article shoots itself in the foot at the end when it suggests non-animation stuff that would make sense on these networks. However, that's how a lot of networks start their downward spirals toward having programming line-ups that aren't even tangentially related to the their original theme.
You should never let them get their foot in the door, because, once it starts, [i]it will never end.[/i]

It is strange. 5-10 years ago, at least where i live (Germany) Anime (and to a lesser extend Manga) seemed to be an unstoppable juggernaut that was spreading and growing rapidly. More and more Animes were running on TV, western cartoons started to look Anime-ish, you found Mangas everywhere they sell books, newspapers and magazines and teens were walking around dressed like Manga and Anime characters.

But as it seems now, the whole thing was just a short lived bush fire.
I'm old and am not in touch with real youth culture anymore, so i don't know if it is because the kids and teens lost interest in it, or because they turned out not to be a profitable enough target audience to sustain the business.

As far as i can see those German TV stations that broadcast Anime at all, only show reruns of shows they already showed 5 or more years ago.

I can remember, 12 to 14 years ago, when i was something between 18 and 20, they showed DragonballZ the first time in Germany after running the original Dragonball series for a few years. Right at the beginning they announced that they would be airing DragonballGT after finishing Z first, but they never did. When Z was through, they just started rerunning it instead of airing GT and as far as i know, more than 12 years later, DragonballGT has still never been shown on German TV. That TV station that once tried to sort of pioneer Anime in Germany, now only shows reruns of Pokemon, Digimon and maybe Yu-Gi-Oh, as far as i know.

Hi Marz Gurl!!!!!!!!!!! Luis here!!!! I wasn't a member of the site but when i saw the video i had to make an account and rate the video and comment!!!! thank you, Thank You, Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! XB


THANK YOU IN THE NAME OF ALL LATIN AMERICA!!!!!

WOW! I was really surprised when I saw the tittle of this episode and the fact that you spoke about Animax which is a channel a lot of people have told me about mostly because of the programming that is not remotely related to anime. As a Latin American (Dominican) I'm glad to see that you took the approach of speaking about a latino subject. As you can see, your audience is international and multilingual. English is the second language you are taught in school and the Internet helps to learn as well.

Now that I think about it, Marzgurl, you should talk about manga publications in other countries and which languages are some mangas translated to. I'm sure you'll do great! =D

Great Video! It was informative and very well researched! Great job! =D

It's sad what's happening to our fandom here in North America. Otaku's present a larger amount of the population than I think people realize. Maybe we could hold a rally or something, a world wide protest! That would get people's attention! XB

Ok now that I know what's going on in Latin America, think you could give us Canadian Otakus a bit of a look over to see if we're suffering the same as you guys? :nuu:

I know that websites like Hulu only operate in america, and if anime companies start streaming anime online as a main source of revenue, are we liable to be left out? Being an Otaku is tough enough! Espically here in Canada when Manga and Anime DVD's are being seized in airports and at the border for "Questionable Content" :dizzy:

I guess whatever happens in the American anime community happens here too but even if we are in the same community unfortunatly I think the border makes all of us up here expendable. :pout: What do you think?

Although the issue was depressing and made me wanna do a sexy-cry for reminding me of the state of anime & animation in general on television, I have to say that this was extremely informative and my attention was just locked onto the screen!

I always liked your videos, but being brave enough to explore issues outside your country really shows you're taking it up a notch! Excellent work! XB

Any site steaming "White Chicks" needs to be taken down immediately.

before animax was a channel that came form heaven named LOCOMOTION(very well know from 1998 to 2005) taht was the anime channel... not a 100$ anime all day but the 70% was... from classic like gatchaman, red baron, to early 2000's one like candidate for a godness...
here is the list of anime i saw on LOCOMOTION>>>

gatchaman, red baron, evangelion, end of evangelion, GTS, GTO, those who hunt elves I&II, blue seed, esclafone movie, candidate for a godness, vampire hunter D, saver marionette j,JtoX, marionette R, marionette anagin, bubblegum crisis, Bubblegum crisis tokio 2040, aika, burn-up, burn-up express, nadessico, ah! my mini- godness, ah! my godness OVA, birdy OVA, coboy bebop, pet shop of horroe, sakura mail, samurai girl high school, ex-driver, lupin the III, le's dance with papa, earth girl arjuna, etc etc...soo. also marzgurl mention about localization... well for thelas 12 years DBZ is broadcasting on canal 5 on weekdays for a hour, only a few yeasrs back the telemacketing on mexican program attack canal 5 telling them to repuce the violence on they programs making DBZ a little less bloddy, on one of the majos local channel rivals of canal 5... canal 7 also realize a anime block from 1907 to now... staring with showsa like maxinger z, captain tsubasa(aka los super campeones), magic knightrearth, sailor moon(the latin version is more pasable), on the 2000 canal 7 start showing anime like inuyasha, the only problem was that was broadcasthing at 4pm and uncut making the channel to taked out of view, cartoon network latin america picked to putted on saturdays at 8pm... fiuuu... any more info only ask please...

Same here, all national TV channels have had their run of dragonball, dragonball Z, ranma, sailor moon, and the first season of Naruto and Inuyasha about.... a million times (never releasing anything else) Oh and Digimon.
I must say though, comparing Mexican and American voice actors, Latin Dubs are WAY better, I like Kenshins voice in spanish better and Gokus is just SO good XD

the memories of Locomotion are some of my fondest ones from all my fandom days. the true problem with Animax was that it was supposed to be a successor to Locomotion, and the first thing we get are a lot of sub-par titles: we went from watching what Sakurangel mentioned above in Locomotion to watch dollar bin tittles or cheap remakes of classics in Animax (add insult to injury, we also went from watching very good dubs and even subtitled titles by locomotion to watch horrible dubs).
Im not sure from what country are you Sakurangel, but here in Argentina we had the following: Mazinger Z, with Great Mazinger appearing with a couple of episodes when Mazinger vs the general of darkness showed (and it wasnt the butchered Tranzor thing either, it was the original dubbed in spanish, for that matter remember a local sub, a mexican sub and the spain sub), Heidi, Gatchaman (3 or 4 different versions even including the american dubbed), captain Tsubasa, Time Bokan, Robotech (of course), Daltanias, Arbegas, Voltron (both american made and im sure Dairugger was shown as well in its original form with a local dub when i was very little).
Jibaku kun, Sailor moon (also latin american dub which respected the original openings, endings and was mostly uncut, tho retained the name changes), Saint Seiya, Ranma 1/2, Vampire Hunter D, Inuyasha, Rurouni Kenshin, Naruto, Locke the superman (im guessing one of the very first movies), candy candy (hell, there were a lot of shoujo shows back in the day)...and thats as far as my memory goes, becose its a list of thing that has been up in tv since at least the late 70s when my aunt was little (for that matter, my dad used to watch ultraman and giant robot live action) and all this was shown mostly in public TV and then in the mid 90s in cable channels.

edit: how could i forget this one...in 1985, i watched astroboy daily, that along with Mazinger Z are my earliest memories

I live in mexico and I used to have animax, I have one month free subscription 2 years ago and it was awesome =D . But now is trut this, last months the Programming is changeing slowing,right now,I just check the programming of tomorrow the last anime program leaves at 1:30 p.m. and the next anime since this last leaves at 1:00 a.m., this means eleven and half hours of no anime.

[color=red]THIS IS BULLSHITTTTTTTTT :grr: :flame: :talkbiz: [/color]

And something else almost all the tv show (no anime) are from the sony chanel, almost loocks like sony pass all is shit to animax, and this is bullshit too

I dont live in America so you guys are screwed =D

You think that's bad?
where i live there was one anime channel that only show about 5 animes over and over and they where the worst most obscure boring ones i even seen (except for Patlabor, that's awesome)
and because of low rating (what a surprised)they remove it completely

This is a good example of your best work; Finding relevant anime news and exploring the topic rather well. Not to mention, actually inspiring us to think if there's anything more we can do for the fan community. Keep it up. =)

Great vid Marzy.

Now, to address the Ideas of these Management Chuckleheads. I would quite gladly skin, behead and rampantly defile whatever MORON devised CNReal. It's called CARTOON Network. Not Kids' Network, CARTOON. Because everybody likes Cartoons. And Cartoons aren't just for kids.

Such is the case with a station like Animax. It's got "Anim" in the title, thus you expect Animated shows, if not straight-up Anime.

And yet, Senora Empty-dome comes along and thinks "I don't like this, people aren't watching this geek channel, let's cut back on the ani, and pile on the MAX!"

With Predictable results. When will they learn? Do we have to get physical? Do we have to riot on the streets? Dammit, we want to watch Anime on TV! I haven't seen Anime on UK Terrestrial since 4Later in the early 2000s! It's a bloody disgrace!

Actually, There's a topic for your next regional overview, Dear old Blighty. (The UK)

Mata-ne! =D

it's true. i'm from argentina so anime it's out of the picture. we used to have a channel called locomotion that later became animax. locomotion aired a very large variety of anime shows and in original japanese format but then animx came along and, well, you know :grr: .
i'm sorry to have to say this but i'm relying almost entirely on fansubs to get the shows i want to watch, or wait to a dvd release that cost a fortune in my country. so yeah life sucks and thanks to bring this to life. good job
(sorry my english sucks):O

bring this to light... lol srry :eyebrow:

Wow, and here I though Animax Asia broadcasting Korean drama was way out of context (no offense to Korea).

Nice editorial Marzgurl!

Claudia Bermudas Key? What kind of name is that? Weird name, thats what.

thank you... T_T thank you... T_T now i know why animax sucks so hard now... CLAUDIA BERMUDEZ!!!! DEMANDO SU SANGRE AHORAA!!! LE ARRANCARE LA CABEZA Y SE LA METERE ABAJO DE LA FALDA PARA QUE VEA COMO LE ABRO OTRO ANO!! :grr: :grr:

IN THE NAME OF ANIME FANS IN LATIN AMERICA
THANK YOU =D

Tranquilo.... ya pasó.. ya pasó.
Anime sucks for everybody right now :(

foxkids mexico was having very few but cool anime series.... patlabor, patlabor the movie, all digimon seasons, the movies, even nadessico the movie(yup uncut in foxkids, that my friends was the days)... any anime show that apear on foxkids america plus abc kids back on 2002 to 2003 was seen on foxkids mexico(latin america)
back to animax... well i all hear good things of it, blood+, hellsing, hunterxhunter etc... the only backdonw was the super falling translation by studios in venezuela(nothing again venezuela) is that the same 6 voices are used for 8 diffetents animes at the same time... soo that was soo unatural to hear kurapica having the same voy at helssing, and kilua the same voice at a extra in blood+...
is like the old dubs of tokiopop...*you getted )

It's quite common that American shows dominate networks outside of the US. Where I live I belief they show 85% US shows (localized). Not to mention most Native shows are subsidized with government money.

However I prefer streaming over Normal TV. Mostly because you can watch it when you want to. For example I can watch Doctor who on the BBC. But most cases I streamed it from the web because I forgot to watch it.

I am tired of CN Real too it is garbage i do not like having to watch anime only on adult swim I know quite a few people in the U.S. who will support the protest

Animax and its terrible future! Don't they know there's something called Nick at Night or the N to watch these shows? Besides, I remember when I was growing up in Colombia and [i]Nickelodeon Latin America[/i] showed Clueless and other American/Canadian shows! It's not like we're "clueless" about it! (puns!) The same thing with other channels!
What it's happening is that Local Latin American TV has been showing Anime since... what? The dawn of time? lol And funny enough, the channels that show the most anime (from my sweet 90s memories of youth) were Mexican Channels! Like [i]TV Azteca[/i] and [i]TV13[/i]! Geez, Saturdays were loaded with Anime and during the weekdays these channels would also show Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Ranma, GS Mikami (and others) in a 4pm-9pm schedule for everybody to watch. Venezuela channels used to do the same until Chavez peaked his nose to (insert stupid speeches here) and interrupted the schedule of DBZ-- that bastard!
As for Colombian channels, [i]Caracol[/i], [i]RCN TV[/i], and [i]RTI[/i] are not that hardcore like the Mexican Channels but showed anime nonetheless. My point here is that Anime has always been within Latin Americans reach-- but it seems that we just wanted more as a private channel (like [i]Funimation Channel[/i]) but it just got a turn for the worse. Nothing says "get away from here we have no intentions of showing your shows" that replacing it with other shows that have nothing to do with the theme of the channel to begin with...

And thank you for showing this topic! :) You are awesome!