Ah, quite the depressing undertones...
Now I want a Birdemic review from you

ohhhhhhhhhhhh!

I just flinched when that kid brought up The Eagles as a example of "occultist rock music" I felt that when he said that not only did he take a jab at The Eagles, but a jab at my Mom and My Stepdad who are not only big Eagles fans and love thier songs but are also strong faith-welding christians.


They even dismiss the whole rumor of "Hotel California" as being about Alistar Crowly. THEY know the real story behind each of these Eagles' songs. Seriously wants me want to go up to that guy and deck him for family honor.

If anything, The Eagles have always been considered very mainstream. One would have to live a pretty sheltered life to think they're "occultist". Next they'll tell me that air conditioning is "black magic".

Well then, just how do you explain air conditioning? Warm air goes in, cold air comes out, you can't explain that. As it is written in Revelations 3:15 "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot." Both air conditioning and heat are our indulgence in things not of Christ but of Satan. When you enter air conditioning, how do you feel? You feel cold. Your body is being controlled!!

amen. the eagles play the most easy listening songs ever.

What is interesting about this is that althought it was made in the eighties it brings up bands mainly from the sixties and seventies rather than name drop alot of the popular rock/metal music from the Eighties as if they are suggesting that the kids were listening to bands like Eagles, Rolling Stones, Jefferson Starship, and that sort of thing bands that the parents listened to when they were thier age.


Whereas, back then even in the eighties most of the sixties and seventies rock was mostly listened to by the parents and sometimes looked over by the teenagers in preference over thier own current bands like Twisted Sister, White Snake, Testla, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Van Halen, etc.



Now I am not saying it was all true back then, but it does bring up a tad bit of musical era continuity issues between what the generation back then actually listened to and what their own parents actually considered was real rock music then. Somehow I just feel they screwed up the generational gap in music era bands to the point that you could easily mistake this for a film made in the seventies.

He only reviews stuff he already owns. You can of course buy & mail Birdemic to him.

I'd like to see him do a crossover with Oancitizen.

He has already (well, the Snob and Oancitizen have).

Look on Oan's page for 'Tromeo and Juliet'

I cant believe this movie, its so depresing, any way great review, Brad.

Espically the hanging himself joke at the end, something tells me Brad had to throw Lloyd in to cushion the awkward blow.

*hugs Lloyd and feeds him tuna*

Wow. I don't think I've been this pissed at something since Future Five. The people who made "Rock it's your Decision" are MORONS!!!

I mean these people don't know anything, a lot of rock stars have a spiritual side to them. People like George Harrison "My Sweet Lord", Pete Townsend "Let My Love Open the Door" (yes that song is about God) and Eric Clapton "Presence of the Lord".

Great review Brad. Can't wait to see more from this series.

[q] and Eric Clapton "Presence of the Lord"[/q]


Next the guys in this Rock Music-hating video are going to say that "Tears in Heaven" has backwards Satanic messages in it. *rolls her eyes*


Great video Brad, not since Linkara's review of "Batman:Fortunate Son" has a Rock Music-hating progranda bashing been ever needed.

Also, there's the slight phenomenon of CHRISTIAN ROCK that they glaringly decided to ignore. And at this point, there was even some Christian metal coming up - the '80s were the heyday of Stryper and their antics of throwing Bibles into the crowd.

So much idiocy in this film that offends me, both as a Christian and as a fan of rock and metal. The people that created this piece of garbage need to be barred from ever producing anything again.

Well done, Brad. I only wish you could have insulted the movie more.

This was absolutely hilarious! You rock, Brad (And that's my decision!)

I sat through a seminar similar to the one Jeff gives at the end of the film. It was one of the youth group things my parents made me go to. I was there for about twelve minutes. They had to remove me because I couldn't stop laughing at the ridiculousness I was hearing.

Ah, memories. I still giggle a bit just thinking back on it.

I cannot be more happy to be from a city where almost everyone would not only laugh at these kind of pep talk, but would probably refute or leave immediately.

You're seriously telling us that this situation happened to you not long ago ? :( Where do you live ?

wow, I am surprised it took them that long to get get you out of there. That is crazy that something lik that could happen in real life.

Still, the moral of this movie is, that religion can be the worst things to happen to human society.

I find this point of view fascinating in that grouping all religion together and calling it "the worst thing to happen to humanity" makes you no better than the protagonist of this movie who was grouping all rock music together to call all of it "evil".

well done sir, bravo, ass clowns like that deserve it

Oh god every word that guy said makes me want to punch him in the face, great vid Brad, is it me or did that cat come at a perfect time at the end :)

It's like the cat was trying to say "I approve of this review".

Its fantastic how the cat jumps behind you in the last moment. Did you stage that?

Wow. This reminds me of the song "Turn it Off" from "The Book of Mormon" musical (oh, and if you're wondering, yes, Mormons can listen to Rock and Roll; its not like alcohol or not having babies).

Mormon Musical? You should post a link. I could use a laugh.

Here's the song I was talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=cWA_jr-AwyA

Also coffee. For some, coffee is a no-no.

Dude, Days of our Lives is awesome now! (I've been watching it religiously for the past 15 years) Never got to see it in the 80's, I will say that 2000's era Patch and Kayla sucked (glad they're gone), but the show has a lot more going for it besides them.

Why was I thinking that this was like a behind the scenes look at the relatively new song by Alice in Chains?

Don't hit me.

Rock is nothing but death and crime and the RAGE of a BEAST!

Oh, c'mon... someone had to.

I really loved this review, Brad. Actually pretty poignant in spots whilst managing to be hilarious.

[q]Oh, c'mon...someone had to[/q]


I am glad you did it, I am surprised that no one else besides me has brought up a Batman: Forturnate Son joke or even reference. Not even Brad. But then again, he probably was lucky to not have heard of it.

Wow. This takes me back.

I remember when I was six years old, I used to go to church with my best friend on Wednesday nights. One night, the theme was music. The preacher was asking everyone to say who their favorite singers were. The kids were answering with these Christian kid bands I'd never heard of.

My answer: Peter Gabriel and Pink Floyd. I still remember the speechless, shocked look on his face. My parents have since told me that the preacher told them afterward that he was "concerned" about what they were exposing me to.

Yeah, I wasn't allowed to with her after that.

Likewise. I grew up in a preacher's home and went to several Christian schools. While my parents didn't really care one way or the other about music unless it was blatantly saying something like "Go out and commit mass murder," the schools I went to preached about the evils of rock music over and over again. Hell, my best friend's father was always calling me a bad influence on him because I listened to "Weird Al" Yankovic. We all know how Satanic HE is!

That bit at the end where whats-his-name is squealing in horror at the fact that music makes you dance was so word-for-word the same as the crackpots who we had in our chapel services every Wednesday that I was suddenly overcome with the same rage I felt toward their arrogant narrow-mindedness that I wished I could have been there to punch the dork in the face.

Hey, preaching elicits an emotion, too! Guess that's evil as well! Never thought of that one!

I had watched another film that was teaching about the danger of rock and roll before I saw this (and yes I'll admit i was caught up in it as a ignorant, young christian). I used to only listen to christian music as a result. But you know the interesting thing? Groups who made videos like this one were also attacking the christian rock and roll music scene. When you are attacking bands who's lyrics consist of biblical ideals just because they are using rock music to do so, you know you're taking it way too far.


Anywho, Thanks Brad. I think you not only reviewed this without alienating the religion associated with this movie, but you also brought up some VERY good counterpoints.

Yep. The Christian high school I went to specifically targeted Christian rock many times. They insisted that if you listened to or played rock music, regardless of lyrical content, you would go to hell. They condemned pretty much every kind of music except for hymns and classical stuff like Mozart and whatnot.

They also said movie theaters were evil. Lawl.

Mozart, the guy who corrupts the youth with his new-fangled music style? ;-)

According to most Christian legalists, it's not the lyrics but the music. Apparently the music itself with its "jungle beats" is inherently evil. Yeah, one of the chapel speakers at my school went on this huge spiel about how the beat in most rock music is the same sort of beat in African music and he heavily implied that any ethnicity other than Caucasian was of the Devil. Rest assured I grilled his ass like crazy for that after chapel.

I got detention for it too, but it was so worth it to see the look on that self-righteous bastard's face when I called him a racist tool.

I think it's the first time I said that to someone who verbally attacked someone after a chapel speak:
"You're a genuinely good person."

"Apparently the music itself with its "jungle beats" is inherently evil. Yeah, one of the chapel speakers at my school went on this huge spiel about how the beat in most rock music is the same sort of beat in African music and he heavily implied that any ethnicity other than Caucasian was of the Devil"

At this juncture I would like to point out that most rock music is not only written in 4/4 or 'Common' time, but is a genre largely dominated by white males.

But to be fair, rock and roll came from black americans,and the original white rockers were influenced by african american blues musicians.

Not saying that rock is evil, just pointing out the origins of rock music.

You handled the review very well, Brad. No stepping on toes of Christians and being very fair to others' ideas and beliefs when I would probably not have been so kind.

Good job! I hope you can do more like this.

at the end where your cat jumped out of no where was a good touch to the review.

you know I would be absolutely ecstatic to see what these people thought of U2, or even more so Toby Mac (though the latter may be a bit of a stretch.

Also, fun fact: did you know the lead singer of slayer is a christian? :O

That was the first time I've heard about Tom Arya being a devoted Christian. It's the most ironic thing knowing the bassist and singer in a band that have been looked at as satanic is a Christian.

I'd rather see these folks listen to a little Dimmu Borgir and watch them flip out.

These guys are insulting to Christians everywhere.

Sad thing is it's not just an American problem either.

That cat has awesome timing.

Most of them don't care about the lyrics? So... what was that about being hypocritical? Either he can't follow his own advice, or someone singing/screaming about Jesus with an electric guitar in the background sends people straight to hell.

Oops. Well, I tried to save my soul.

What, no Batman? How can you be anti-rock music but not have Batman show up? You know, I think even the most loving and tolerant brony would be incapable of loving and tolerating the shit out of this twit instead of beating the shit out of him.

Because pointlessly referencing other people's reviews isn't really all that funny?

I was talking about the movie, not the review.

As a Christian I apologize for the crazy rednecks in my religion who are scared of everything that wasn't in their happy backwater villages.

I am really surprised I never saw this in high school. My parents sent me to a super conservative Christian high school and for 4 years my friends and I were bombarded by the exact same arguments this film is making. And yes, we were shown MANY films on how rock music is evil.

Hell, I remember one time a visiting pastor came to preach and he said that drums themselves were evil because they were, and I quote, African voodoo. Guess he's forgetting the fact that the Israelites were quite fond of tambourines (half drum, half cymbal).

Excuse me while I go listen to some Rush and further damn my soul.

At my church, everyone likes rock music. I didn't know we were Satanists.

The only real Satanists are these fakes who do more to turn people away from the church than anything else. I couldn't even enjoy this episode, because people like them cause me more disquiet than anything else.

Take a look at Westboro Baptist church. Christianity is supposed to be all about tolerance and forgiveness, but the people at Westboro are probably the most intolerant, ignorant, bigoted morons on the planet.

Oh, that cat's timing couldn't be any more perfect.

Another brilliant episode Mr Brad! Or shall I call you Hones? I don't know, too drunk SORRY har har.

I am sharing this guy all over the Fail Books.

Also MOAR PLOX.

Excellent!

Hahaha, great one Brad.

Hey, Brad, can I ask you something?

When you said that you hate MOST of today's youth, do you mean the bullying-type youth who go around smoking and drinking underaged and vandalize other's property thinking they're cool, or the sensitive-type youth who are usually shy, timid and kind, they watch anime and only wish that someone else understood how they feel?

I have a feeling that Brad's answer to your question is just going to be, "Yes."

...and this is one of the reasons why I hate Christians. Well, I should clarify and say specifically the uneducated ones that think this way, as I know not all Christians think like this (I have one friend who is a Christian and a Yaoi fangirl). Then when he brought homophobia into it, that was just REALLY uncalled for. Heck, last I checked, whenever sex was mentioned in most rock music it was between a man and woman. So just where on earth did he find anything homosexual in that?

And I agree with you Brad, this movie looks very depressing. Like some psychological horror flick about some kid's downward spiral into insanity.
Plus, I just loved how you handled this review, it was really well done.


...and Loyd has the most perfect timing at times.

Don't say you hate Christians if you don't really hate Christians. Most of the time, when someone claims to "hate" a certain group (Christians, high school jocks, the French, etc.), they try to defend themselves by narrowing it down to the small percentage who have a specific annoying characteristic (closed-mindedness, arrogance, being French, etc.). But the fact is, they'd be just as frustrated with anybody who expressed that characteristic, regardless of who they're affiliated with.

Basically, instead of saying "I hate Christians" then adding "Well, I should clarify and say specifically the uneducated ones that think this way" just say that you hate it when people are uneducated and think that way. I'm not trying to call you out or reprimand you, but it's best not to put the image in people's heads if you don't have to.

Regarding the video, I'm constantly listening to bands like Hammerfall, Rhapsody of Fire, and Dark Moor. If KISS and The Eagles are satanist, then does that make me "beyond satanist"?

Yeah, looking back on that comment, I should have said that differently. If could I would go back and edit that comment simply as "I hate the Christians who think this way..."

Thats what I get for writing comments half asleep at 2am...

Oh, Brad. This entire video, but ESPECIALLY the way you ended it, makes me want to hug you. A lot. This was all just bonkers and a bit sad until they brought homophobia into it. Consider yourself glomped for your reaction to that.

And as dated as this film is, I have met people who still think this way. I guess I can understand how rock music, particularly with the lifestyles of many of the musicians, would have seemed a lot more intimidating back then. But the thing is... that's actually led to a whole lot of good coming from those very same musicians. It's kind of fascinating how many of them have turned their lives around and started doing really, really good things now. Like... take for example Nikki Sixx from Motley Crue. The guy was officially pronounced dead once because he was ingesting and injecting everything he could get his hands on back in the 80's. He's now published two books about his experiences back then that have literally changed people's lives, my own included. Duff McKagan, from Guns n Roses and Velvet Revolver, has also settled into a writing career as a columnist and a very family-oriented dude. And the one I actually know best and most personally, Slash. He's also put out a book with a lot of really great shit in it, not to mention some of the messages behind the songs on his solo album. Oh, and as far as messages go, the stuff Nikki's doing with Sixx:A.M. is magnificent and so, so needed in the world today. But even more than that? These guys are all people who've been through hell and learned from it and came out of it with an incredible generosity and openness towards people who need understanding rather than rebellion.

And therein lies the real ignorance in the mindset of people like the ones in this film. On the one hand, here's this jackass kid preachily condemning people for their TASTE in music, and then going on to damn addicts and homosexuals. On the other hand, Slash once stayed up all night texting me through Twitter when I was having a major crisis in my life and helped me deal with some issues I was having involving addiction and destructive behavior in myself and other people that was overwhelming me, as well as dealing with prejudice from my family due to my sexuality.

One of these people is a pure, God-fearing, repentant Christian who is fearful and avoidant of any perceived potential source of temptation. The other is a badass rockstar who once injected whiskey directly into his fucking veins, who's slept with so many women he almost qualifies for a license as a sperm bank, and whose casual use of profanity was a major part of the censorship battles in the early 90's that resulted in the existence of parental advisory stickers on CDs.

The latter is the one who is closer to God, to use Christian terminology for what really means living in a way that brings the most good to the greatest number of people without having to harm others to do it. Some ...

...days I just want to print out some of the testimonies I've seen from people on the internet posting about how these rockstars saved their lives with the stuff they've done, paste them all to a sign, and send a photo of it to these religious fundamentalists along with a trollface picture and have the only text along with the message read, "PROBLEM?"

"v, to glomp
NOT sexual, it is the action of one person lovingly (and dramatically) attacking another with a hug.
A glomp is often preadatory and lies somewhere in the grey area between a caring embrace, and a flying leap to tackle someone. "

Oooooooh. Learn something new I guess.

That is quite possibly the most moving story I've ever heard, being a fan of Slash and GnR. Rock on and god bless.

This was fifty minutes of pure stupidity. It doesn't even appear to be on Jeff's side. In the end, he becomes a social outcast and starts to think he's superior to people, and were supposed to sympathize with him? I prefer his unnamed friend character (Or maybe he did get a name, I'm not sure) then Jeff, the so called protagonist. And my reaction was indeed quite similar to Brad's when Jeff pulls the "Rock supports homosexuality" card. This is just bad. And nowhere near so bad it's good. I mean, every copy of this ever made needs to be piled and set ablaze bad.

Brad, I already loved you and your work but that reaction, that sheer disgust at the homophobia, just takes it to another level. You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

Agreed so hard. Brad's reaction to homophobia is so perfect, I didn't think I could have any more respect for him than I did. But I was wrong.

Having dealt with that kind of douchebaggery myself, I've gotta say it was pretty cool to see Brad, my favorite tgwtg'er, say that.