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Sunday, 14 September 2008 01:13

Hmmm.

    I really don't know how this article is going to end, but for the most part it's going to tell you a lot, at least about the blip move, why it happened, and the consequences for the constant stupid comments that I have been seeing lately.  If you don't read this, and end up losing your ability to post comments, it's your fault.

 

    See here's the thing,  this site is based on the internet, and like most growing and fairly big sites, we attract a global audience.   Couple that with the fact that EVERY one of you has some different computer setup via hardware/software, and some of you are BOUND to have issues with the new video host.  It's inevitable.  This site gets over 1 million visits a month now.  Now when we moved to Revver we had the exact same issues with different people complaining up a storm, and now the same thing is happening now.

    So here's the story.  Revver more or less is nothing but problems.  Delayed video uploads/Freezing Uploads/Ad incorporation delays etc etc.  The videos at times can take over a day to get into the NostalgiaCritic account.  That equals issues.  Payments are beyond delayed.  We won't be getting July's payments for another 3+ weeks, and who knows when Augusts payments are going out.  This site NEEDS money to run for now.  This site is paid for by Bhargav and Myself.  We pay the monthly fees out of our own pockets.  This isn't some cute little hobby we have going on right now, and this site costs a hell of a lot to run.   Which leads me to another issue. 

    The constant, why doesn't the admin fix this, why doesn't he do that, he hasn't responded to my message (this went as far as someone actually freaking messaging me on X-Box Live, saying that I needed to get his issue fixed.)  I for one did not code this site (Yes I made it, Yes I update it many times a day),but  it's basically a bunch of CMS stuff molded into a site.  I do some random html/php to help things run, but that is it.  For updates to the comments/forums/blogs, I'm at the mercy of the people who made these components.  Another issue is the fact that I unfortunately don't get paid anything from this.  The money when we get it will be going to the video makers.  Anything after the server costs goes to them.  I work a full time job (read 40 hours a week), and then put in another 50 hours a week, taking care of this site/talent pickup/business meetings/CEO stuff etc etc etc.  So that's 90 hours a week spent working (try doing that for over a year and tell me how you feel).   I try to get stuff fixed, but geez people stop acting like since my role is admin, that I will have your problem fixed ASAP.  I will get to your issues when I have a chance.

    For all of you complaining about blip..  There are forums for that, or you can send me a Private Message.  These posts of, OMG Blip sucks Go back to revver are done with.  You clog a video comment thread with these, and you will lose your ability to post comments.  If you have an issue do what I said above.  Include information that can help me HELP YOU.  I need to know, Your internet speed/browser/computer speed + ram/what anti virus/anti spyware programs that are running/what country your in/what else is running when your watching the video.  I NEED this info to help you.  Blip so far has been nothing short of amazing with there support.  The video quality is also 3x what was on Revver, and if we didn't have a fairly small but sizable audience running lower than 1024x768 resolutions, we would have the videos running at a much larger resolution.    Also there are freaking REVVER LINKS below each video (they make take more than a day to appear, due to the issues going on at revver).  You have no reason to complain, click the link, and enjoy.

    Also, trolling videos telling authors that they suck, should die, leave the site, etc etc, will also cause your comment ability to be gone.  We have a very intelligent audience here, and want it to stay that way.  If you have a problem with a person, point out your issues with the video or person.  Actually use real reason and logic as to why there is an issue.  These you suck style comments days are also over.  Post a hate comment, lose your ability to post future comments.  We at TGWTG love constructive criticism, so please explain your displeasure. 

    So to sum this up.  Useless troll/flame comments automatically will cause you to lose your comment ability.  We're staying with Blip, but I will have a Revver link below each video (may be a day or two delay). 

---end rant--

 

Now to the other stuff.

NC Chick video should be up tomorrow night.  Who won, who lost?  Stay tuned.

A new version of the blogging and comment features will be up mid-week.

 

I'm tired and need to head off to bed. 

-Mike

 

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Thanks for the update.
written by Curiosity Inc , September 14, 2008
It was more than a little overdue, but thanks for keeping us all in the know.

For my part, I'm very glad to say that I made my first payment as a premium member today. Anyone who hasn't should do so ASAP. You won't regret it, and it sounds like the site could use the money right now.

And last but not least, we finally have a concrete deadline for the NChick's formal arrival. Can't wait.
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written by Raymond T ThatDutchGuyWithTheTransformers , September 14, 2008
We're right behind you, Mike. Obviously you are tired of getting the 'you suck'-comments. You are right in front of the line, and we fill the line with tired of reading them.

You guys have done an amazing job here, without asking anything in return. All of you rock!
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written by Eket , September 14, 2008
I'm sure you have thought about this already.

But why don't you hire outside help for fixing site issues? I doubt i'm the only web developer that has an account on TGWTG, and most web developers/designers are looking to spread their name around online. If on a big website like this an issue is fixed by one of these developers, and you make an update saying this and that was fixed by him/her. That's really enough incentive to get outside help for free.

If you do this with a lot of people it will bring a few extra problems ( you would need to use something like CVS/SVN ), but it might be worth it to invest some time in looking for 1 or 2 people to help out with site issues.
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written by Fduk200k , September 14, 2008

Well said and I'm glad the people who just want to annoy and name call will get fazed out. I enjoy banter between people but when its pathetic name callings and threats, its not only boring and childish but sad and turns the site into nothing but a you tube add on, because you tube has enough trolls to live under every bridge over the world. I've never had any issues with the site or video links (I know I'm lucky here) but I can't believe people would actually look you up on XBox live to sort this out. Thats like someone working in a supermarket being approached on the street by a customer you served and being asked how much a shirt is. You'd have been well within your rights to tell him you were on your time and for him to sod off and let you to enjoy your leisure time.

Keep up the great work on the site. Its appreciated and the effort you put into it really does show.
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Good Stuff.
written by LordTezza , September 14, 2008
I think the blip videos are great. Some times the revver ones wouldn't load or just stop playing mid way through. At least I can watch it better looking as well.

Keep up the good work. smilies/wink.gif
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written by DeSandman , September 14, 2008
I personally have never had any problems with blip.tv and another other video formats that were used on this site. I'll be glad to see the blip.tv sucks comments disappear so I can actually see what people think of the content in the videos, not the quality of videos.
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written by fettsvett201 , September 14, 2008
Good on ya. Not liking a reviewer or telling someone of a video problem is one thing, but hate message and constant bitching is another. Im glad to see something like this happen.
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written by Altorin , September 14, 2008
I think you do a phenomenal job Mr admin. This website updates every day basically, so all of you guys are working hard. I'm sorry people have been griefing you, and to the point of messaging you on XBL? that's just wrong.

I personally never have troubles with the videos here, other then some slow streaming rates, which I can usually attribute to my own bandwidth issues, and I deal with them on my own time. The only negative comment I have ever posted on this site was about Riz's rant about the supercollider experiments, and it wasn't an attack, in fact he sent me a message saying that I "inspired" him with my comment.

You should get paid at least a pittance for the hard work you do man, and I hope one day the site will allow that. Maybe you should start making videos, sneak in the back door, lol. Sure, the website has some issues, and would probably benefit from a redesign, but it's not hurting too bad as it is, and every video website could benefit from the same thing.

I'm sure no-one read through this whole thing, so I'll give you the footnotes here: Keep doing the work that you're doing Mr Admin, the website you help run is awesome.

The End.
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written by Daffy , September 14, 2008
I, for one, don't have any problems with blip. The clarity, for me anyways, is no different from revver and they both download at pretty much the same rate. I think the website is doing great.

As to the comments thing, thank GOD! I'm just sick of all the random hater comments, and not just on my own stuff. People need to use their heads when commenting.
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written by Cferra , September 14, 2008
The rules seem fine to me and reminds me of message board rules against flaming. I have no problem with whatever you use for videos. If it works, it works. If someone else can't view it, they then really shouldn't blame the site. There's not much you can do I guess other than try to help out when you can.

Can't wait to see who won the NChick title. That should be a good vid to look forward to tomorrow night.
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Stupid People -_-
written by Sinner Dragoon , September 14, 2008
Mike I Feel for you. It has always baffled me how people feel they have the right to complain about something thats FREE!!!

I may have something that could fix the video issue. when you first switched over to blip I had some issues with it myself. I did two things I updated my version of the The K-Lite Mega Codec Pack, and I updated my fire fox add-ons. One of the two fixed the issues. Some of you may wish to try installing the The K-Lite Mega Codec Pack. Its free, has no viruses or spy ware and it provides you with damn near every codec you will need. Best of all it plays everything in windows media player classic so you don't need a bunch of different programs installed. you can get the latest version here http://www.codecpackguide.com/klmcodec.htm

www.stupidpeoplepissmeoff.com Mike Feel free to go here and bitch all you want. Its a blog site for people who hate stupid people. ^_^

Good Day
Sinner Dragoon

P.S. Sorry if I'm not supposed to post links in the comments. But I feel these will help some people out. ^_^
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Two tiny little qeustions...
written by The Brit , September 14, 2008
First let me say that I agreed with everything said in this, and that I am over the moon that you shall not to return to Revver which always needed about 10 refreshes before it would work for me. I would just like to ask a couple of things: You said you could put the video in higher resolution, is it possible to give a link to that like you are giving to the Revver people? And also is it possible to put your Revver videos on Blip for us? Thanks a lot and I hope all of this childish name calling and threats stop here
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NChick
written by The Brit , September 14, 2008
Sorry to post two comments, but will the NChick announcement delay the NC's Surf Nija's review, or will it not matter, or maybe the NChick will make an appearance in that episode. WHICH IS IT!
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Well said
written by Alkarl , September 14, 2008
Thank you for saying things that needed to be said. When comments start to get out of hand (i.e you suck, go die in a fire, e.t.c), then it's time to lay down the law, and educate the masses on what is and isn't acceptable.

As for the Revvar to blip move, I've had no problems, and most videos have been loading faster under blip than revvar! I was happy. But of course, someone is always gonna have problems...

But yes. Well said, well said!
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written by SquarEvil , September 14, 2008
I think your doing a great job, admin. You helped me out when I had some problems with the premium site. Keep up the good work.

I don't have a problem with the new blip videos. Well, other than they load up slower than revver, but nothing that I'd complain about, since it's probably just my internet doing that.

Glad to see the new rule with the comments being put in. I'm also tired of seeing stupid comments under the videos.

Oh, and can't wait to see the NChick winner video smilies/smiley.gif
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written by EvilSandwich , September 14, 2008
I have had a few problem with Blip so far, but that mostly because my computer is from the stone age. Nothing major.
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written by Faust , September 14, 2008
Up until now the site has been working great for me, had no problems at all.
And also respect for you mr. Admin for your hard work (I believe you mentioned your name somewhere but I forgot).

I will donate to this site at some point....as soon as I can actually afford it.

Keep up the good work ^_^

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written by Faust , September 14, 2008
Oops it's ont he end of your message

Respect for all your work Mike ^_^
(sorry for the double post)
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written by TheDramaticMonarch , September 14, 2008
So far, I've had no objections to either Revver or Blip. Yeah, Blip might pause on me on occasion but honestly, we should all just be grateful for the hard work Mike puts into this site and the fact that we even get to see these videos and the website in the first place.

I'd love to donate at some point down the road but I'm a smidge tight on cash at the moment.

Thank you so much and keep up the awesome job, Mike! smilies/grin.gif
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written by BabyImplosion , September 14, 2008
nc chick on monday? hope nc guy also gets a video sometime this week. if not, i dont mind the wait.

thanks, admin, for the work your doing. its sure to pay off some day. glad the "you suck" comments will be gone. if it sucks, i would like to know why. as im sure the person who made the video would also like to know. telling someone they suck never really lets the film maker know how to improve, or at least know why that one person thinks there videos suck.
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Blip + Revver
written by Curiosity Inc , September 14, 2008
I haven't really noticed any difference, myself. Revver worked perfectly fine for me, and Blip has no problems either. Granted, there was one time when a Blip video cut out about ten seconds from the end, but that stopped upon repeat viewings and it was just a minor annoyance to begin with.

I'm sure there are some who have issues with either player and those audience members have my sympathies. Still, the admin is right: If you have problems with the site, take it up with the admin himself through PMs. Leave the rest of us out of it.
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i argee with what adamin is saying
written by captinjelly , September 14, 2008
give him a break guys stop moaning about blip,
enjoy whats givein to you

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written by Mr. Vorhias , September 14, 2008
I don't see what the big problem is. Both play videos pretty much equally good.
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written by Monado , September 14, 2008
Honestly, I got pissed for you on what you have to do. Yet shouldn't you get a cut of the money/an assitant to lessen the stress for you? Because I would hate to see you get so pissed that you leave and the site heads downhill.
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written by Alex , September 14, 2008
Stop teasing us, Mike, and tell us the winners already. smilies/cheesy.gif
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written by dady5000 , September 14, 2008
So I imagine that both the new Nostalgia Critic and Nostalgia Chick are supposed to be up soon?


(Cool, if true)
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written by admin , September 15, 2008
Honestly, I got pissed for you on what you have to do. Yet shouldn't you get a cut of the money/an assitant to lessen the stress for you? Because I would hate to see you get so pissed that you leave and the site heads downhill.
I'm the CEO of the company, it would be hard for me to leave in a way smilies/smiley.gif
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written by DrRadon , September 15, 2008
Don´t you ever get mad at the internet again, seriusly - it´s not worth it. Just avoid all the crap (forums and comment boxes sadly are like a fisher net for the dark side of the internet...)

Ad "Just for fun" donations. I´ed love to send you a spare 5er every now and than. I don´t need no extras and it´s higly unlikely that i am able (or willing) to dish out 25$ at once. (this issent open to any discusion on my part, thats just how i feel about this)

Sadly i am mainlee a print designer (web design makes Michael go lala), but if you ever need help to get some 2d merch going give me a call.
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written by Coldguy , September 15, 2008
I'm the CEO of the company, it would be hard for me to leave in a way smilies/smiley.gif


The Buck stops with the might hammer of the God, for he is the wielder of destiny.

That should be under your name on your business card, would fit right in.
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written by Oatmeel , September 15, 2008
Not often on the Internet do you see sites cracking down on people who leave idiotic comments. Just look at Youtube. I think this XKCD comic pretty well sums it up: http://xkcd.com/202/ Thank you, admin.
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written by Demon , September 15, 2008
You are awesome and deserve internet chocolate.

*Gives internet chocolate*

And I'm amazed with this audience that there are so many flaming comments, but also glad that you're cracking down on it here. *cheers on*
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written by whitexnerdy , September 15, 2008
I've never had any problems with Blip and actually find the quality to be better with no annoying advertisement at the bottom. Revver also took a long time to load most of the time, but I didn't care as long as I got to see the videos. It's good that you're taking action against the trolls and n00bs who don't post more than one sentence of saying you suck without offering any constructive criticism or ideas on how to improve. I'd hate to see this site become as bad as YouTube. At least people here don't abuse the comment rating system to silence those who disagree with the mainstream.
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written by BladedEdge123 , September 16, 2008
Just to note, it certainly is possible to offer constructive criticism. The major problem most people have is in the definition. So I offer, if you can't offer coherent reasonable arguements, then don't post! Seriously, your now risking being ban period, is it really worth losing the ability to comment period to tell someone 'OMG U sUk!' or 'OMG this game/movie/review in general is craps why did you review/do it!?' or so forth. If enacting tough regulations helps reduce the stress of running this place, then go for it.

Oh and I think i did mention sometime over, blip seems to have some problems, but so did/does revver. I've had a few problems with both (mostly in terms of loading speed, and all of which can be associated by my rig/fixed by updating my software) I think the admin spelled it out clearly though, some small group of people with whatever service they use, the best they can do is offer multiply places to view the videos (i.e. both blip and revver) and they do! To top it off, if blip pays better? Of course its the way to go. If Revver is delaying payments to the point the website goes down? Yah.

Oh and too the admin. Why don't you start up a monthly donation drive, but it up on the front page or ect. If more people had an idea just how much money this place costs to run per month it would help to make it more obvious? Might not spur many more poeple to donate, but hey if it brings in 20 more dollars, thats 20 less bucks out of your pocket. (Now if only I had a job and thus money to donate period..)
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written by evans-t , September 16, 2008
May I just say that Blip is working fine on my computer. All of the videos on blip are much clearer than the ones of reever, and those really annoying adverts are finally a thing of the past. Seriously, the amount of times I've had to pause the video in order to get rid of those thing was atrocious!

Thanks for all the work that you put into the site, it's greatly appreciated at least by me.
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written by Spectere , September 16, 2008
I'm the CEO of the company, it would be hard for me to leave in a way

At least in that position you can always pass blame down the chain of command. smilies/wink.gif
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written by Aion , September 17, 2008
I'm the CEO of the company, it would be hard for me to leave in a way


Google's gonna buy the stocks, setup an extraordinary meeting, throw you out by having corrupt employees vote for it and make the place a despotic advertisement machine for their partners, trying to sell us poor cyber peeping toms useless shit we couldn't live without !

I know they do, they always do that, GAH ! Poor internets smilies/cry.gif smilies/grin.gif
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written by pidgezero_one , September 17, 2008
You probably don't remember me, but I was bitching on IRC about an ad stopping a video halfway through. I played the video again the next morning and it didn't happen.

I just wrote that as a prelude to say thanks for hearing me out that one time, I didn't want to make it sound like I was being demanding or accusatory or blaming you/Blip for the problem I was having, because I wasn't trying to. Thanks for this update.
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written by solanusdracon , September 17, 2008
There's really only one way that you will be able to maintain any amount of constant money, and that is through merchandising. There needs to be thatguywiththeglasses product to sell. The usual nonsense like t shirts, coffee mugs, coasters and etc. Dvd's would be an excellent way to sell, as a lot of people would love dvd quality video to play on their big screen. It's a very simple and lucrative method of making money, considering it's how Homestarrunner.com completely funds their entire site. See what it is they do, maybe even ask them, and perhaps you can better fund this lovely little distraction we call a website.
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written by BassBone , September 18, 2008
What bugs me is not negative criticism but when a well-written, constructive critical comment gets voted down 50 times because people don't like when someone doesn't like a video. There's nothing bad about constructive criticism, people. Stop voting it down. (Note, I haven't really written anything critical myself. Just sayin'.)
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written by Aion , September 18, 2008
"THAT GUY WHO BITCHES ALL THE TIME", Next show on this website ! smilies/grin.gif
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written by hopewithinchaos , September 18, 2008
All of those troll comments and messages of fixing stuff really must've gotten to you man. then again, I would have gone bat shit crazy before you barely went off your handle like the way you did here. We all Respect your work man, At least those i can vouch for (IE the chat pack). this sites been nothing but amazing on my part, no problems at all. keep up the great work mike, and get some god damn sleep
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written by Geoffrey , September 18, 2008
Hi, Mike! I have to say you do a phenomenal job on managing this site, keeping us informed and making things run smoothly for the vast majority of us. This site is really about "That Guy With The Glasses" but let's not forget about "The Guy In The Treadmill". Thanks for all your effort on behalf of all the Doug-fans in the world!

If you need someone to help out with stuff, just let me know. I'm a fulltime webdeveloper / PHP-professional and I don't mind lending you a hand with stuff if it helps you getting some workload off your back. I believe my e-mail addy is in my profile.

Either way: don't work too hard, Mike. And screw all those whiners who can't take care of their own computer problems.

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written by Maverick21 , September 20, 2008
i use Firefox, i have a high speed comcast connection on a dell dimension xps gen4 desktop with an Intel Pentium processor , the system info page says 4CPU, 3.6GHz, 3.59 Ghz, 1.00gb of RAM. i have the standard mcafee security that comes with aol and my internet is atleast a t1 lan, and i live in THe USA near chicago (which probably helps alot) I am posting this because i have had 0 problems with revver or blip and i think they're both fine from a viewers standpoint. i'm guessing knowing the stats of a computer that has no problems might help you help ones that do
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written by DistantJ , September 22, 2008
Never had any problems with site site over here. I mean it went from YouTube to some other flash embed to Revver to blip, always seems to work, though.

The only problem I ever had was that the dropdown menus from the navigation bar go behind the embedded video (Firefox 3, Windows Vista).
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written by Gamechamp , September 26, 2008
Unfortunately, I happen to be one of the few with Blip problems. The video goes super laggy and not that pleasing to watch. Oh well. If it's better for the creator of the video, it's the best choice.

And thanks for linking to Revver, too. =]
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written by blushapple , September 30, 2008
It's unfortunate that so many people on this site are unnappreciative bastards. This site is initially free and even if you donate, no one made you. (I would love to donate but I unfortunately am broke at this very second and will be until all the details of my new job settles). You obviously work very hard and I just hope you know that there are tons of users who appreciate all the work you do. If we could, we'd gladly castrate anyone who had the balls to insult you to your face - they obviously don't have their priorities in line.

This big audience is nice, but unfortunately, idiots are going to come along with them. At least you know that the only way to shut them up is to ban them from commenting altogether. Most admins on other sites just give them "warnings" and it never stops. This is probably the cleanest site I've ever seen as far as idiocy in comments goes. I commend you for that.
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written by Bagu , October 01, 2008
I would think that with the current state of things, you could find thousands of things to complain about.
Having issues with a website would be very minor, and not worth mentioning.
But, what do I know.
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written by Daikun , October 02, 2008
Personally, I'm glad that you guys switched to Blip. A lot of other websites (you guys aren't alone) have been moving away from Revver as that site got worse over time.

Revver used to be the best alternative to YouTube, but I think overconsumption got to their service. Thanks for switching!
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written by Phirone , October 04, 2008
I don't have anything against blip it works on other sides like cinemassacre... just here it doesn't work for me.
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written by Ultrafamicom64 , October 15, 2008
Both video formats (blip & revver) have thier problems, but it's nothing to complain about guys. I'm just summarizing part of the important update, FYI.
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written by EdwinsGeneration , October 17, 2008
IT aint easy managing a site!! people don't mean to be stupid on here! everytime someone trolls my videos on youtube, and i confront them... they usually feel stupid and you can tell because when i confront them they say something like "Oh ..you have a point there." or "Well at first I didn't like it, but its cool now" WTF trolls just gotta relax and not watch videos when pissed or "TO BLOW OFF STEAM"!
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written by JSHADOWM , October 19, 2008
Thanks for keeping the site top-notch, Admin! smilies/cheesy.gif

Fans could not ask for a better person than you! smilies/grin.gif

Keep up the good work with the site! smilies/cool.gif
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written by Wendell , November 03, 2008
these days of you suck style comets are over...


YAY!

Seriously this makes me sooo happy, glad we have an active moderator in this community. now unleash your BAN-HAMMER uppon the dumb-asses smilies/grin.gif
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written by catman123 , November 10, 2008
wow you must love doing this a lot to put 50+hours.
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