Ep 41: THOR!
Written by Dr. Gonzo Thursday, 12 May 2011 21:28
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05.13.2011 - 04:45 | Eric the Orange
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05.13.2011 - 07:43 | DoctriniusWelcome back, and welcome to the two new contributors. Good to have you back.
I've yet to see Thor, but it sounds like I should give it a watch this weekend.
Exepct for the aforementioned edit slip-up, this was a very entertaining episode. A lot of fun references and great lines, Roo especially was on a roll in this one!
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If you wish to learn about norse mythology, I such you start here, http://www.youtube.com/ watch? v=0_OBq865VjI&feature=rel ated
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05.14.2011 - 16:48 | Crunchy_FrogWell, the Thor comics or Thor movie have nothing whatsofuckingever in common with the Norse Edda. Not in regard to the story, or the characters, or the characters' background story, or anything. Those characters who wear names from the Edda (like Thor, Odin, Loki, Sif, Heimdall, Laufey, Frigga) do not in any way resemble the characters in the Edda.
Half of the Aesir (NOT Asgardians, dammit) characters in the movie were made up anyway, such as Thor's little gang of sycophants: The token Asian guy, the annoying token action girl with that permanent sneer on her face, the token comic relief fat red-bearded guy named Volstagg, and... whatever the blond musketeer guy was supposed to be. Those characters were taken straight from the animated Thor series for kids, and it showed. They were so one-dimensional compared to the rest, and reminded me of an arrogant high school gang with Thor as their jock leader, and with Loki as his scrawny introverted social outcast geek brother who plays D&D and excels in science courses.
Hey, technically the Volstagg guy was more in line with how THor is described in the Edda, down to the big red beard and the beer.
In light of that, the script writers specifically refering to Norse mythology in the Thor movie by having one character pull out a book about the Edda is rather cheeky.
Especially considering how the movie's Sif was black-haired, while Sif in the Edda is 1) Thor's wife, and 2) golden-blonde, which is actually important, her being the goddess of the harvest, with hair "as golden as the ripe grain". Which means that in the Edda story about how Loki shaved off Sif's golden hair down to stubble after sleeping with her while Thor was away, Loki actually did not do a mean-spirited thing, but he did the mythologically correct thing: He sowed the seed, and then cut the grain for harvest. Not to mention afterwards, after Loki had been beaten up by an angry Thor, Loki went to the dwarves where he got Sif new hair spun from living gold.
But then, in the Norse Edda, Loki is not only the funniest of the gods and in the end the one with most tragical fate, but also the one with the most stories featuring him. Without Loki, the Aesir and Vanir in Asgard would not have all their magical toys, there would be no wall around Asgard, Odin would not have his horse Sleipnir. Loki is a shapeshifter, an inventor, the god of the hearthfire. But then, the Loki in the Edda is bloodbrother of Odin, he is mischievous, roguish, sarcastic and charming, sleeping with all the women, while the Loki in the movie is rather introverted, twitchier and quieter, due to the comics changing his whole backstory. He's a totally different character, really. In the Edda, Loki is a child of giants, yes, but he also has two brothers, and Laufey is his mother's name, Farbauti his father.
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I'm sure the Prose Edda and the Verse Edda are available online in English translation somewhere. (I only know the German translation, can't say how good the English one is.)
Still, I think the Thor movie works rather well as a Marvel superheroes comic book adaption.
(At least the movie's Loki was not flat-out evil. Poor Loki the trickster god always gets the short stick, whenever Norse mythology gets adapted to a Christian worldview, while Odin, god of war and death and inventor of runes who is more of a Gandalf-the-Grey figure in the Edda is turned into the "Allfather", the wise old friendly New Testament father God.)
Really, I was pleasantly surprised how Kenneth Branagh worked with the material. The costumes were cool. And Tom Hiddleston as Loki was amazing.
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05.13.2011 - 08:36 | Cferra
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05.13.2011 - 10:10 | IntFam
So...uh...there was some weird editing business there. I can count at least two parts that were clearly slated for editing (Bryan repeating himself at the end of his news segment and the checking imdb for actor lists) that were left in.
Other than that, a good return show. I love the new correspondents and can't wait to hear more.
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There were actually two cuts made of this episode, the one posted here, and a clean final cut made after I realized I'd overlooked some things. However, since my brain had evidently decided to take a vacation that day, I mistakenly uploaded the "blooper reel" cut, and deleted the final cut, and didn't realize anything was wrong until I read Eric the Orange's comment.
Unfortunately, at this point, there's nothing I can do to save this episode, but my word is given that triple checks will be done in the future. Also, when we finally have our own website (yes, we are working on it!) A new clean cut of this episode will be present there in our archives.
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05.13.2011 - 16:11 | jalford
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05.14.2011 - 16:37 | Crunchy_FrogI agree that the parts of the movie that were set in New Mexico were dreadfully boring. They only served as set-up to the upcoming Avengers movie. Oh well. Honestly, I'd like to see a Thor sequel rather than the Avengers movie.