Let's Play Heavy Rain Part 03
Written by Benzaie Monday, 01 March 2010 03:00
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03.01.2010 - 03:21 | celestria420
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Wow, an armed robbery, a woman in her underware, a serial killer. How could you make a game from these elements that sucked? Why, Heavy Rain of course!
Edit: Sorry, I guess boring would be better than sucks. Seriously, clicking End Turn in Civilization seems more rewarding than this game. At least you are accomplishing something.
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03.01.2010 - 04:25 | too.dark.parkThis game looks like such a joke, haha.
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03.01.2010 - 08:54 | anticomuna[quote]This game looks like such a joke, haha.[/quote]
Cry more, fanboy. This game is an instant classic. This will be remembered as one of the best games of this generation for the years to come.
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03.01.2010 - 16:58 | mrskippy
Actually, anticmuna, you sound more like a fanboy. All too.dark.park was doing (if i am interpreting his statement correctly) is congratulating Benzaie on his success in making his Let's Play funny. I agree that he could have worded it better if that's what he meant, but that's no reason to attack him as a "fanboy."
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You do realize a Fanboy is someone who mindlessly defends something no matter how valid the critisism. While mister too.dark.park did not leave valid critisism, you did not say anything more concreate to counter him.
Why will this game be an instant classic? What makes it better than other games of this generation? Try harder next time, please.
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03.01.2010 - 23:34 | too.dark.parkDidn't leave any valid criticism? I think the evidence speaks for itself -- its a cinematic QTE where you can somehow FAIL a task as menial and inane as GETTING OUT OF A CHAIR.
This is not a revolution.
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03.02.2010 - 14:36 | too.dark.parkAre you the hall monitor or something? No offense but give me a break dude. Far as I see it,
ANY comment which uses proper english is doing better than 95% of the internet.
I'd be more interested in hearing why its NOT a joke. I'm still in disbelief that I got flamed for flaming ... this. I wonder if the case comes soaked in kerosene with a pack of matches.
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03.01.2010 - 23:34 | too.dark.parkI'm not crying, I'm laughing. At how dumb this game looks.
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03.11.2010 - 21:13 | ImagineTheEndingActually, I am going to have to agree with this and not agree with the "this game sucks" comments I've been reading.
If I'm not taking a large leap, I believe Benzaie has remarked that he is making a spoof of this game. These videos are not legit reviews, so it can't be taken seriously as such.
Yes there are mundane things in the game as getting out of a chair, but those parts of the game are little details that add onto the big picture. For instance (spoiler) the scene where Ethan is trying to avoid head on traffic might be incredibility difficult for some players. That and if we have a lot of "interesting scenes" everything is going to become a big rush. Small things is what helps people relate to characters. It is also what makes scenes like choosing between life and death (literally) seem more powerful.
Also, this game is different than other popular games. Because of that there is going to be a few things to complain about.
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As a matter of fact, this game is ment to be more story related than gameplay related, almost like an interactive movie. I know there might be some stiff movements, or lame-ass controlls but if you pay attention you can at least enjoy the game a bit.
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03.01.2010 - 04:28 | Spencer Bedlam
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03.01.2010 - 04:47 | stevenrkoreaBlack out and wake up 3 days later married to a 17 year old prostitute...if only I had a dollar for every...
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03.01.2010 - 04:50 | Amdor
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03.01.2010 - 06:26 | Metalscavenger'burning my eyes will wake me up
EEAAH!'
roflmao xD
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03.01.2010 - 06:40 | dennett316
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03.01.2010 - 06:51 | BabyImplosion
nice play-through so far.
"seeing how I don't know this girl, she may deserve this. so i'll just let them have my way with me"
hilarious.
should of went to bathroom first. she takes a shower! and a piss! if you control her to, of course.
theres still two other chances in the game (from my experience with how i played it) that you get to see her boobs.
sad to say, only had one chance in the game to piss with her. so, may of missed on that. and only one chance to piss with the private investigator.
not fair. main character whats-his-face (ethan?) gets like 3 times in the game where its optional to take a piss. 2 of the other playable characters only get 1 (again, from my experience with it. different actions may effect more or less piss-takes)
and the FBI guy, I don't think I ever got to piss with him! probably cause i missed too many buttons and killed him. playing a second time, though. to see if i can piss with him.
my most major complaint with the game is I didn't get the chance to take a piss with the FBI guy.
and ethan got two showers in the game. this girl only got 1. the 2 others didn't even get one shower!
so unfair.
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03.02.2010 - 12:53 | QuestionTheMajority
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Some of the posts here criticizing this game can only be from fanboys who will never have the opportunity of playing it.
[b]The game is brilliant in every way.[/b] It reminds me of PC adventure games, but it manages to involve you in a way that no game and no movie can.
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03.01.2010 - 09:32 | VoidKeeperNo, adventure games have interesting puzzles, have a decent plot and are actually fun to play.
I'd rather play LOOM 10 times instead of this half-way through. Not to mention ANY of the monkey island games or legend of kyrandia.
This game suffers from the same problem as many of the adventure games that exist, it's boring, the plot is crap, the puzzles are weak, it just plain sucks. Out of all the adventure games that were good, there were probably 10 times more that sucked.
Oh and let's not forget beneath a steel sky and Grim Fandango, THOSE were fantastic games, This is just a crappy adventure game, if you can even call this crap adventure, with useless reaction time events. big. friggin. deal.
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03.01.2010 - 10:16 | anticomunaThis game does have an excellent plot ([b]one of the best in the history of videogames[/b]), interesting puzzles (which I can't give examples without spoiling them for those who haven't played it) and it is [b]VERY[/b] fun to play. [b]You haven't seen anything yet.[/b]
What kind of criticism is that? Is this an in depth exploration of why something is not good or it is just a knee jerk reaction from a fanboy?
Sorry if I am presuming too much about your person, but if you can't build a few coherent sentences explaining your ideas in a way that other human beings can decode then [b]that's how you deserve to be treated[/b].
The time events are just in action sequences, other than that you can roam free. And even then it is more to decide to outcome of an action, because there are always multiple possibilities, than just pressing buttons.
It means that you won't automatically die every time you miss an event, but something else could happen instead.
This gameplay is very effective to give the player a tactile feel to the game. [b]Pay attention now[/b]: it means you get to feel closer to the characters. Especially in situations of danger [b]where your heart will almost jump through your mouth[/b]. The sixaxis help it even more because you will actually have to move in some cases, getting tired and making your heart go faster.
The creator claimed that he wanted to create an emotional rollercoaster. Well, he succeeded at it.
This game will be remembered as one of the best of this generation.
I am not sure why fanboys feel the need to go out of their way just to rain on someone else's parade. Dude, if you are happy with some other system, then stay there and be happy. Don't waste everybody's time talking about a game you can't even play.
Serously, WTF!
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03.01.2010 - 18:25 | mrskippy
I really think that you are confused as to what "fanboy" means. "Fanboy" is a term used to describe those who have absolute loyalty to something ambivalent to said loyalty; for example, those who continue to insist that the Dreamcast was the pinnacle of console gaming. Taking into account the fact that you believe that this game has no flaws and staunchly support it, even though most who like the game would admit that the times when there are no real choices (either put the SD card in the cell or the mobile) are rather pointless, indicates that you, in fact, are the fanboy in this situation. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that this is a bad game or criticizing you for liking it; I'm merely trying to educate you in the prober use of a term that you seem to misuse frequently.
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03.02.2010 - 12:55 | QuestionTheMajority
I own a PS3 and every opportunity to play this game, but I have to say that just sitting down to watch a movie involving badly animated mannequins and pressing a controller button when prompted does not entertainment make, in my opinion. Sorry, but I've got to say this one looks pretty dull and I'll stick to my usual fare of outlandish and silly video games. And I thought that even before watching Benzaie's parody here.
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03.01.2010 - 09:20 | JimmydelaKopin
This episode is, once again, proof that current gamemakers are allowed to play with too much memory to make a decent game.
If the only place one can put the chip is into the phone, then why not have the cutscene show Ethan picking up the chip and putting it into the phone without making putting it into the phone as its own QTE? It's unnecessary gameplay that overcomplicates what should be a relatively simple game.
(Sheesh, Infocom's [i]Deadline[/i] is more complicated than this game in terms of plot!)
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03.01.2010 - 10:20 | anticomuna[quote]This episode is, once again, proof that current gamemakers are allowed to play with too much memory to make a decent game.
If the only place one can put the chip is into the phone, then why not have the cutscene show Ethan picking up the chip and putting it into the phone without making putting it into the phone as its own QTE? It's unnecessary gameplay that overcomplicates what should be a relatively simple game.[/quote]
So far I have only seen the proof that people love to talk out of their asses.
The quick time events actually serve a purpose here. When they are not also a deciding factor in a sequence, they at least serve as a means to interact with the environment.
For example, in a point and click PC adventure game how would you interact with objects? Clicking on them or selecting them from the inventory?
[b]The concept is the same, but using QTEs.[/b]
Now if someone made the exact same game using a mouse you wouldn't be talking crap.
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The only thing the killers letter was missing is, "I want to play a game" seriously! and it's not even a good rip-off, it's just crap. it's also amazing that the most enjoyable scene in the is game, was when Ethan was making people fall over only by touch... amazing... great game guys (sarcasm...)
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[quote=anticomuna]Some of the posts here criticizing this game can only be from fanboys who will never have the opportunity of playing it.
[b]The game is brilliant in every way.[/b] It reminds me of PC adventure games, but it manages to involve you in a way that no game and no movie can.[/quote]
I find it amusing that you call others "fanboys" when you are being one yourself. Good stuff. As for involving you in a way that no game or movie has... have you ever heard of the Myst series? This game while attempting to be something new and interesting simply falls short. You can play this entire game without completing any of the QTEs. The game plays itself. How exactly is that interactivity? Even with that set aside there are numerous glitches to be found within the game. One of the most common is at times when you press anything during a cut scene you have a chance of the game locking up in the following sequence. It happens more often than not in the Fugitive chapter. Simply saying this game will be a "classic" because it is different is just foolish. But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I guess I'm just another one of those "fanboys" because I don't like this game... :S Logic FTW
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03.01.2010 - 10:34 | anticomuna[quote]I find it amusing that you call others "fanboys" when you are being one yourself. Good stuff.[/quote]
I am the one giving actual explanations and you are the ones saying "This game sucks" and that's it.
Which one would you think are the fanboys?
I don't find it good, I find it extremely bad that literacy have fallen so low these days and in the Twitter age people lost the ability of thinking in more than a few words.
[quote]As for involving you in a way that no game or movie has... have you ever heard of the Myst series? This game while attempting to be something new and interesting simply falls short. You can play this entire game without completing any of the QTEs. The game plays itself. How exactly is that interactivity? [/quote]
The game has multiple endings. If you fail the QTEs different outcomes will occur and, guess what, the bad guy wins!
What did you expect? A "Game over" screen?
You play the game and you make the choices. There is a predefined structure, but that exists in [b]ANY VIDEOGAME[/b].
Can you choose not to fight and go in some random direction in search for hot dogs in Call of Duty? No, right? Why? Because most games are as linear as going from point A to point B with everything scripted in between.
In this game you can actually choose and face the consequences.
I already explained in another post how this is interactive, go and look for it.
[quote]Even with that set aside there are numerous glitches to be found within the game. One of the most common is at times when you press anything during a cut scene you have a chance of the game locking up in the following sequence. It happens more often than not in the Fugitive chapter. Simply saying this game will be a "classic" because it is different is just foolish.[/quote]
Foolish is not being able to verbalize why the game supposedly "sucks". Oh, let me guess, it is fashionable to trash things, right?
As for glitches, many games have them and I don't see people trashing them. Bugs are fixed, although I didn't have any freeze or any problem during my playthroughs.
[quote]
But hey, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I guess I'm just another one of those "fanboys" because I don't like this game... :S Logic FTW[/quote]
No, it is because you can't produce logical sentences explaining yourself.
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03.01.2010 - 10:25 | Furluge
Maybe, just maybe, they're saying it doesn't look fun because it... gasp... doesn't look fun. So far the game's looking to me like a really crappy Dragon's Lair without the wow factor of full motion in a video game in 1983.
[img]http:// www.gamasutra.com/ features/20070504/ dragons-lair-hd-1.jpg[/ img]
.oO(If only people knew about my invisible piss super-power)Oo.
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03.22.2010 - 16:25 | BananaJane
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[quote=Furluge] So far the game's looking to me like a really crappy Dragon's Lair without the wow factor of full motion in a video game in 1983.[/quote]
It looks like that to you because you have no idea what you are talking about.
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03.01.2010 - 11:02 | Furluge
Yeah you're totally right that doesn't look like Heavy Rain at all. It needs be brown, because reality is brown! And it needs Katrina Rain! Perfect!
[img]http:// members.cox.net/furluge/ Heavy%20Rain%20Dirk.jpg[/ img]
Uh oh! Watch out Dirk! Kaz Hirai and his PS3 grill are trying to strike your weak point for massive damage!
See, you want to be that way, I can do it too. B)
PS: Camping the post and downvoting anyone who disagrees with you is kinda dickish. Just saying.
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[quote=Furluge]Yeah you're totally right that doesn't look like Heavy Rain at all.[/quote]
No, it doesn't. You haven't played the game and you don't know how it works.
This is an adventure game, so both types are very different. You are actually in control of what happens, with the exception of the action sequences where the QTEs serve more as a decision factor than a success/failure situation.
You won't necessary "lose" if you miss an event or choose not to do anything.
Even if the characters die, the story continues.
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[quote=Furluge]It needs be brown, because reality is brown![/quote]
And, BTW, you must have vision problems. The game uses the color palette. If the police station or Ethan's home from the beginning of the game are not well lit then WTF are they?
The same for the other scenes. Very well done.
You are running out of BS.
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03.01.2010 - 11:12 | anticomunaFlooding the comment section with pics in order to prevent people from reading the comments you don't like should be a bannable offense.
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03.02.2010 - 13:04 | QuestionTheMajority
Three pictures! That's a veritable deluge! I've got to hand it to you, anticomuna, your ongoing battle here in the comments is almost as funny as Benzaie's videos themselves! You should be the new member of the Channel Awesome team!
Seriously, man. Who cares if people like or dislike the same game you do? I like Katamari Damacy, for cryin' out loud and I get mocked for it all the time. Couldn't care less either. Get a backbone and stop worrying about how much you fit in with the world around you.
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03.01.2010 - 12:10 | Dreadwing
How about flooding the comment section with tons of fanboy crap bitching about how everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot? Sorry, but it seems you're just about the only one who feels the way you do about Heavy Rain - including myself. This game is just painful. They could have done so much more with QTE's than "Ooh, look, you can interact with the environment! Pay us $60 to do so!" Why would I? There is literally nothing gained by screwing around with the environment than a distraction. If you do that it makes the story irrelevant, and if you just play the game (or have it play itself, as it were) then the QTEs are useless.
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[quote=Dreadwing]How about flooding the comment section with tons of fanboy crap bitching about how everyone who disagrees with you is an idiot? Sorry, but it seems you're just about the only one who feels the way you do about Heavy Rain - including myself. This game is just painful. They could have done so much more with QTE's than "Ooh, look, you can interact with the environment! Pay us $60 to do so!" Why would I? There is literally nothing gained by screwing around with the environment than a distraction. If you do that it makes the story irrelevant, and if you just play the game (or have it play itself, as it were) then the QTEs are useless.[/quote]
The reception of this game, by the critics (I mean the real ones, not you) and players was overwhelmingly positive. [b]You are part of the minority here.[/b]
I seriously doubt that you have actually played the game. If you did then you would have more precise things to say about it.
You lack basic understanding about how the game works. The story progresses regardless of what you choose, [b]because that's the whole damn point of the game![/b] An adventure game with multiple choices and consequences.
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03.01.2010 - 13:25 | projoe719srise
Its basicly like what Bennett, said it would requier a certain taste but sets an example for future games to use machanics like ouicktime for something other than making a game longer, just see his review to understand I'm not very good at explaining. but I will say we once had a console that had not but these type of games, the sega cd with that I can understand them being sceptical but the sega cd did have some good games hidden in the overwhelming library of bad games with that aside if you play indigo prohecy and enjoyed it then you wont have much truble enjoying this game as well.
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03.01.2010 - 14:29 | BabyImplosion
im in my second playthrough of the game, and what you do really has little effect. all it effects is really just the ending.
if you choose to do something different, they may throw in a new scene, but then you soon find yourself right back in the same order as previous scene you've played on first go-through. or, they may take a scene away depending on what you do.
nothing too much a deal about changing events. all they do is just change the outcome. which, you can easily youtube.
still, i must say, the first time playing it was very fun.
and it is still sorta fun to dick around a 2nd or maybe 3rd time going through the game.
sadly the game does forces you into doing stuff. like how benzaie pointed out earlier, "i didn't even go in the bathroom, the game is playing itself again!"
i understand the limitations and why you can't got batshit crazy with numerous outcomes at every single little scene, im just saying ya may wanna hold off on saying the "every action you do the game has different reaction.". like i said, really just the ending that changes. and a few new scenes may pop up, but really nothing important (my thoughts)
also, characters can die at any time?
i've tried to kill 2 important fartknockers, and im on the "fugitive" chapter!
its like they can't die!
now, more minor characters to the story, i have had 1 of them die (by accident)
but the two major characters seem to be invincible.
then again, not yet done with my 2nd playthrough. so, hopefully they will prove me wrong and die.
anyways, yes, fun, great game. definitely not recommend to people who must have action every second of a game.
i didn't find it to be as high-praised as you may of put it, but certainly doesn't deserve people saying "this game sucks."
i can understand, though. watching someone play it and not actually playing it yourself, i can see where there coming from.
they should watch this for benzaie's funny antics, not for serious talk on the game.
which i believe benzaie has already stated at the beginning of this playthrough that this is not a serious video.
people should just sit back and laugh, then go out and rent it and see if its something they may enjoy. took me about 2 days to beat. so, definitely rent it, any ps3 owners.
actually, if you own a ps3. should go rent it now. then watch the rest of the playthrough. whats so fun about going through it once is wondering where it will go next and who IS the origami killer.
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03.22.2010 - 16:26 | BananaJane
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03.01.2010 - 13:46 | Emperor_ZI finished Heavy Rain a few nights ago. Unforgettable gaming experience. If you have a PS3, you MUST play through this game, at least once. I don't know if Benzaie actually hates this game or not, but don't let him, or the trolls, dictate your opinion. At least give it a rent. You won't regret it
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A lot of arguing has been happening in the comments concerning whether or not this game is good, but I read through some reviews of this game. A lot of them say that the game starts off slow. So for anyone who says it sucks, it should get better, so be a little more patient. But can we please stop insulting people who don't like the game? (anticomuna) The comments are there to express opinions, so let's respect each other and enjoy Benzai's playthrough.
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03.01.2010 - 14:55 | Chris P Bacon
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03.01.2010 - 15:09 | droppingpenny
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03.02.2010 - 13:07 | QuestionTheMajority
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03.01.2010 - 15:09 | Kylelolcat
Before you downvote me to oblivion, let me mention that I have played the demo. I am grounding my opinion on the demo, not the game, so maybe it all of a sudden gets better...but I doubt it.
The graphics: I'll admit, these are BEAUTIFUL graphics. You have to give Heavy Rain this: it looks good.
The gameplay: Maybe I just have better reactions than Benzaie, but I didn't do much spasming in the demo. The only issue was when I tried to turn the camera and took off my glasses.
Speaking of which: Whose idea was it to mess up the control scheme? I can understand r-stick to interact: they need it for directional quicktimes. However, L-stick is for the camera, and r2 is to walk. This feels INCREDIBLY awkward. Plus, you can't run most of the time, and, like Benzaie said, you control like a forklift. WALKING DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
Story: I didn't really feel that into it. Some parts were, ok, but I don't feel really pressured by choices and my own choice: Save the selfish mother who won't go on her deal, or let her get mugged? hmmm... eh, she'd probably just tell me to go **** myself again, so whatever. *walk away*
While I do want to play Heavy Rain, $60 sounds liek too much. Maybe $20 or $30.
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[quote=borderlands42]A lot of arguing has been happening in the comments concerning whether or not this game is good, but I read through some reviews of this game. A lot of them say that the game starts off slow. So for anyone who says it sucks, it should get better, so be a little more patient. But can we please stop insulting people who don't like the game? (anticomuna) The comments are there to express opinions, so let's respect each other and enjoy Benzai's playthrough. [/quote]
Absolutely. I'm not really interested in getting into a pointless flame war on the Internet. In the interest of ending the fight, I think I will try (once) to explain to anticommuna, troll though I think he is, why I feel the why I do and give him some more perspective on my thinking. I was pretty vague last time I commented.
For one, you're absolutely correct. I have not purchased or played the game. I am basing my opinions entirely on previews, reviews, and now the content that I'm seeing in Benzaie's Let's Play. While I do find him entertaining, I'm putting his jokes aside and looking at the content as well, for one very good reason:
This is the Internet-era version of going to a friend's house and checking out his new game to see if it's worth buying myself, and playing. Since I don't have a friend who owns Heavy Rain, Benzaie works for me as a surrogate, because at the least he's showing me the content of the game.
Why do I do this? Because games today cost $60 apiece, at least on consoles, and unlike PC games, prices on console games drop very slowly. So, no matter what I'm going to be sinking a lot of cash into this game, especially in today's world. I don't have access to a lot of money, so I can't afford to play very many new games. Therefore, I try to make sure that the game I buy, I'm actually going to enjoy.
Now, let's take a look at Heavy Rain. While I didn't read every single preview and pre-review of the game, at no point do I recall being told that I won't have a lot of input into how the story goes. Nor was I warned that the pacing would be this slow. I mean, it seems agonizingly monotonous at times. Yes, it's realistic, and in a novel, it'd be perfect. But nobody said this was in the "Interactive Novel" genre, which apparently exists. From what I had read and seen up to this point, Heavy Rain seemed like an action filled game with tons of emotional depth and gameplay elements like no other.
So, I ask: Have we seen that yet? Not really. Things are starting to pick up a little, and comments promise that the action gets more intense later. However, I have a serious problem with the pacing of the story at the beginning. Sure, it does a good job of setting up the characters and the beginning of the plot for a novel, but the trouble is, it just doesn't look fun to me. In fact, it seems to be a tenuous example of Earn Your Fun (http://tvtropes.org/ pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...
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03.01.2010 - 15:44 | Paper_BanjokamiJesus Benzaie, do you have to screw everything up? I mean that Jizz in my Pants bit actually made me laugh very loudly, but I dunno. It'd be nice to see how the game would play out for someone who wasn't fucking around, or sucked. I'll be fine if you make it funny though.
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03.01.2010 - 16:01 | ThatGirlInThePJs
I've been watching these vids as you put them up and I love them XD You are so funny! Funny thing is I saw this game when I went out to get another game for my new PS3 and I actually bought it and have allready beaten it twice XDD I think I' addicted to it, lol. Keep up the LP of this game Benzaie I wanna see what choices you make and how your version ends