've been a fan since the first Civilization came out for DOS. I Love this series.Somehow, I still find the original game, with all of its limitations to be the best.

I love this franchise, and I love how it consumes hours and hours of my life. =D

Good God man...time waster is an understatement, haha. I purposely don't start playing Civ 5 before 7pm, otherwise I accomplish nothing during the day.

It does consume hours and hours of life! =)
I mean in order to play one long version of the Civ 3 (Conquests) game it took me 23 hours! Yet, If I had those 23 hours left back, I would use it to play Civ 3 (Conquests)!

Considering picking in it up =D

But I heard that there is a lot of computer requirements like Spoony had to upgrade x.x

[quote=RolePlayHumor] Considering picking in it up =D

But I heard that there is a lot of computer requirements like Spoony had to upgrade x.x[/quote]

Yes, I remember when civ 4 came out, I had to build a new computer, because my crappy computer at the time wasn't even close to meeting the games prerequisites, I hope I don't have to repeat that process. XD

I've played Civ III and become addicted to it. One major change is the interaction with the leader of a civ--that's cool how they've changed it to a little movie. :) Glad to know the stack-fests are gone, too!

SCIEEEEEEEEENCE!

WAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR!! !!!!

WAAAGH!

YA this game is great lol im a big fan of this serie lol in took so many hour of my life and i think it will do even more whit civ 5

Oh god, civ 5. Well there goes the next few months of my life :zombie:

Oh man, I seriously laughed at the unconfident nerd bit. "Our...our production of knowledge...uh...is the lowest in the world, sir. Uh..."

Also: "S...sub...scribe, bitches!"

you need to get Dr.Insano for a SCIENCE!! adviser

yeah like everytime he pops up "why dont we build something spectacular maybe something that sparkles ....... ATOM BOMB !"
and next time "We need more ATOM BOMBS !!!!!"

Seriously Civ 5s requirements...WHY ARE THEY SO HIGH!? A Quad core processor...4 gbs of ram...for recommended...dual core at least and 2 gbs of ram for minimal? Damn man wtf lol looking at the graphics and game play. I love PC games I love RTS games but when they jack up requirements like that and rape your wallet just to be able to play the game it sucks. Luckily Starcraft 2 thought about that...lol

i remember playing the xbox version of civ and lovin it. i might check this game out.[color=fuchsia][/ color][size=x-large][/ size]

You should definitely grab this one over 4. 4 is pretty damn complex compared to revolution, but 5 seems to be a streamlined middle ground.

:flame: WWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAARRRRRR RRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [size=x-large][/size] [color=black][/color] :grr:

Glad to see you could change your mind about Civ games; welcome, brother!
(Of course, I still need to get the game... I loved Civ4 but I'm too unemployed to drop money on the sequel). T_T

I've heard a lot of long-time Civ fans complain about this game. I've not played the Civ games before this one either, but nearly every older civilization fan I speak to is either disappointed or outright pissed off at this new version.

The only thing I hear from them is that it's too dumbed down for the sake of inviting new players into the experience, and that it lacks the depth the older games had. Diplomacy - one of the things Joe complained about - also sounds like it was handled better. Combat has been improved, but it sounds like everything else has suffered for the sake of simplifying the game for new players to get in to, at the cost of alienating their previous fanbase.

If you're a veteran Civilization fan, I urge you to speak to others before picking up this game. You might feel like you wasted your money and end up going back to Civ 4. However, for newer Civ fans like me and Joe, I can say first hand that this game is an excellent introduction to the series. I'm probably going to buy Civ 4 now, because of what I hear from long-time fans about how it's an overall better game, just less newbie-friendly.

I'll tell you bro, I played the crap out of the second one, and missed out until Revolution. After playing that game on xbl (happened to get a new computer soon afterward) I picked up 4 and was completely overwhelmed my first few games. On the other-hand, I'm already on emperor on 5. They're both really fun, and quite frankly the only thing I'm missing is the ability to undermine rivals near your borders with religion.

My computer's basic requirements should be able to handle the game, but I would desperately need to upgrade my graphics card. Man, this game is demanding, but it looks to be worth it!

Hey Joe, you can easily track who you are at war with by clicking the left most button of the three big buttons on the top right of the screen. Also anyone who is "Hostel" towards you will not accept any trades, that could have been your problem with Elizabeth.

As somebody who began his long oddyssy of playing the Civilization franchise with Civ II Multy-Player GoldEdition, You don't know how happy seeing those old FMV advisiors made me. I've started digging into Civ V and I have mixed feelings about it, though mostly positive at this point.

Good review. And good luck to you getting another one done in the near future. Or playing anything but Civ V for the next few weeks.

I laughed my ass off, thank you Joe, thank you.

SCIENCE!
But yeah, I played Civ IV once on my friend's computer. For 7 hours.

Anywho, any idea if it'll be available for the Mac?

I've played this game for ten straight hours! That never happens anymore. Amazing game, 10/10 from a more modest guy like me.

Hahahahaha!!! Joe!!! I always love your little skits!!! When you're having fun with your characters and your silly, witty dialogue, I always have fun too! MORE!!! XD

Dance, Joe, Dance!

WAAAAR!!!

It's good to see that the core from the first game (Colonization for DOS) is still there, but at a first glance it looks like a carbon copy of Civilization II.

All the things Joe talked about here were present in CivII, except for the 1 unit/square-limit.
The advisors never told you what to do, they advised you when you wanted them to (there was a menu for that).

I guess I'll just have to buy the game and try it out :psychotic:

Was hoping to see Dr. Insano going SCIENCE there , good review seems like i will give it a shot , i just played civ III and didint like it that much , but the syst requirements are quite huge o_O fortunately i can run the game barely XB see ya on the next angry joe show joe.

Well, technically, your advisors do tell you what you should do, and also on what to build, but they're much more in the background, in a menu in the top-right, but it is a lot more anemic esp. compared to Civ IV. In fact, a lot of diehard Civ fans are complaining that they changed a lot from Civ IV, including the much more in-depth diplomacy and a lot of details like religion, which no longer is a factor, and spying, which is also completely removed. The problem with those features was that they took up too much time and resources, because basically with religion you had to attempt to please every other ruler who wanted you to join their religion, and there were a ton of problems you'd run into if some of your cities got converted to other religions, such as lowered production, etc. The problem is that they didn't bother to fix these problems, they just took them out of the game, which seems kind of childish. From what I've heard from developers, a lot of the inspiration for this game was "Civilization: Revolution," the console game they put out a few years ago. The problem with that was that that game was ridiculously watered down, and if you beat one game, you beat them all. Here though, I think there is a lot more depth, and you're right, it is EXTREMELY ADDICTING.

However, I think the biggest flaw is that the civilizations are incredibly unbalanced because of their bonuses. For example, if you play as the Germans, you automatically can get a huge army at the beginning of the game, since your bonus is that you have a 50/50 chance of having barbarians join your side if you defeat them in their camp. If you have barbarians popping up even at the default rate, this means you can have an enormous army very quickly, without spending any money - in fact, you GET money every time this happens. If they're just warriors and you're in the modern age, just bring them into your territory and upgrade the shit out of them - it's still faster than building an army.

It's small things like this that don't make the game perfect, but it's still probably my favorite in the series, and I've been playing since Civ II and Civ: Call to Power.

Domination with the Japanese is no joke as well...injured units fight at full strength which is key in late stage siege attempts.

XD hehehehe poor joe. :zombie: you can save

just pess strg + s. sounds like a joke. but It's true

i found it out by try and eror

Yeah! Give back the advisors from civilization 2 =)

Everytime I see Hexes + turn based combat I want to play Panzer General. =)

Civilization is a great series but it is time consuming and not everyone can enjoy it. If you don't have the patience for slower paced turn based games like Civ, then you'll probably enjoy games like Heroes of Might and Magic or King's Bounty much more.