The Spiderman Trilogy
Despite what some people have said about Spiderman 3 I still liked it. Sure there were some things that could've improved but overall it was still, in my opinion, the best Spiderman movie out so far. Why? Venom. Harry Osborn as "The New Goblin"? I don't know for sure but was there ever a "New Goblin" in the cartoon series or comics? I don't remeber that guy but I do remember Harry Osborn as The Hobgoblin. Right? I know there was also another guy who was called the Hobgoblin but that's not what we're talking about. Now the whole Venom apparently being destroyed thing. That's a little annoying cuz now how the hell are we going to see Carnage? But you know what I think? Remember when Peter gave a sample of Venom to Dr.Connors to study and the rest he kept? Well what if that sample was kept alive, therefore growing into a normal size venom "copy" and reproducing Carnage...... yes? Maybe. Anyways Spiderman 2 was ok but it just wasn't there for me as much as Spiderman 3. Spiderman 1 was ok back then but it just established the Spiderman character for future movies and for me I always like the sequels to those establishers. For those of you who never seen Spiderman 1-3 go see it! It's a decent trilogy about a nerdy kid who gets transformed into one of the most well known superheros ever. Plus he lives in New York City so it adds to some realism. Lastly you don't have to read any comics to understand anything but it would help to add some background information to understand how major these villians, like Venom, are to the mythology.
What do you guys think? Favorite movie of the series? Comment! I always like to read comments.
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written by Daffy , July 02, 2008
I disagree. Although i liked the Venom part, this movie pretty much missed in my opinion. They could have done SO much more with venom instead of working on making Peter look like a prick. I HATED with a PASSION that part of the movie. It was SO STUPID!!!
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written by Ghostmayhem , July 02, 2008
I actually Really liked Spiderman 3, and I don't really get why people hate it so much!!
Yes, Venom only got about 10 minutes of screentime, which pissed me off.
And the ending was pretty dumb (Sandman apologizes and just leaves??)
I did like the storyline, though. It was well-thought out and executed.
Also, the "New Goblin" in the movie was actually just Harry going crazy and dressing up as the Green Goblin in the comics.
I mean, his father died, could you blame him?
Also, despite the fact that I laugh every time I see it (it's just so stupid it's hilarious!) the Emo walking scene in the movie was ridiculous... I mean, come ON !!
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Yes, Venom only got about 10 minutes of screentime, which pissed me off.
And the ending was pretty dumb (Sandman apologizes and just leaves??)
I did like the storyline, though. It was well-thought out and executed.
Also, the "New Goblin" in the movie was actually just Harry going crazy and dressing up as the Green Goblin in the comics.
I mean, his father died, could you blame him?
Also, despite the fact that I laugh every time I see it (it's just so stupid it's hilarious!) the Emo walking scene in the movie was ridiculous... I mean, come ON !!
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written by InspectorDim , July 02, 2008
I personally thought that Spider-Man 3 was too convoluted. Raimi wanted Sandman to be the main villain, the studio wanted Venom, and the previous two movies had built up to Harry taking his father's place as the Green Goblin. Heck, even having two main villains would be pushing it (unless we wanted a Sinister Six kind of set-up). There is no real reason for having this many villains in the movie. It just made it harder for the villains to get proper face time, which meant relying on cliche or bad ideas to help justify what the villain does in the movie.
Sandman: He's a crook with a heart of gold. Yeah, like this hasn't been done to death already.
New Goblin: I loved Harry, I loved the development of his character, and I was excited for the arrival of the New Goblin. So imagine my dismay when the Goblin finally showed up, and essentially amounted to amnesia, Pete and MJ breaking up, and the intense, brooding, complex villain that had been built up over the course of two movies being completely destroyed because a butler decided that the end of the THIRD MOVIE would be a good time to say that daddy killed himself. This is below even the level of daytime soap operas.
Venom: Raimi didn't like Venom and didn't want to use Venom. The studio insisted that Venom be included. This amounted to awesome-looking movie posters and not much else. Venom would have rocked in his own movie. However, with two other villains to compete with, his involvement became a joke. Instead of a dark, interesting storyline, we got a farce on the level of Superman 3.
And that was the problem that I had with Spider-Man 3. But hey, at least Bruce Campbell was entertaining.
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Sandman: He's a crook with a heart of gold. Yeah, like this hasn't been done to death already.
New Goblin: I loved Harry, I loved the development of his character, and I was excited for the arrival of the New Goblin. So imagine my dismay when the Goblin finally showed up, and essentially amounted to amnesia, Pete and MJ breaking up, and the intense, brooding, complex villain that had been built up over the course of two movies being completely destroyed because a butler decided that the end of the THIRD MOVIE would be a good time to say that daddy killed himself. This is below even the level of daytime soap operas.
Venom: Raimi didn't like Venom and didn't want to use Venom. The studio insisted that Venom be included. This amounted to awesome-looking movie posters and not much else. Venom would have rocked in his own movie. However, with two other villains to compete with, his involvement became a joke. Instead of a dark, interesting storyline, we got a farce on the level of Superman 3.
And that was the problem that I had with Spider-Man 3. But hey, at least Bruce Campbell was entertaining.
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written by Darth Revan , July 02, 2008
lol yeah that was the kind of opinion I was awaiting to read 
I knew that the director didn't like Venom. The reason? I think he said something like he grew up with the older villians (sandman) and he never got into Venom cuz that was a newer character. He also wanted to get into the life of Peter Parker more than Spiderman. That's what he said, something along the lines. The freakin movie is called Spiderman. If someone wanted to make a movie revolving around Peter, than make a freakin movie called Peter Parker: The Peter Parker Chronicles
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I knew that the director didn't like Venom. The reason? I think he said something like he grew up with the older villians (sandman) and he never got into Venom cuz that was a newer character. He also wanted to get into the life of Peter Parker more than Spiderman. That's what he said, something along the lines. The freakin movie is called Spiderman. If someone wanted to make a movie revolving around Peter, than make a freakin movie called Peter Parker: The Peter Parker Chronicles report abuse
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written by That guy with the glasses , July 02, 2008
Believe it or not, I actually kind of liked Spiderman 3 as well. Not to say it didn't have it's totally ridiculous moments, but let's be honest, all the movies had stupid moments. Remember the laughably silly Green Goblin outfit or the lame lines from the first one: "Is that an angel I see before me?" "You're the one who's out Gobby, out of your MIND!" Or how about the whispering octopus arms in the second one? Pretty goofy.
For me, Spiderman 3 got me the most involved because I actually cared about the characters. I actually felt something for not just Peter, but Harry, Mary Jane, and even the Sandman. The problems that Peter and MJ have are real identifiable problems, and we see another sacrifice that has to be made when devoting yourself to the life that Peter chose. When I first saw it, people gasped three times in the theater; when Peter almost loses the ring, when MJ kisses Harry, and Peter punches MJ. Any movie that makes the audience gasp three times is doing something right.
Where I lose it is near the end. Everything seems like it's building up to something big, but not only is there just too much going on, it ultimately goes nowhere. In fact, it almost takes a step backwards. I don't feel like anybody gained any knowledge or learned any lessons, if anything, Peter goes back to square one and doesn't really evolve as a character. That bothered me, but then again i never read Spiderman growing up, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
I guess if people don't like the movie I can understand, but why do so many people think the other two are great masterpieces? They have just as many idiotic and laughable scenes in them. I dunno. I guess I wrote a lot here, I just always thought this film got kind of a bum rap while the others got way too much praise. But what can ya do? Later.
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For me, Spiderman 3 got me the most involved because I actually cared about the characters. I actually felt something for not just Peter, but Harry, Mary Jane, and even the Sandman. The problems that Peter and MJ have are real identifiable problems, and we see another sacrifice that has to be made when devoting yourself to the life that Peter chose. When I first saw it, people gasped three times in the theater; when Peter almost loses the ring, when MJ kisses Harry, and Peter punches MJ. Any movie that makes the audience gasp three times is doing something right.
Where I lose it is near the end. Everything seems like it's building up to something big, but not only is there just too much going on, it ultimately goes nowhere. In fact, it almost takes a step backwards. I don't feel like anybody gained any knowledge or learned any lessons, if anything, Peter goes back to square one and doesn't really evolve as a character. That bothered me, but then again i never read Spiderman growing up, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
I guess if people don't like the movie I can understand, but why do so many people think the other two are great masterpieces? They have just as many idiotic and laughable scenes in them. I dunno. I guess I wrote a lot here, I just always thought this film got kind of a bum rap while the others got way too much praise. But what can ya do? Later.
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written by Consequences , July 02, 2008
I hate how every villain in them is ALWAYS made out to be some tragic character who's really good, deep down. I can see that working, for Dr Octopus, and even the Green Goblin, but 75% of them fitting that mold was annoying. At least Venom wanted to make him suffer out of pure hatred (but I hated how they fudged the symbiote's origin, although I can see why it had to happen that way). ALSO--I hated how they deviated from Venom's origin--in the comics, Brock went to the church to ask forgiveness because he was going to kill himself; in the movie, he goes to ask Jesus to kill Peter. WTF!? I'd think that the liberal ninny who makes villains into good guys deep down would've eaten up the original way it happened.
But, overall, I absolutely love the series.
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But, overall, I absolutely love the series.
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written by Caliban Don Flamingo , July 02, 2008
I liked Spidey 3 as well. So did my sister, so did my mom. I never liked Venom in the comics. He was a totally overhyped character who happenend to have a cool design. They should've gone with the original idea of the Vulture who is frankly a much cooler villain. Still I liked the movie for what it was and I think a lot of people were waiting to pounce on the billion dollar franchise. It was fun and harmless and the dancing sequence made me laugh as intended so yeah...
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written by storage and disposal , July 02, 2008
All three had enough cheese in it and I hated the interpretation of a typical New York crowd. I think I said to myself or out loud in every movie, "That would never happen!"
But yeah, I still enjoyed it. It tied up loose ends in a satisfactory way and it could have been worse. It could have been a hell of a lot better, too.
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But yeah, I still enjoyed it. It tied up loose ends in a satisfactory way and it could have been worse. It could have been a hell of a lot better, too.
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written by Darth Revan , July 02, 2008
i know what you mean disposal, let me think......... like near the end of 3 when Spiderman is battling those guys(uh i don't really remember when exactly but..) then those little kids say, "Awesome! Wicked cool!", WHO THE F*CK says that? lol there are some other annoying lines but i can't remember right now. Also with the whole Vulture idea as a villian. I could see it but Vulture was never a real rival, or nemesis of Spiderman was he? Sure he was a villian but more of a comical kind of villian like maybe Rhino or Mysterio. Those guys weren't too serious. Vulture is ok though but what I really want to see now is The Black Cat 
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written by InspectorDim , July 02, 2008
Darth Revan: I think the Black Cat would be a nice addition to the series, just as long as she's not given her own movie line. I don't think many of us have recovered from Catwoman just yet.
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written by AlbertWikoWonkavitz , July 02, 2008
I must be the only kid of my generation who thinks Venom is kind of stupid for the most part (Carnage is even worse). On the other hand, a movie with just Sandman would've been pretty interesting. THEN they can do a Hobgoblin/New Goblin/whatever or Venom movie next,then other villains.
Then again, I might be pretty much alone on this, but I'd like to see movie with Mysterio. He's certainly more interesting to me than Venom.
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Then again, I might be pretty much alone on this, but I'd like to see movie with Mysterio. He's certainly more interesting to me than Venom.
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written by Caliban Don Flamingo , July 02, 2008
I agree Venom has always sucked. The thing that pisses me off about him and Carnage is that before they had even been in two comics Marvel was promoting them as the "greatest villains" Spider-Man has ever faced. When I was a kid and they first came out I thought they were cool as hell on account of the admittedly awesome character designs but there are much better villains out there for Spidey. (Like the Vulture!!!)
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written by saiconjr , July 02, 2008
The reason WHY Venom and Carnage are Spiderman's worst villains ever aren't because of what they DO, it's because of what they can do. Venom (and through the spawning, Carnage) have the dirtiest dirst and secretest secrets of Peter Parker, aka Spiderman. Add to that the fact that Parker could never see them coming up to him with his spider-sense unless they came right at him and that their suits could change to be whatever (in comics, screw the movies) - not to mention that they were stronger in physical and webbing, plus crazy as well - Venom and Carnage could do literally the most damage to Peter Parker's life.
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written by Darth Revan , July 03, 2008
I'm very superstitious.....so when i saw i had 13 comments, i awaited patiently for 1 more person to comment, but it didn't happen 
so i'm just posting this comment to make it 14 
spam? yeah i agree it kinda is. BUT i did like all your comments and agree with and see your point of views. thx. i'm thinking of another blog to make but i can't get any....... oh wait....litteraly while typing this i just thought of a good idea. 
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so i'm just posting this comment to make it 14 spam? yeah i agree it kinda is. BUT i did like all your comments and agree with and see your point of views. thx. i'm thinking of another blog to make but i can't get any....... oh wait....litteraly while typing this i just thought of a good idea. report abuse
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